carolineg

20 minutes ago, Khan said:

What was even the point of Franco back then, except to give James Franco license to mock soaps as an "artistic experiment"?

No point.   I get it probably sounded okay on paper and was good buzz, but JF was clearly mocking GH, soaps, and the entire fanbase.  And Guza just kept running with it.  I am pretty positive Guza wanted Brenda to tie into the story, but Vanessa hard passed.  There was a whole thing about the numbers/signatures he put in paintings. It just didn't add up to much.  He was an actual serial killer that made money by taking pictures of serial killings as an artist and was famous, but super obsessed with Jason.   I liked when JF did the whole art exhibition in LA and just jumped off the roof so he was presumed dead though.  It was ridic but mildly entertaining.

2 hours ago, Aragorn said:

I will repeat. I believe that Jake was contentedly playing on the floor with his back to the door. Elizabeth turned her back on him, and when she turned around again Jake was gone and the door open. I am supposed to believe that Jake just suddenly got up, ran out the door into the street, and then got hit by drunken Luke. I reject that. Franco opened the door, grabbed Jake, and threw him into the street in front of Luke's car. He was not seen, but he still did it.

I also believe that Franco was following Abby, and sabotaged the crane while she was standing in front of it talking to Michael on the phone. Franco murdered her.

I reject a ton of things that have happened on GH.  That doesn't mean they aren't real. I appreciate the dedication to double down on this.

You want me to believe Liz, who was at home at the time looking at Aiden's paternity results, didn't notice a grown man breaking into her home and physically throwing a toddler into the street is more believable than a toddler opening an unlocked door and walking into the street?

Abby was not worth the trouble of going through all that rigmarole to kill her.  Franco should have just thrown her in front of Luke's car too lol.  

Thanks for the laughs though.

3 minutes ago, Khan said:

All that's missing is a Mr. Bill-like image of a clay "Abby" being crushed to death by a gigantic crane.

She got no justice either.  They told Michael she was just injured and then led him and Sam? to the morgue instead.

3 minutes ago, j swift said:

Unless, they are doing it for the money, after bad divorces, and other poor life choices, which just makes it even sadder. 

It doesn't seem like KA or PR are bad off in general.  As far as AZ, I can't believe even she needs the money just based on longevity on the show.  Although I do remember a SOD or SOW piece on actors from the 90's or 2000's that explained how soap actors first starting out make next to nothing.

21 minutes ago, j swift said:

@carolineg That's why it is funny to me when people create conspiracies about why the Bo & Hope reunion was cut short. In fact, it was more likely because their parking meter ran out and production couldn't spare the extra quarter.

Ha!  LA parking is no joke.  They probably weren't offering KA and PR much and they were just over it.  At this time I really think these "bigger stars" are just doing it out of love for the character, the show, and their fans.  Not because it's actually financially sound.

5 minutes ago, j swift said:

It is notable that if a table at the Met Gala goes for $350,000, that is most likely more than the annual salary of many long term actors on DAYS.  Especially, given that according to her lawsuit, production asked Arianne Zucker, a 25-year vet, to take a pay cut to under six figures.  In fact, TIL in 2023 they cut her travel expense, gave AA a raise, and did not ask any of her male co-stars to take a pay cut.

I don't think anyone on Days, even Deidre, makes 350000 currently.  I think the show did pay DH over a million at one time.  Anyhow, no wonder AZ left.  Under 6 figures in LA?  That's barely enough to cover the cost of living.  And I don't think Shawn Christian works that often and that's her husband/partner.  

Although I am very confident Ray Ban can afford that table so cool for JS.

15 minutes ago, Vee said:

What an image. Franco just yeeting that toddler into the street like Sting.

 

I feel like Franco in that era would have wanted to steal Jake away and make him his own-not throw him in front of a moving vehicle.  The Jason/James Franco vibes were so weird at the time.  He would eat green? M&M's because they were Jason's favorite.  Even summarizing stories from that era feel like a fever dream.

Just now, Aragorn said:

Don't you remember when a drunk Luke hit Jake with his car.? I think that Franco threw Jake into the street.

Of course I remember the Luke is a drunk saga.  But that just didn't happen lol.  Anyhow, write your own fanfiction.  I'll leave it alone.

