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@DRW50 will be intrigued to learn that according to the latest DWM, a character from 2005 will return for the Christmas special this year. My bet: Harriet Jones (Penelope Wilton), a fan favorite who was poorly served by RTD in The Christmas Invasion but redeemed and seemingly killed in the Series 4 finale. RTD later seemed to respond to fan love for the character by penning this poem, which retconned her fate.

I suspected the same thing, but I can't be sure. It's the hair and lighting.

Sooner or later, Fox is going to be held even more liable for something far worse than the Dominion lawsuit scandal.

Nice:

Good.

I don't hold out a lot of faith in the quality of the show bc of how rocky a road Discovery has been as opposed to SNW and Terry Matalas' Picard Season 3, and the showrunner's past credits do not fill me with confidence. But I do like Tilly and Tawny Newsome so I'll give it a chance as it's Trek. I'm much more invested in SNW and presumably a soon-to-be-greenlit Picard spinoff with Seven, Jack, Sidney LaForge, etc.

My sentiments exactly.

@AdelaideCate007 will be surprised as I am that they are doing a new DSC-era show after all:

I'm glad they announced a new live-action show, but I hope this doesn't preclude the Titan/Picard spinoff show everyone wants:

@Darn has said Terry cannot react to a page convincingly and bless her, it is true lol. I am glad the character is there but she does not need major story. Britt should not have been left in charge of a Chia Pet after the shít she and her mother pulled.

That's why I've always been against using her as a lifer like her screen mother, because she's so cloying and cutesy. She was a bit less so this time, but we barely saw her. Unless she can show real chops I'd still recast. Robyn Richards wasn't as green. I think she could've worked out, but people are forgetting that Kirsten was intensely unpopular in the role for her first disastrous year or so. She had bad and deeply unsympathetic stories. It was moving her into a comic role and the Spinelli pairing that saved her, IMO.

Tiffany wasn't onscreen - she did a voice cameo over the phone due to Sharon Wyatt's illness, I believe. I think any Lucas but Ryan Carnes is a nonentity. He did great, was popular with the audience and left very abruptly and unexpectedly.

The show has also put out a series of decent memorial episodes for people. The John Reilly one was a bit silly but mostly very heartfelt, and had a beautiful use of his daughter. This one was even better. Leslie Charleson being left to a voice cameo - I'm so glad she did it, but the last time this happened that I can recall it was because either Sharon Wyatt's illness or other circumstances had apparently left her unable to appear onscreen for whatever reason, and so Tiffany was used by voice over the phone instead at John Reilly/Sean Donely's memorial. Leslie supposedly had a fall or accident around this time last year and was expected back soon. Now this. I don't want to worry about her, but I do. I am glad they wove her in any way they could. And while I do wish they'd managed to get Kimberly, and Kent Masters King and Minae Noji as Lainey Winters and Kelly Lee, having Emma appear in the Drakes' stead was decent enough. Brooklyn Rae Silzer has improved. Another thing the show has gotten better at is realizing where the real meat and weight of audience investment is. I may not love every story she has and find her pairing with Kevin milquetoast, but Mayor Laura is extremely central to the show and canvas these days. She's the heart. The same goes for Elizabeth; they throw her at every loser under the sun, from serial killer to Michael Easton, in part because they know and have increasingly valued just how important she is to the audience. So Elizabeth becomes the linchpin and centerpiece of this episode and her catharsis is the audience's catharsis. They know her value to the show and have slowly begun acknowledging it. Now if she could just get more A-story for her own sake, and not for Easton or Howarth's continued employment. I admittedly found Epiphany annoying as hell a lot of the time - I never understood her forced admiration for the mob scene considering Sonny and Jason got her son stuffed in a trunk and killed, and I didn't like that soppy song they had her sing to Sabrina and Emma at the 2013 Ball which repeated at the end of this episode. But it was tradition so they used it and that's fine, and Sonya Eddy was a lovely woman who was absolutely devoted to the show so I was sad for her and for the cast and the show. You could see Drew Cheetwood (never much of an actor) and Carolyn Hennesy were barely holding it together, even in their earliest scenes. It was all very touching, and it was well done.

Sorry, misread.

Lucy very poignantly referenced both Amy and Jessie in the first returning Nurses Ball in 2013. They unveiled gigantic pictures of them onstage as she honored them. Amy is now up on the memorial wall shown in this episode with Epiphany and all the rest. It's often shown any time a castmember dies. Audrey was the sister of Nurse Lucille March, the show's original head nurse.

I forgot that happened. Still bonkers.

I think Brooke Newton was a potential stealth hit as Colby on AMC 2.0. She started out as a total vixen but revealed layers near the end of the run with Cassandra and Opal and caught on with the audience. I think she would've been big.

Oh lord, I hated Natalie Hall. I'll never forget the clip they played of her caterwauling on The Soup(?).

Like much of the recent cast, Chloe has left and returned to the show approximately fifteen times. I'll believe she's gone when she's gone two years.

I'm not sure I would classify Gloria and Dimitri as a hit. I know Teresa Blake had her fans (@DRW50 being one of them) and I didn't dislike Gloria, but I don't think Alec, Adam, etc. really worked with her. I kind of liked her and Tad back in the day but I was under the impression I was among the few.

Have you watched this show? Because we don't generally do picture pages.