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To be fair, Carly has been like this 20 years longer than Diana was around and was killed off. We will never rid ourselves so easily of Carly lol.

Was the ending really just Ava and Stefan drinking champagne?😂 Unless they show them in bed tomorrow or something that was really lame.

@Donna L. BridgesI wasn't saying Marlena didn't regret it. I was more thinking how the audience would perceive it. It became much more sympathetic than a casual affair. It also showcased more passion and romance than Roman/Marlena had at that moment, as they were shown as pretty strained at the time. I am not saying they weren't wrong or didn't destroy lives, but they both were given a pretty strong point of view on it being true love.

I don't know. I heard long ago somewhere that the plan was always for John/Marlena to have an affair (I don't have a source for this). It would have included Isabella. When Staci decided to leave, which I think was a bit of a surprise, the show moved full speed ahead with John/Isabella instead and put all the affair stuff on the backburner. Even with that plan the show could have shown Roman/Marlena struggling a bit more and John/Marlena having lingering feelings. I tend to think it became an idea after Staci decided to leave when Drake would be without a love interest. I would suspect JER was responsible for the shift in Roman's writing. I don't think Roman was painted as the bad guy exactly, John and Marlena's actions just became almost justified or unavoidable. To be honest, I wouldn't say Wayne's return was a complete flop, but none of his stories post-return were very good. I think John still had a bigger fanbase and it was easier to drop Roman in the end.

Ha! Ha! I think I just left my browser open. I haven't even gotten through all these replies. We really aren't actually supposed to think Sonny is book smart, are we? I thought he was just street smart, which I honestly question if I would go that far.

The first seed for me was when Isabella was dying and she asked Marlena to take care of John when she's gone. There are hints John/Marlena have at strong bond before the Pit because John has some harsh words to say about Roman going undercover and Marlena helps him with his grief with Isabella. They also work together against Roman to help Carrie with some of TM's Carrie's idiotic decisions. I wouldn't say it was extremely overt or obvious but perhaps showing how compatible they still were. After all Isabella had just died lol So basically the timeline is pretty quick- Dec 1991 Roman/Marlena reunite Jan-May 1992 Isabella/John get married, Brady is born, she dies. Roman is doing his undercover work. May 1992-Oct 1992 Marlena is involved with John and Brady, but her story mostly revolves around Roger and Stella's growing jealousy of her. Roman and Marlena start having issues because Roman wants her to step back from Roger and her work and reconnect with him. They have a huge blowout before the Pit and Roman just accepts Marlena is on this business trip for weeks, but John is suspect. The more slanted writing for Roman begins. Nov 1992-Pit. And John of course is the one to find her and they both profess their love for one another because they think they are dying. Dec. 1992 John and Marlena both declare their current love for one another Feb. 1993-Affair begins I am pretty sure the affair was Sheri Anderson and JER. It sounds like it was quick because in actuality it was, but it was a sudden shift from John being all about Isabella to absolutely in love with Marlena. Roman/Marlena show cracks earlier, but more because of Roman-not because Marlena had feelings for John.

EOB is by no means perfect or even anywhere near there, but I think Theresa is finally getting decent material and it works for the type of acting EOB does well at. The accent is still rough, the wig is cartoonish, but she seems more sympathetic than she originally did and a bit more at ease with the material.

That goofy karate stuff Drake does never fails to crack me up. Obviously it looks even more ridiculous than it did 30 years ago because he's 70 now lol. I love Marlena is slightly concerned, but is like this has happened so many times before it's almost normal 😂 I think EOB is slowly finding her groove as Theresa. It's not the same as JL, but I think she's doing better. I just hope part of her new sobriety journey is to get a new look and darken her hair. I still find the wig so distracting lol. I am surprised Alex is so confident in sticking by Theresa. I feel like they barely know one another and this romance progressed so quickly.

Ooh...I like that idea.

Marlena didn't really have her own story in the beginning of 1992. She could have been doing tv movies or side projects, but she was a bit on the backburner. She was mad at Roman for going undercover and that Mrs. Doubtfire rip off, she supported and helped in the Danielle Romulus story, was supporting in Isabella's illness, Carrie's return etc. The Lombard story does start pretty early on in 1992 when they sue the hospital and she's involved in that from the beginning, but not in a huge capacity. Marlena is definitely around and appears, she is just more supporting in the stories the show was focusing on at the time. By summer Marlena's story with Roger is heating up and she's in the Pit by Nov 92, maybe October?

There's plenty of posts on this thread even about CC and DH having issues. To the point, I believe soap press asked both of them about it. It had something to do with Deidre being jealous/mean/upset about Crystal's airtime and Carly's prominence on the show at the time. Ex- DAYS Star Deidre Hall Puts Rumors of Crystal Chappell Feud to Rest - Daytime Confidential This is the gist of it. Obviously they both basically denied it.

