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OOOOooooooooooo...this is sOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better. I liked the first one and liked I said before (and agree with @Cat), it gives Vancouver vibes. The trailer so reminds me of the Season 1 trailer. Now...who is the Christina? lol. Jen looks like she will be THAT chick. I love Mary's 'Don't Get Ghetto.' And some of guys were not ugly. It appears to be organic and if they were friends beforehand, I really think it has to the potential to be juicy fun. And you all are making me curious. Okay...and so is Twitter. So let me ask... I know I've mentioned that I'm curious enough to watch OC to see how they deal with Co-Vid in general, Shannon's journey with it, and then a season without Tamra/Vicki because like a few of the other shows this year...they are so going to be signs of their time since they either happened pre, during, post-lockdown Co-Vid (even SOUTHERN CHARM will be dealing with it...and white prelivege...and diversity after a boring last season that makes me want to look in), but... ...is anyone else going to be watching OC this season? It has been such a looong time. I remember Shannon targeting Vicki. Lydia just happened to see right through her...which I liked, but did Shannon keep going in on her? I agree...like I said above...I actually want to see how Shannon deals with Co-Vid and also want to see her without Tam or Vick. #preach Re: Melbourne

Howso? If you don't mind me asking. What do you see? Yeah as far as OC Housewives heading for a fall, I would think it is Kelly's turn since she's been nothing but nasty since CoVid started. But they do like their Brandi of the OC. Who DOESN'T like MELBOURNE?

Sometimes especially in these times it is best to stay informed.

Yeah. Young. Beautiful. Growing into a brain. Fun. Half the price. No brainer on Porsha vs Nene. I'll give you that. AND Porsha is STILL respectful of who came before.

And it was a good one with foreboding.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! I CAN'T!!! NOT INSIDE EDITION...

How reliable is DListed? I had heard that but I took that with the grain of salt I took the Kris Jenner and Kathy news so far. I am more focused on the fact they should start filming again soon and Ex Soap Star, Erika, and Kyle are back. Garcelle and Dorit, watch your back. As for Nene...well...should be interesting on Friday when she is interviewed on Tamron Hall. Well, you know my opinion on that so nice to see I am not alone. But...who's next? I mean since Bravo is only protecting their problematic favorites (it's already been leaked for example that the reason (s) for poor Hannah's firing on BELOW DECK MED are already filming for next season...so another show I won't be watching next season since that was just as foul as any recent HW exit...especially since the show is a S*itshow now), one does wonder. And yes...he does not like Kenya.

Exactly!!! And while most people are not giving her a pass...at least not completely...if they do, it will be because of what I put in BOLD. And it should be a discussion to have...which the girls are going to do next week. If one can't wait, there are some clips already posted if you look around. In fact, they are better for it because they are going to discuss it. I never watched Jersey regularly, but have they really discuss their fights and how they look and how they felt and how it keys into the Jersey stereotype? My only big exposure was later-Danielle these past few seasons and well it was more about gangup than what I just said. Meanwhile Ex Soap Star at least acknowledge her wrong in Amsterdam if I remembered correctly from BH Season 5...then...gone. I know a rare thing for that show. I agree. re: discussion of racial/gender implications. Remember...this was supposed to have dropped back in May. Now? It's even more timely due to what is going on in the world. Quite compelling with this cast that has at times been about manners, but at times have done the most to stay keeping it real. Ha! WWHL WITH BETTER RATINGS.

THIS. Also THIS. I have never been very big on politics outside of civics and history class and even I saw the significance of voting in 2016. And this year has been the MOST that I've EVER been listening to and watching politics and definitely the MOST I've been in this thread as I am sure all of you and my haters can testify to. But to be honest, I trust the information that all of you have posted in here more than I trust any of the news in my area (Cali) PERIOD. You all have great minds and are truly informed in a way that I wished that I had kept up given I used to love civics. That's how bad this year has been here and how worried, scared, and frustrated that I've become. Even when I'm behind on this thread (I am actually ten pages...okay 12 now...back reading). But I want to be informed. I want to have the information so I can make informed decisions when it is time for me to vote. I trust you all to have it. And I really need that lunatic out of office for sure. This info gives me some hope. But this literally is a matter of life and death.

