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I also think it's a very important question what the red base looks like in two to four years without Trump on the ballot. AFAIC a lot of those surprise voters in the last four years are fickle, ignorant and just looking to see if a Black dude or a woman is daring to tell them what to do. We all wanted that here. But this is what we have to live with, because no matter what could've happened last night this would still be the country that did this to people of color over the last decade. And it's still better than where we've been. He's having a real one:

This one's for you, @DRW50

It's so fùcking tiresome. Of course, I'm not thrilled about the numbers or possibly not taking the Senate, but a win is a win. When Bush won by tiny margins or lost the Senate he still strutted around like Long Dong Silver calling himself a huge victor and the media believed it. That's how Dems have to learn to operate. Stop soul-searching, handwringing and weeping and do the work. This isn't news to most of us, but I've had to say it more than once over the last 12 hours: America has always had this terrible side to it. It rose to the fore when it elected a Black man. For a lot of white people that caused a massive nervous breakdown; Trump was the racist id comfort food for so many of them, or for people just seeking the comfort of traditional masculine/heterosexual/etc. norms. What we do now is dust ourselves off and push forward. Without Trump in the spotlight, that enabled aspect of the culture over the last four years will begin to wilt IMO, lacking a charismatic figurehead and in the face of inevitable cultural future progress. But it's still going to be a long rehabilitation and a long reckoning. America is a multi-century project. And it would've been even if this wasn't close. We weren't going to sweep away the shadow side of America overnight or in one cycle. We never have. But if we cut off the head of this disgusting fúcking filth, we have come that much closer to beginning to drag the worst of this country back towards something more sane. And tired or not, that is what we are going to have to do and what we can do. Allegedly:

LOL:

From the mouths of scum:

A reporting error has led AZ to drop back to 86% reporting. I think Biden will still take it though. Meanwhile:

The difference is, the GOP face a challenging map in 2022. And McConnell has no soul, but he is a reptile who goes where he senses victory and avoids where he senses danger. If Biden and the Dems properly use the bully pulpit they can push for the vote on stimulus or act by EO, just as Trump has done. We're going to have go hard, and we can.

Not having Trump in office would still be a major plus, and will change things within that party bit by bit. McConnell and Graham will go where they think survival is. It won't be a huge change in the GOP base, no, but it will make the Republicans in office operate somewhat differently by not cowering from the demagogue at the top of the ticket tweeting at them nonstop. Republicans don't weep and rend their garments when they take the WH but not the Senate. They get on with it however they can. That's what we have to do now. I think there will be another stimulus, for example, with Trump no longer in the mix and more pressure on the Senate from above. But it's going to all be a series of fights.

For those of you looking to decode the below, the answer is: "Big for us"

I believe we're up or ahead in PA, MI, WI, etc. I think we'll take it. But woof let's never do this again.

They're not going to take the House.

Trump is about to speak. The networks are warning he will lie and try to claim victory and has no standing to do so. I won't be watching; I'm taking a break to play Fall Guys while watching the results all night. Hang in there. Reid on MSNBC saying Dems in key states "remarkably calm," expecting these results. This was the plan, Wallace says. I know some people are heartbroken about not wiping him out as a statement, and possibly not taking the Senate, but we've always had two steps forward, two steps back (or in last cycle's case, one hundred steps back). It's not what I want - I'm still holding out hope for a thin Senate majority - but if we take it it will do for starting to repair the horrible trauma and damage to the country. And if we don't, well, we're alive.

I wanted a landslide too. But doomposting just bc we don't get one or get the entire nation blinking sleep dust out of their eyes and saying 'what happened? how could we vote for him?' is just not fair or realistic. They're never going to do that. Their mentalities are not wired to accept that. This is an ongoing problem we were dealing with even before Trump, and it would always be here long after. This is a generation project. Our country has made a lot of horrible mistakes and done a lot of terrible things, but we've also done good. We've crawled out of dark places step by step before, and if we win here this will be no different. Even if we don't, there will be a lot of people still out there fighting.

NV just turned blue.

LMAOOOO

RI for Biden.

MSNBC finally calling TX and Montana for Trump, neither a surprise.