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That episode comes from archive.org I believe it's March or April 1986.

So Jill essentially was gaslighting Kay before Suzanne Lynch. The timeline is confusing. Kay would have already had to have lost it for her to allow Jill to move in.

And it wasn't that the focus group didn't like her, it was that no one mentioned in her as part of a couple they want to get together - because she was happily married! Like they can't even see a character as something other than part of a hot pairing. Ugh. I really loved when Tina was talking about a woman who didn't cry over her own breast cancer but did over Lillian's, and Ellen said the shows were that kind of catharsis for so many women who didn't let themselves stop and feel for themselves. She GETS what the shows meant to so many people.

I would watch a show with these ladies today... they all look great and they took their work so seriously.

Agreed, it was cheesy but I was completely engrossed by it. Stayed up way too late watching. Especially with these videos being cut in a way that's not full episodes, it's like a neverending story and really hard to know when to stop. I was thinking the same. Reading recaps too and he's just disgusting lol. He sleeps with Diane the morning of his wedding, carries on with both Diane and Gina while married (and gets really rapey with Jill, creeping on her in the shower once, and taking her upstairs for sex at Gina's when she's drunk), then Patty has a miscarriage after she walks in on him and Diane. In the hospital, he blows up at Patty for not telling him she was pregnant, knowing he was just banging Diane, and then later bothers Patty for sex while she's still cramping. Then promises Patty they'll try for another baby and makes an appointment for a vasectomy the same day. Not to mention trying to sell the company out from under his father, continuing to do so after John has a heart attack. He's a complete sleaze and it's so entertaining. It's like today characters either have to be paragons on virtue with weird justifications made up for everything or they need to be cartoon villains.

I like her too, even better than Stern, and I wasn't a fan of AE as Tawny and never watched her on OLTL. I don't think Allison is a Vanessa replacement. The overbearing mother-in-law is a pretty standard character and Allison is more comic relief. Vanessa's hate was irrational and dark; I can't see her doing something like putting up a life-sized cardboard cutout of Lorie. She'd just silently plot and then get real revenge. Vanessa reminds me more of Kay in her darker hours. I found the climax to the Max/Eve storyline a little cheesy and not at all what I expected. It was OK, but another reminder that even under Bill Bell Y&R did some weird plot-driven stuff sometimes. It's something to see that Patty shot Jack at the same time all that was going on (and from the recaps, the charges against Tony were also dropped in court at this time in dramatic fashion)... a far cry from the idea that Y&R was slow moving and boring.

Only speculation but if that person is using free trials it makes sense to wait, then do a two week trial and capture all of the old episodes from the past weeks. Hoping that's the case.

I added four episodes to 2002 in the vault from tapes I got from @Y&R fan of oldies It includes 5/10/02 (the day before the classic episode recently reaired, where Stephanie discovers Brooke kissing Deacon), 5/13/02 (the original broadcast - it's about a minute longer and I'm not sure if that's just credits or if they cut something), 5/31/02, and 11/27/02.

Just watched Dina's reveal as "Madame Mergeron"... other than the contrivance of Jack and Ashley not recognizing her under that veil, that was great! This definitely should have been included as one of the classic episodes for Abbot week, especially since it's interspersed with Victor's funeral, definitely a classic, and we're so lucky to have gotten to see it anyway! It's too bad we jump from sick Victor to his funeral, skipping his "death" and the wake where Nikki tries to open the coffin. Man, EB was good playing a man listening into his own funeral, he really looked like he wanted to jump out and strangle Eve, and embrace Nikki... great storyline so far. But what was that Douglas said about he and Victor serving in a war together? Victor doing military service has never been mentioned before...

Unrelated but I always meant to ask if someone knows what was the "Y&R special" referenced at the beginning of that clip? Was it a primetime special? I wonder why they had a special featuring stars who are no longer with the series? Some kind of an attempt to keep the viewers who were leaving because of all the new characters? It's so nice getting to see stuff from this era in very good quality now thanks to the angel uploading on the vault. 😍

I just uploaded the following to the vault. They are all (except 5/30) from @Y&R fan of oldies 1/3/1992 3/20/97 9/10/98 1/31/01 5/10/02 5/13/02 5/30/02 (Clip) 5/31/02 Here's May 31, 2002 on YouTube

Not up to Dina's entrance yet, but loving seeing little moments like the "Gina's" sign lighting up for the first time. And I had no idea Rick Daros originally got involved with Nikki via Allison Bancroft! This is fascinating stuff. And knowing Nikki ends up with Tony Di Salvo, I'm interested in seeing how the story gets there! This stuff still feels relevant to today... dirty cops, Nikki's husband being opposed to her sex work, Kevin losing a contract over things his wife said, Nikki getting filmed without her consent (per the recaps)... it's SO MUCH MORE INTERESTING than the current show.