I just want to take this and marry it. ESPECIALLY the BOLD. Well, Candiace will more than likely be pressuring Karen in the coming weeks (even her tone in next week's preview when she is on the phone with Karen when she said she had already talked to the girls was ICY) and she is probably mad at the response she got since Karen is a ride-or-die for Monique and the mother Candiace wished she had. Yeah, we are same page on Robyn. I sooo was saying 'shut up.' As for the bold... RHOA And Oooooo...speaking of NayNay, she is already booked on Tamron Hall for Friday!!!!!!!!!! So RHOP starts the week and RHOA is finishing...

Woof!!

Well...the IRS always get you...

POTOMAC Well since I'm already up...LOL!!! A lot to unpack. @NothinButAttitude and @chrisml already touched on this. And I have to give the girls this...because it also applies to black men...black women do get held to a higher standard. No lies there. Moreso if they are educated black women. So much so that people forget...they are also human. With that in mind, they have to watch what they do sometimes. That's ironic really. Given that Karen has been hinting to pay close attention to the fight. One site mentioned that there's a thread going on here that also pops out on the cast trip. And given all the Twitter detectives and Karen's general attitude to Gizelle this year is actually harsher with NONE of the playfulness it tends to have lately...I see the puzzle Karen appears to be laying pieces down for. Given how great this show already is, it looks like someone is about to be unmasked. While it was not obvious what she did at the time, it is obvious WHO it is now and things are about to be good if Karen's clues are correct and I guessed right. For me...it was Monique's talk to Chris that clued me in and she has continued to mention how old school (and I'm old school, too) and no one should be up in your space. That includes NOT TOUCHING. But that fight happened so fast and tempers were so high, I don't think Monique noticed either. At the time. And she has also said several times that her accounts is not all there. That is key. And understandable. She saw red. Those are my hints, I want to see the rest of the season play out to see if I guessed it right. And will own being wrong if I don't. For now...the episode...I so liked it. I saw on Twitter that people thought it was off post-fight. I disagree. Yes, the first 15 minutes was insane, but even when the show went back to its 'normal programming,' there was this undercurrent. This tension. They gave enough of the aftermath drama to know there was some...and a sense of dread...that it could pop up in the episode at any moment. Even with all of the family scenes. THAT'S great production. They know we all will tune in next week for the REAL aftermath. So they held it until next week. *shakes fist playfully* KAREN. THE STAR for me this episode. She was so Ride-or-Die for Monique and I was HERE for that. She talked Monique down. She took NO LIP from the Green-Eyed Bandits post-fight. She verbally slapped sense into Candiace, getting her off camera to fix her weave. Karen was just a force to me. And she did not take sides. She laid blame on BOTH of them and kept her personal feelings out of it. She gave no comment...which a true friend would do...even if she was hurting over them falling out. And what hurt ME? Her scene with Ray. WOW. I felt that. And then her breaking down off camera. I was sad right along with her. ASHLEY. I hollered at the fact that all that drama happened and she was in the restroom. HAHAHAHA!!! And you know what? I cheered on her when she wanted to re-negotiate her deal with Michael. GET YOUR MONEY, GIRL!!! Cuz he will act up again. Like I said before, she is focused on the long game. WENDY. I was not really feeling her this episode. While I also like she is ride or die for Candiace, I don't like she will be part of the 'Brigade' with The Green Eyed Bandits. MONIQUE. Well as someone who has seen red, and know what I can do...I relate. This one is a toughie. If anyone remembered me leaving my job that I held for 8 years last year due to dissatisfaction, not helped by someone acting like RHOD Kary...I said part of the reason was it was approaching where Monique got to last night. So overall I did what I had to do for myself (Update: The Kary is gone and suing from last I heard due to him getting fired cuz he felt discriminated again over a homophobic comment. The irony. And my former boss the Kyle...fired under a mess of lawsuits. Guess who they want back? ). Again, one can only poke the bear so many times before the bear reacts. So while Team Monique and understandable...yeah, that was pretty bad last night. She...SAW...RED. I am on her side of the fight. But it's what she did AFTER that she was out of control. Again, I understand the red. And going forward she needs to show some remorse ON CAMERA. Not for me, but the audience who was on her side from go who might not be now that they have seen the fight. I believe in RL she has been nothing but remorseful and has gotten help to figure out what triggered her since then. But I might be wrong. And I am not here for no gang-ups after BH. At least like @Cat said, the production here are tight knit (which kinda makes one side-eye Michael again since that again speaks volume on him as a person but I digress) and while they did show all of it...they are letting the fight speak for itself. Keeping things real. Knowing when to step in...and when to let the organic of the reality do its thing. BH, take note. I felt production was very much on everyone's side and played no favorites. CANDIACE. Yeah, I got she was upset. However, lest not forget what role we played in that fight. And it didn't help that she was STILL talking smack. No wonder Monique stayed red. I hope she can learn from this herself. So far this season, Candiace has been the work in progress and showing growth. Don't let this sense of embarrassment make you regress. Seeing how she feels next week in that therapy session may or may not be telling. GIZELLE. Already trying to get everybody to turn against Monique. But I guess when one looks at the footage. One can see why, can't they? I think some good points will be made going forward. But you are the last person to be making them. Meanwhile, the tea her dad was dropping on Mr. Chocolate. WOW. If your father did not even show up at the wedding and does not clearly want to be around him and your kids do not even like him and he is their dad, what does that say about you really? ROBYN. Just SHUT UP. You cannot even form an opinion without Gizelle speaking first. So annoying. Overall...yeah. Going by next week's sneak peek already out...the dynamic is shifting. And it all started here. Great episode from start to finish. Again. Fingers crossed the ratings showed that. RHOA As Dr. Wendy would say..."Nene, Wendy (and Andy) ain't your friend." I still kept it on before I dozed off and yes, I saw Wendy Williams dogwalking Nene and Andy more or less letting her. And we know how I feel about Andy. Even watching it, I knew Nene would have a response. Trust THAT. But I had no idea that I would wake up and she would overnight it. Damn. Add on to that. My cousin has been messaging me while I am typing this. NOT the cousin who I converted to watching RHOP. lol. And she is spilling tea right now on Andy. I didn't know he was from St. Louis. And according to her, HE HAS NOT CHANGED and Nene isn't saying anything that is not true in those tweets on him. I...

