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Is Willow behind Kevin's head? Anyway, I was fully expecting a Steve Burton photo for this thread, so I'll take the oddly shot anniversary one.

I was never a big CS/Karen fan, but I have an obvious bias lol. Karen was so wimpy and literally just let things happen to her. Brenda wasn't even stealthy or that smart about her sabotage and just got away with it because Karen was such a lame noodle. I always did like ASJ's Jagger.

I don't know if it would be that out of character for EJ to, say, team up with Sloan to keep Eric/Nicole apart due to jealousy. This kind, gentler EJ feels more out of character than a villain one.

I think it's easy to forget how popular ASJ was for a minute and his (horrible) role on Melrose Place during the peak of it's run. I tend to agree I doubt the show is very committed to this Jagger and it probably all was done before GH got Steve Burton back.

I definitely think that was it. If AZ was fired or left both Holly/Tate had reasonable endings until the show could figure it out. I think there is a very real possibility Nicole/Eric have a HEA and raise Jude off screen, but I have no idea GV's status with the show.

ASJ was the weakest actor of the bunch, but I would say he was fairly charismatic and had good chemistry with his co stars. Karen/Jagger were an extremely popular pairing in their day. And, let's be honest, no one really cared about his acting because of how hot ASJ was. The way Karen/Jagger ended and the fact that ASJ is who he is now probably colors a lot of people's memories of the character. I am not saying AH is ugly or a bad actor. I just think when you go so far off in casting and bring back a character in name only it's a baffling choice. How long can Sonny/Jagger talk about Karen and Stone? Both have been dead for decades and 90% of the cast currently didn't know either of them. I eye roll at the fact they are going to pair him with Carly. It's not even a creative choice to give Carly a Brenda cast off these days. Someone like Nina or Ava would be more interesting.

I think maybe they just wanted to pause the story until all the actors were back? I thought it was a strange choice as well. Idk, Days does have the weirdest pacing though. You have to imagine it was a pretty tense situation especially with what we know from AZ now. I have to wonder if AZ was thinking about not coming back at all.

I find myself really warming to EOB's Theresa lately, which is crazy because I was one of her biggest detractors. I actually think she and EM have pretty good chemistry too! I don't even know who I am anymore lol.

Do you ever think Sonny would become sleazy again? I do like the show at least acknowledges it happened, but I could never imagine current GH going there again with Sonny. I guess at the very least we are saving Serena from the inevitable pairing with Michael, so there's that.

💯 I couldn't agree more!

I understand silly hate, but on this soap board we clearly care about our shows and can critique when necessary. I want to love GH again, but I am not there. A new regime is coming so I will be optimistic, but I won't say this Jagger recast was a solid idea ever.

Are we comparing Steven Lars Webber to Jagger Cates? Lol It's very clear I care about GH. Hell, I even like Jagger a ton, but not this version. If everyone that criticized the show just turned off their tvs GH would be in a lot of trouble.

Just breaking down Jagger's situation- People he was close to- Off Canvas Brenda Robin His son His dumb sister Dead Karen Stone Ruby AJ People that got conked in the head and don't remember him Jason People that disliked him a lot 30 years ago Sonny Possibly Scott, but K&J left the show before he found out she was his daughter People that might sort of know him Lucy Laura Lois Kevin Tracy Mac Felicia Anna This man has no ties to the show outside of Sonny at this point and it's such a waste of time and money.

💯 And he's not Australian so he can't be Jax, so Jagger works I guess lol.

I just feel like Tripp is Patch's long lost son on Days and isn't setting the world on fire. He's cute and lovely, but he's not exactly special. I know it's a lot of the writing for him on Days though. He'd probably be fine as Michael. I think he's a little young, but the bar CD is setting is so low I think LA would be an okay recast. But it's definitely not anything the show needs. I was just trying to vaguely come up with a character he could play that would be mildly relevant. I think you can tell ELR has had work done lol, but she still looks good.

I think he'd make a good recast Dex if we had to recast Dex. But I'd take a Lucky, a Lulu, etc long before I'd consider anything about Dex. I am trying to think of a legacy character he could play, but he seems too old and blonde to be Brenda's kid so I am just drawing a blank. I suppose he could be a recast Morgan, but I don't want to go down that road. Maybe a recast Stone Jr? But he still feels a bit old for that. He's fine on days lol doing boring stuff with Wendy.

The actor that plays Tripp is pretty good and I do like him, but isn't he basically the same person as Michael and Dex?

Brennan and Jagger have almost nothing in common except loosely law enforcement. So if that's the case it was a very silly idea. No matter what GH thought about AH and how good he was there is no way on earth he should have been greenlit as a Jagger recast. People weren't asking for a Jagger return, but care enough to see this recast is ridiculous.

I tend to doubt it. FV won't even let Vanessa near the room because he dislikes her. I can't see him personally advocating for ASJ the Trumper. There really isn't much upside to hiring ASJ and I don't think Frank is that dumb. I think it's an idea Frank had, but didn't actually watch a single Jagger scene ever and just hired a handsome, blonde guy.

There is just so little that ties NuJagger to OGJagger. Looks aside, this guy could be anyone that just throws out names like Stone and Karen. He isn't giving any of the rebel, motorcycle riding, boxing, messy, womanizing character Jagger was. He's just some guy that hates Sonny.

Yeah, I've never really thought about it, but maybe I should? Lol. People that know me know we were together and now we aren't, so it never seemed like a big deal to scrub him or any of my other exes from my socials. I am not super big on social media though so I can understand if someone was and posted stuff a lot.

That's fair. I don't agree about ELR stepping in it on this interview, but everyone can have their own take on it. I really don't think ELR was being homophobic, but more savvy about her character's longevity. If she's putting a spin on Natalia now maybe it will lead to a contract down the road. I really don't think it has anything to do with her personal beliefs, but more on squeezing the screentime her character can get. Again, though, YMMV on this.

I have to agree. The best part of the Jagger character was how smoking hot young ASJ was. He wasn't a fully fleshed out intriguing character. He was always just eye candy. There's no point to him being on the canvas now just so he can talk some crap to Sonny. I would do that for free lol.

Here's the thing-Eva La Rue is a decent name for a soap. She has had a very successful career. I am not expecting her to be the most woke, articulate person in the world on a local tv news interview. I can see why it could be taken offensively, but I really don't think that was her intent or goal. She's giving a view on a fictional character, not her own personal views. I had my objections to this casting and this role, but even I don't see why there is an outcry here.

https://despairintheafternoon.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/dont-settle-for-the-minimum/ Just because Nina should shut up and Sonny sucks.