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I wonder if it's more of a space and time issue than a money one. Because you can find a nice antique table at Goodwill for cheap and it would probably look good on camera.

Kayla and Marlena are both Drs and can afford a kitchen table that's not from Target. I am pretty sure John is still a millionaire. I don't have high hopes for the income Black Patch brings in, but all these people are established to be successful. I can understand a single person not prioritizing a table, but both these couples have their grown ass children living with them too😂 Even Sloane appeared to have rented a table for her disastrous dinner party.

Yeah, you definitely get what I am saying. We trekked through Mexican ruins for what felt like months (I know it's not, but it moved a bit slow) and it all ended without much drama or conflict. Putting Roman and Marlena back together was never an issue with me. I don't know how you could avoid that. It was just the aftermath of them getting back together after 7 years didn't play out at all. And I swear, Roman goes undercover very soon after this and stories just move on. I can get John moving on and stepping back because he's committed to a pregnant Isabella and wants to know who he is. Outside of a handful of scenes that show some awkwardness. John, Roman, Isabella and Marlena just become good friends. It just wasn't a very satisfying conclusion to a story that started out so well and if I was watching live back then I would have been disappointed.

Yeah, maybe not. Andrea didn't play the role long though. I do think the Hattie original story was going somewhere and it got scrapped or changed. As Ron has written the clones back into the universe it would just make more sense for Hattie to a clone and not just a lookalike. Well, as much sense that you could make with clones being in a story lol.

Okay. So 1/30/92 is about a month out from where you are. That could explain the pace and things wrapping up. Even if Marlena played it more as her own guilt for choosing Roman or Sami/Eric have a difficult time bonding with Roman. It just felt so easily solved in the moment. And like I said it's been a few years since I watched. I just remember being very disappointed overall. I find most of 1992 to be a snooze to be honest though. It's sort of a lull in the show until it moves into high gear in 1993.

Penelope was killed when Edmund thought she was Kristen I believe.

Charlotte is definitely better than Violet, but I also find Violet to be the most obnoxious child on the planet so it's faint praise. If only Aiden or Jake got the airtime those two do.

Yes! That's what I was talking about John/Marlena go from conflicted....to not at all and I don't even think it was more than a few episodes. Even little Sami/Eric just take to Roman immediately. I don't know if there were backstage things going on, but the writers were just quickly wrapping it up. And I know some people think it was to gear up for the eventual affair. I don't really get that sense. I don't think it was some long term plan. I know Roman leaves to go on assignment pretty soon and I think it's when PR's Bo leaves and RKK's Bo appears, so maybe the show needed to move things along. But even John moves on to the Romulus/Danielle story and the characters of John/Marlena/Roman don't really intersect that much.

Well, Kristen has her own set of doppelgangers so she'd probably think it was normal.

In this day and age soaps don't even use the kids much because money and laws. So you might as well open it up more because we end up with 4 actors being eligible. I know. I am horrible for putting it in the universe. The girl that plays Charlotte probably has it in the bag honestly.

I still don't get why Hattie wasn't one of the clones. So Marlena not only has 4 (living) clones, but a doppelganger and had a twin sister. That's a lot of people that look like you lol

Let's be honest. It would have felt less lopsided with Victoria Grace in the category, but Eden was going to win regardless. So, oh well, whatever. It's a dumb category as it stands with the current rules and the girl that plays Violet will probably win next year and that's a bigger travesty than EM winning lol.

I would say it's been about 3 years since I watched this story, but did you feel it was wrapped pretty quickly? I felt the Mexico saga dragged on, but the ending was just neat and tidy. John decided to be with Isabella and Roman and Marlena got back together within a few episodes. I always thought they didn't squeeze the drama out of it enough even with the kids. Sure, John still doesn't know who he is, but I always felt the ending didn't deal enough with the fallout of John being Roman for 4 years. Obviously, they pick those threads back up in a few years, but I remember being overall disappointed with the entire story.

Yeah, I may disagree with the fact she won the category because it was ridiculous she was against two 10 year old dayplayers, but she wasn't cheating. She was eligible in the age category and people on twitter calling her to withdraw her name was odd. Victoria Grace was the one who was ineligible, so why should Eden withdraw? I can't stand Joss obviously, but there isn't any real indication Eden McCoy is evil.

I am lol. It was always something I thought about through the years and the show ignored it. Like is there a Marlena clone living her best life in rural Iowa on a farm? Then Ron decided to bring it back up as a fact quite often. And they just killed one off, but where are the others?? Why isn't Marlena more concerned there are clones of her out there roaming the earth?

In slight defense of Eden she's probably not a bad person. She's just immature and didn't handle herself very well. It certainly didn't endear me to her or her character, but some of those people on twitter were trolling her pretty bad. Not that I disagreed with the sentiment and I did find her win unfair, but I wouldn't go seek the girl out and post on her social media. I would also assume her mom was quite ill at the time and Eden wasn't in the best headspace. This is the first and probably last time I will defend Eden lol.

Eden reminds me a lot of early Julie Marie Berman. I don't think Eden has JMB's range, but they both are kind of that smug character that you automatically dislike and yet they still have 10 guys always running after them. JMB figured out how to play Lulu as a likeable human. EM has not figured it out yet.

I agree that Nina as a character has run its course, but who would actually choose to have Carly as a mother? Lol. Fingers crossed Donna doesn't get shot. All her children have suffered immense trauma from her poor decisions. I like Carly, but Nina really hasn't done that much objectively wrong for people to shun her forever and ever.

Yes, Trina is a good person and wouldn't do that to her "friend" unfortunately. Again, I feel horrible for Eden McCoy and her current struggles, but did she take lessons for Laura Wright on being smug? She didn't get the Laura Wright memo on being likable as well. I honestly don't even mind Joss with CF. I feel like Trina is actually related to every black person on the canvas at this point too. Isn't she even related to TJ lol?

She's better than real Joss, but I feel bad saying that since Eden's going through a devastating loss in real life. I wanted Dex/Kristina too!

I mean, I might just pair Trina with Dex to screw with Josslyn. But not everyone dislikes Joss the way @AbcNbc247 and I do lol.

Thank you everyone for the extra info. As you all know I am like the worst person with spoilers and coming and goings lol. Who do you think they will pair Trina with in the future? Mo's son? A recast Cam?

Got it. I think I myself was confused about the timeline. I thought he was taking a break and coming back, but he would eventually leave at the end of his contract. I didn't know his break aligned with his contract being up.

Sorry, I should clarify my statement. I know Chavez is taking a break to film another project, but I am under the assumption he will leave permanently once his contract is up. Obviously, that isn't confirmed, but I can't imagine him re-upping for any length of time.

Works for me. Minus the Trina/Spencer kid of course lol. I still don't know what to do with Ace. I guess Esme just takes him when she leaves and she could come back whenever. Esme is not very well integrated into the cast. She interacts with quite a few people, but no one her own age except Spencer. If you take Spencer out of the equation where does she go? She has no friends, no potential love interest and a menial job at the paper. In theory she has tons of connections, but in actuality she really doesn't have much to do.