What a witch!

I'm pretty sure they were cut off when recorded. If they were edited out with a program the cuts would be clean. They have the little fuzz in between that looks like it was recorded to VHS that way. It's shame, but beggars can't be choosers. I counted about 20 hours of material from 1982 which is amazing.

This story had its moments as part of maturing Paul's character and turning him into a hero. I can say that I like the moments we've seen, especially the fight scene which was was very well choreographed, and the scene where Paul slips the rosary into Mary's hands at the hospital. There's also some stuff in the recaps that sounds good, like Carl having to humble himself to take John's offer to do security at Jabot and Jack telling him he's just the help! On the other hand, I can see this storyline getting boring day to day. I can hardly keep track of all the characters in the recaps and it's all "Paul is about to make progress on the case, but something happens, and Paul is on the verge of being killed! But then he's fine, and about to make a big break in the case..." The story kind of drags in the full episodes I've seen, so I don't mind getting this digest version of it in the clips. A lot of umbrellas pop off in this story like Patty fighting with Jack about her wanting to have a child and moving out of the Abbot house, Amy Lewis coming to town when her father gets shot, and even Angela Laurence gets involved in this sphere with the attempted rape, though it doesn't seem to have gone anywhere. What I think differentiates this from the other soaps is there's a lot of psychology/emotion played in the scenes. There was this one scene I read about where Danny takes Patty to Paul's seedy motel room, she begs him to come home, he is cold towards her and she's crying, and then he says "don't come back here, it's too dangerous" which makes Patty realize that he does still care, and she embraces him, and it takes everything for him not to show his emotions in the moment and tell him he loves her. That's classic Y&R, I can just picture it. Being that Nikki had an abusive alcoholic father, I feel that this fits her character very well.

Katherine played it so wrong attacking Jill and making Jill sympathetic lol. Would have been smarter to let Jill prance around as people slowly find out she had slept with Phillip and had his child, and then they would all think poor Kay having to endure that. But Kay couldn't help herself!

Does anyone know who the actresses were playing Katherine's friends at her December 1982 Christmas party in the vault?

Kevin is adorable and a good singer too. Interesting that they seemed to have chem tested him with Ashley. And there was Allison's line about John Abbot having "two marriageable daughters." I thought they should have kept him around. I really love the whole Bancroft family storyline.

The uploads are up to December 1982! I hope that @FrenchFan has the summaries for the rest of the year. I really enjoy reading them. I found some others they posted years ago but they're not as detailed. I love the bits of dialogue. Makes me feel like I watched it, except I picture Brenda Dickson instead of Deborah Adair. These are the other summaries from 1982

If ever they were to bring closure to the Williams parents they would have done it during the Patty storyline or when Paul killed Ricky. Another missed opportunity.

Really? It's so interesting when the soap stars have "real" jobs on the side like Kate Linder being a flight attendant and Beth Ehlers working for the state of New Jersey (although not while she was acting). I wonder what he did there and if people recognized him. It would have been a fairly new agency at the time. I haven't seen a lot from that era but I assume Carl's job made it easy for the writers to just say he was away on an assignment or undercover, and then, I guess they just eventually stopped bothering to mention him at all, same as they did when Carolyn Cromwell got sick and they didn't even give Mary an onscreen funeral or anything.

I haven't seen anyone else bring this up, but if Bruce Henderson is Liz Foster's brother, that makes her maiden name Liz Henderson. That's the same name given as Beth Logan's maiden name on B&B. When Beth is in the hospital for breast cancer, Stephanie sees that she has a Henderson family Bible and she is "Liz Henderson" from college. There are already so many similarities between the Logans and the Fosters. I wonder if Bill Bell knew a woman named Liz Henderson who was abandoned by her spouse? Since Bruce turns out to be Lorie's father, this also makes Lorie a cousin of Greg, Snapper, and Jill (before the Jill adoption retcon), which I don't believe has ever been addressed on the show.

Sometimes I wonder why they didn't just cancel the show after losing so many actors and just create a spin-off with selected characters like Lorie, Kay, Jill, etc. That would have given them a fresh start while leaving things open for original cast members from the core families to pop in.

It was funny how we skipped from Patty whining that Jack wouldn't marry her to Mary planning the wedding in the church. And we missed Traci and Ashley's very first appearances. Still, these are such a treasure. I'm glad this person taped pretty much all of Nikki/Victor and Katherine's storylines. That's what I most wanted to see. As much as I'd want to see even earlier than this, I feel like this is the seminal version of Y&R... this is really where it becomes the show that we still watch today. It's really exciting to finally see good solid chunks from this era. It's so artfully done.

Cool, I have three May 2002 videos coming up that I need to edit to complement this. I looked through all the 2004 I had and didn't see those, but I did upload today and yesterday's classics to the vault.