2 minutes ago, j swift said:

Yeah, but I'd also be OK with Temp-Sloan if the character continues.  Just so that she and Tate (who date IRL) can carpool to work.  Given, my freeway commute, I am always up for less traffic. 

As someone who drove on the 405 for way too long every morning and evening for work I feel that lol.

Just now, j swift said:

She upgraded.  Since Top Model, she she was engaged to Kaan Gunay, the billionaire owner of the Firefly ad agency, Milutin Gatsby, a billionaire film producer, James Packer, the billionaire Australian media owner and former flame of Mariah Carey, Logan Paul, and Ed Westwick.  So, 4/6 of her engagements were to billionaires.

I feel like she defended Ed Westwick through the rape allegations too.    But the girl is clearly a hustler.  I always thought she was sweet and slightly country on ANTM.  She doesn't need Days money, so I won't feel bad when she is written off lol. 

1 minute ago, Vee said:

IIRC Michael was literally on the phone with her onscreen as it happened. "Abby? Abby?! No! Noooo!"

This is absolutely correct.  I don't even need to look the clip up. 

25 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I’m sorry, what? That is wild, and bad beyond imagining.

So Michael was having trouble interacting with females his age due to his time in prison (can't remember if we knew he was raped at the time, don't think so, but heavily implied).

Michael went to Sam and asked her to find him a prostitute so he could get his first time over with and be more confident.  Sam for some unknown reason agreed to this request. Abby was one of Sam's friends from the strip club (they knew one another through her PI work).  Sam "hired" Abby to sleep with Michael.  Abby didn't take any money, wasn't a prostitute, and had a heart of gold.  Michael freaked out at their first attempt at sex, but Abby continued to hang out with him.  I think Abby had an abusive bf at some point that Michael rescued her from. Eventually they became a couple and were kind of cute.  They date for awhile and she stops stripping and may or may not have worked for Tracey or the Q's?  She was on business trip somewhere when she got hit by the crane.

Also there is a great Sonny scene where he meets Abby at the hospital after the BUS CRASH of 2011 and knows she's a stripper because she's wearing fishnet stockings.  Seriously.  Oh, Guza

It also should be noted that Michael was in HIGH SCHOOL at the time him and Abby/Candy* met.  He was over 18 though because he was held back a year because of the whole murdering Claudia/prison thing.

*Candy was her stage name because of course.

2 minutes ago, Khan said:

Now that's what I call diabolical, lol!

I still can't believe they killed someone (off-screen) by dropping a crane on them.  That's Monty Python-level absurd.

I was in a deep GH depression due to VM leaving a few months earlier and thought Abby just disappeared.  But, no, her and Michael were still an item.  And they killed her off months later.  I think it's because the actress was in her mid 30's and Michael was still supposed to be a teenager.  The actress looked really young though, but she was also hired by Sam to sleep with Michael after his prison rape so it's real weird.  But she wasn't a prostitute.  Just doing Sam a solid.  The character of Abby is just a wild ride.

17 minutes ago, Aragorn said:

I believed that Franco did it. I also believed that Franco murdered Jake. He opened the door to Liz's house, grabbed Jake, and tossed him in front Luke's car.

Lol.  So it actually didn't happen it's just your belief.  Cool.  Anyway, it's an awfully elaborate plan for Franco to just kill a random stripper Michael was dating 

Jake's still alive so no one actually murdered him.  Was Franco even around back then?  I thought his last hurrah (James Franco) was blowing up the limo at Sonny and Brenda's wedding and almost killing Sam and making her deaf for 6 episodes.

ETA-totally forgot James Franco was around for Jason/Sam's honeymoon and all that "fun", so i guess he was still a thing.

20 hours ago, Vee said:

Sir/ma'am, I admire the fire but they are Lit-erally blood related!

Well, damn. That throws out my idea of a Sly/Lucky pairing lol.   So Bill/Luke are cousins?  Why was the show randomly testing Bill/Bobbie then?  Or maybe I just imagined that.  

44 minutes ago, Aragorn said:

I believed at the time that Franco caused the crane accident that killed Abby.

Franco did it?  I don't recall that.  She was not in PC at the time so was he just hoping Abby would walk by an open construction site so a random worker could lose control of the crane at exactly the right time?