Given some screenshots online, I hope she has that same energy for what I think is going on. I have two hours and 20 minutes to go....la sigh...

THIS.

It has its moments re: Part 3. But you can find clips of those moments on Twitter so I would say NO. In hindsight. It just made me angry. And AC needs to need stop being host...or Karma needs to be SWIFT.

Mmmmmmmm

POTOMAC Well, early word appears to be that we will be seeing ALL of the fight in 24 hours from now. lol. And apparently from different angles. BH So no talk about after having her jewelry stolen, Kyle's rings are popping up on other celebrities. I found that funny. And heard one of her rings is in Diane Keaton's possession. And I apparently missed a good part of the SECRETS REVEALED episode, but the fact that a lot of people liked that more than the season as well as it was apparently like RHOA's this year as I suspected in that there were scenes that should have been in the season to inform what was going on. I heard they did touch on Dorit's lawsuit more in one scene. They extended out that scene of Ex Soap Star with her daughter moving into the apartment that was hinting at body issues before we got to Rome. Then there was Sutton showing off how much money she has, how fun she is, and how they should have allowed her to show what we have been missing: the glamour of earlier scenes. And then there was the FULL scene of 'Bravo, Bravo, Fraking Bravo' showing that that producer (and Kyle) had been gunning for Denise for a while and that given how he was being a d*ck on camera, it is funny how Erika tried to make Aaron a storyline. In fact, it kinda shows why Aaron started to step in with the ladies. And there was other fun scenes. Filler or no filler. It was a good mix.

Well...Oooooo

Hmmmm...much needed as always. Thanks @Faulkner.

Same.

NY God, she looks so beautiful and New York has been on my mind lately in terms of my life post-pandemic... Speaking of NY, I have left the Birkshires and am at Ramona's bday party...lol. I hollered at the producers counting all of Ramona's 50 friends. I did not like that Tonya chick calling out the girls as if Ramona is some high society lady herself. And I did not like Ramona singling Leah out when Lu, Dorinda, and Elyse were right there dancing too. And Sonja with the flower hat is a gif. So I take it this was really when Leah vs Ramona started. Sad since earlier in the episode, Ramona was leaning on her somewhat to keep the other girls (well Sonja) calm. I am really not looking forward to the erasing of Elyse. She is really fitting in well now for me. So...ugh...

As they should be. They can be on the simplest show with few lines or none and still steal a scene instantly.