Vee
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I don't think it's anything so serious. I'm not sure -
Was this posted? I couldn't find it.
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I'm pretty into them myself, honestly. I'm about that pairing. I was also pleased to hear the showrunners say they have no intention of recasting Bran. I didn't expect them to, but it was a brief thought since they have recasted all the more tertiary child characters (Tommen, Myrcella). I wonder if they'll be able to get the kid playing Rickon back, as he's doing a lot of movies and is in that ridiculously fun-looking earthquake movie with The Rock this summer.
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Same here.
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I don't care if you love it or hate it. I care about how you talk to people who do like it or love it. And I care about the same things you do in terms of drama. I just don't agree with you. You call it hive mind mentality when you're the odd man out, I call it having a minority opinion. And that's okay - I don't mind being the minority when I am. And I don't have to throw fits when people disagree with me, and call them all fools for not getting it. (Though sometimes I call them fools for entirely different, far pettier reasons.)
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You can say whatever you like, but when you make those kind of sweeping generalizations you're making it impossible for me and apparently a fair number of other people to take you seriously.
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I don't devalue the poster's opinion because it's negative. I devalue it because I've reading it for several seasons full of name-calling and insults for the show personnel and for anyone who does like the show. Case in point:
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I remember some backlash from the start. Like, out of the gate, with the first screeners just like this week, for Season 4 and several outlets, it was "is GOT struggling? Is it out of control? Let's all make the hot take!" It initially had nothing to do with the Cersei/Jaime scene, then that became a convenient touchstone because of the muddled way it was handled. It was a hot take that eventually became informed by something else. I don't think it matched the reality with the overall season, or the reception of the audience, and eventually the people trying to push that narrative understood that. I don't think Season 5 is innately good if it tries to be divergent, but I also don't really care if it is. (I also doubt it will diverge as much as people think.) I haven't read the source material and I only go by the show which I find more than satisfactory. They were running out of road to work with Martin's text, they've consulted with him heavily on future planned events, and they had to go forward and everyone involved knew that, and I think they have an incredibly talented cast and crew to do it. I also think it finally makes a firm dividing line - viewers could make it about the books or not in the past, but now it just has to be about the show. I think that's liberating for people whether they like the show or hate it. It doesn't make much of a difference for me since I never bothered with the distinction, but I know it makes some people feel freed up. There's quite a few book fans I know who are like, "thank God they're moving on, the latest two are terrible." I personally don't turn on an author that fast usually and I very much doubt they're as bad as people claim, but I also know the show has to go forward regardless. So I'm open to it. As for Ramsay, we've been over this before but no, I don't think the show sees him as a sex symbol and we will have to disagree.
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I do think it's a pretty good era for TV at the moment, even though I never watched, say, Breaking Bad or Mad Men - I'm sure I will watch both someday. But I think we've got more good TV now than I can remember in a long time. I think there's always going to be critics with egos, but they don't have anything to do with how I view a show (okay, except Mad Men, I'm just tired of hearing about it). As for GOT there was already a medium-sized backlash last year, which I found to be a pretty good season. If the reaction is more unanimous this time, I frankly think it has more to do with last year's harshest critics getting back to judging GOT on its actual merits, as opposed to some of them needing to make a bold statement about a hit show in its fourth year, which too many online critics do, in an attempt to drive hits or burnish their personal brands. They've moved on to some other show to assault - unfortunately, some perennial favorites like TWD rarely get respect. But I don't put that on GOT. Like it, don't like it, I don't care, but don't tell me I'm anti-intellectual if I do, Skin. I'm open to critique, I'm just not open to critique where I've listened to someone spend most of this thread calling the author, the showrunners and every fan of the show names, and suggesting we're all stupid and ignorant if we like it. And you wouldn't be either. I don't engage with those kind of histrionics and I never will. I hope we're past them.
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There's also a vast gulf of difference between "yes manning" something and genuinely appreciating a program with one's own viewpoint which is equally valid and intelligent. As opposed to calling the showrunners and the original author names and personally insulting them just because you don't like the TV show.
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Except you, of course! See you Sunday.
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Will McCrabb, the very random source (and Diane Keaton's cousin) who first tipped people off about some of the alleged budget/deal issues with Lynch and Showtime weeks ago on social media, has now followed up with some positive sounding tweets about the situation today. As well as this alleged quote: Real or not, things are sounding better overall from the Lynch camp.
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The AV Club, Grantland, Alan Sepinwall and The Atlantic on Season 5.
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Vulture basically recaps what we know at the moment. Sherilyn Fenn made mention last night of Lynch also wanting enough time to shoot the show, likely on location, without having to "rushrushrush". This makes sense. With Lynch, so much of his magic happens on-set, in the moment, when he comes up with something. It's inspiration and improvisation - like the finale, which was largely made up on the set; or the casting of Fenn and Amick as Audrey and Shelly in very different roles than originally intended, as informed by the actresses; like Sheryl Lee, who he decided needed a bigger role in the show than just the girl on the beach; like Frank Silva the set dresser, who he impulsively decided would be (as he told Phoebe Augustine, who played Ronette, while they filmed her walk across the bridge in the pilot) "the bad guy, but don't tell anybody."
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It seems as though things may be finally coming to a happy end - various past sources on Twitter are hinting at good news, Mädchen Amick is saying she is pleased to be hearing "positive signs for a deal". I'm sure everyone wants to close the week and the Friday news dump with the deal, so hopefully we'll get it by then.
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The One-Armed Man has an important delivery for the Sheriff's Department. Meanwhile, Shelly and Dale say hello to the Allied Forces in the Gulf War while Bobby sulks in the background. Finally, Harry has money on the Seahawks for an evening football broadcast. These are also all on the Blu-Ray set, which is where I found them. It's worth mentioning that it sounds a lot like David Lynch shooting both the Gulf War spot and the "Wizard of Oz" one earlier in the thread, advertising the return to their old timeslot. Lynch calls Kyle MacLachlan "Kale".
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It seems as though (according to Fenn) no one was officially locked down except Kyle, so I'm guessing these budgetary conflicts have been going on longer than we thought. I believe Lynch had intended to bring back Horse and most of the others in some form or another. Sherilyn Fenn is still answering questions, though, and confirmed her character was largely created only after Lynch met her; Audrey was either a much smaller role initially or not there at all (the same holds for Mädchen Amick and Shelly, which was a very different part before she was cast). She was also asked about the potential Audrey spinoff which later became Mulholland Drive:
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Whoa! Sherilyn Fenn (who avoids most social media) has broken her silence and is doing a Q&A on the cast's new #savetwinpeaks Facebook page. Among her answers so far: The only castmember currently locked into a contract is Kyle MacLachlan, which indicates why he's had to be silent on this issue. David Lynch is not done-done, but is exhausted with trying to negotiate and "wants to do it right"
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Ray Wise chimes in. Kyle MacLachlan has also "liked" the cast's video on Facebook (which has since exploded across the Net), but he likely can't do more as he may be one of the only castmembers currently under contract. His people have given "no comment" to any question from the press about his continuing with the project were it to go on without Lynch. I don't think he would do it, but I also don't think Showtime would, and they have given no indication of doing so. I assume he stands in solidarity with Lynch. Everyone from James Roday to Clive Barker to Lars von Trier have also chimed in.
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Showtime is desperate to make this happen. They have publicly put themselves on the line in every way and they would be beyond humiliated if they let it slip through their fingers. They're humiliated already, really. This isn't like other campaigns or other shows, this is something very different and much bigger. It will be either one thing or not at all, IMO.