When you think about it it's such a complicated and convoluted plan. Ryan was hoping his 16 or 17 year old daughter- 1. Could catch Spencer's eye and hit it off with him 2. Get serious enough to commit to her and take her back to Port Charles 3. Then get close enough to Nik to have him sleep with 4. Get pregnant. I supposed she succeeded but a master mind like Ryan could have figured out an easier plan to just get Ava back lol

IMO, it was a decent story in theory. I just found it boring after the initial returns. The momentum was just lost. The stuff in Mexico was both drawn out and overexplained and then they all went home and it was all tied up in a bow and everyone was happy (well, except John I guess lol). I can see wanting to move on, but I don't have too many nice things to say about the next stories (Romulus, Roman undercover). I think I remember hearing Wayne and Deidre only signed on for 6 months or something initially, so maybe they were trying to wrap it up in case one or both left.

I get what you are saying because I didn't really have a connection to Bobbie being a big part of Kelly's. Ruby had a much stronger presence there and while Bobbie may have currently owned it I don't really associate her with it. That being said, I am fine with it and thinks it's a nice gesture. It just doesn't make the most sense.

That's why I wonder if the story with Andrea didn't go anywhere. Hattie was having all this surgery to look just like Marlena and what happens when these surgeries are complete? Lol. Andrea wasn't going to look the same age or body shape without undergoing a major transformation herself and that was probably something she didn't want to do. I really don't mean it in an insulting way-it just is what it is. In my mind it made sense for DH to play Hattie when she returned even if I think Hattie is completely useless. I really just think Langan or whoever thought it was a clever idea at the time, but didn't think the endgame through. Like I said, I always thought Don was an idiot back in the day because the two women, while twins, were fairly easy to tell apart.

No Not really it seemed like it may have been gearing up to her possibly being Sam or just a random psycho, but it was entirely dropped. I don't think it helped that Andrea looked visibly older than Deidre because of work and stuff (no disrespect to Andrea who seems to have aged very naturally). I didn't think they looked that much alike in the 70's. They are mirror twins, but I also don't think anyone in town would have been fooled by Hattie. Their voices are even very different. I think it was just a gimmick.

I guess we are back in the Carly wins everything era lol. I was really worried about her for those 9 months where she almost lost her mansion and was down on her luck 😂

I liked Carly running Kelly's/Bobbie's. I didn't even mind her stint at the MetroCourt because you could assume Jax was doing the work and he taught her enough to be competent. Running a magazine in 2024? Like it's easy with a half a nursing degree? Lol. She doesn't even have Maxie or Lulu there to run it by default.

I am not going to lie, I am shocked she has such a dedicated following. Joss barely did anything at Bobbie's funeral anyway. Wasn't she basically just in the background?

So if Eden McCoy was just sick or injured and unable to work then it would have been okay to pester her? Lol. I feel like I have spent way too many posts talking about Joss and Eden McCoy today. Did Sonny do anything stupid today? 😂🤷‍♀️

I think blonde suits LW. I am sure she'd look great as a brunette too though. Weren't there actual posts on EM's twitter demanding she come back for Bobbie's funeral?

I am not surprised they broke up either, especially with WL leaving. I don't even have that much of a problem with her cheating. It happens. Joss is young. It was just they way I perceived it was Cameron was the problem. And stifling Joss's awesomeness or something. LW does just have the best hair. I could watch it swish back and forth all day lol And it's such a small portion of fans who would attack a girl on her twitter because that's weird and no one will remember who won the Young Actor Daytime Emmy in 2023 in 2 years lol

My thing with Joss is she said she felt bad, but it wasn't shown. She was still written as in the right like the passion between her and Dex was too crazy to control. Just take about half an hour to break up your boyfriend. I don't fault Joss for falling out of love with Cameron. I fault her and her family/friends supporting it like it wasn't a bad thing to do. It's not an unforgivable sin, but the writing was so slanted to make Cameron seem like he was wrong for being a good boyfriend and boring? The problem is the show trying to make Joss this awesome human being with no faults and so helpful when she's just a regular girl with flaws.

Yeah. Roman and Marlena make sense at the time. And a lot of these issue pop up later and that's the beauty of soaps and years long storytelling. We just didn't get much trauma from two people who were kidnapped for years at all in the moment. Marlena just gave up on even trying to find out what happened to her for 5 years lol. John's story is better told IMO. Anyway, most of these things are answered much later on, but it was an immediate slide into Roman and Marlena's domestic bliss......until it wasn't a few years later. There were just so many options and places you could go with Roman/Marlena's returns and it ended up just a bit blah.

I wonder if it's more of a space and time issue than a money one. Because you can find a nice antique table at Goodwill for cheap and it would probably look good on camera.