Actually, thinking about GH in that time period that it's probably exactly how the show explained it lol.

2 minutes ago, Khan said:

OMG, lol!

Yeah, and we only heard a one sided phone call from Michael's end.  Poor girl didn't even appear again to film her death.  It was so hilarious I will never forget it.

2 minutes ago, Khan said:

??

Abby got killed by a crane off screen.  The actress and character weren't appearing much and I guess they fired her because she was on the phone with Michael and something fell off a crane and she died.  I am not making this up.  Michael went somewhere to scatter her ashes and everything.  I believe it was that weird writing period post Guza when Garin Wolf took over and before RC. 

13 hours ago, j swift said:

Jessica Serfaty (aka Sloan) repping Ray Ban at the Mat Gala 2024, her billionaire husband's family owns the brand - and they bought a table for $350,000.00

It's a lot!  But, I don't hate it as it on theme for Garden of Time custom couture by Dolce & Gabbana.

However, the billionaire should not have worn a clashing shade of red; in my opinion.

 

I kind of like it.  Met Gala outfits are always OTT.  I think it's cooler that her husband owns Ray Ban.  So many free sunglasses!

When she was on America's Next Top Model her whole story was about her being married and having a child at 17.  I am going to assume this isn't the same man lol.

5 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Chad’s in a similar situation as Scott Clifton; he’s a nice looking guy but the character he plays just makes him so unappealing. Part of me still wonders how Willow chose him over Chase

And I don’t know if it’s the writing or the way that Chad portrays it, but Michael’s biggest problem is that he’s literally a child trapped in a man’s body. Most of the time when he’s angry, he just comes off like a bratty little kid. There’s been no growth in his character over all these years

I actually think Scott Clifton is much better looking than Chad, but your point is spot on.  I think it makes sense his character is bratty with his upbringing, but Michael is a very stagnant character.  I would give the character a long break and probably recast.

It doesn't help that CD has no romantic chemistry with anyone.  His best pairing was Abby the stripper and she got killed by a crane off screen.

1 minute ago, John said:

So did I and I expected to leave after his first contract ended. 

I mean, where is he going to go?  He's the most vanilla, blandest actor on the planet right now.  It's basically a dog fight between Willow, Sasha, and Michael on who can be the most boring.  Michael has enough history to be a bit more exciting, but CD looks bored 99%  100% of the time so the chips just fall where they do.

2 minutes ago, John said:

Back in 2010 If you had told me that CD would be a long-term GH actor, I would have said you are crazy. I thought Michael would have been like OLTL's Kevin & Joey Buchanan. Multiple well recieved actors doing a 3 year contract & then being recast. 

I'll be honest, I thought CD was a total find in 2010. I liked DG's RAGE monkey Michael but I thought CD and his cute puppy face was such a good take on the role.  Then like 14 years happened and I don't feel the same.

20 minutes ago, Vee said:

I do think he's attractive! People used to mock me for how down bad I was for him in the 2010s lol. Again, I'm all for dadbods and normal physiques IRL. It's just that the whole character is such a schlub that it's just one more thing that makes me tired of him, like this is our spent leading man.

He's not a bad looking guy and if I met him in real life I would think he was really handsome I assume.  He is so played out and I think that really affects perspective because I do eyeroll him ever time I see him.

But also CD was a hottie in the early 2010 era.

Chad Duell isn't my type or anything and he did gain some weight.  I hate Michael and everything,  but I still think he's attractive.   I hate his actual character not his looks

At the risk of sounding like a HUGE Sonny defender, can he just quit?  I know Brenda made it sound nice and pretty, but does he have a successor if he retires?  Jason is currently out, so is it Brick lol?   I am sure he has enough money and all that, but could Sonny actually say  and move on without consequence?  

I also have no idea what the "mob life" actually entails so I am just asking basically. 

22 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

And he’s bisexual, caught in a triangle with mother (Liz) and son (recently aged up and legal Aiden, lol). 

I was thinking more wholesome.  Like Sly facetimes Lucky when he and Aiden are baking some cookies and they all bond.   Since I don't buy the narrative that Lucky just abandoned all of his children.  But I was thinking unknown Sly could be gay/bi and is just doing it all to be closer to Lucky lol.