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The cult story was 1980. By this point Nikki Had been living with Casey who left town. She was stripping at The Bayou and her marriage to Greg was ending due to the events that took place in the first clip. I believe the Edward story started with Casey, she got the harassing calls and stuff, then it shifted to Nikki, when Roberta Leighton left. Y&R 1980 - 1982 fascinates me, simply because the show was in a state of change, yet still had the same production crew, many of the same characters/actors from the 70's but was definitely shifting.

Apparently he went catatonic when his step father was killed in front of him. I think that was the story.

Yeah I wouldn't mind knowing that. Possibly in 1979 when Suzanne takes Derek to see Jaime in the hospital to keep him from marrying Jill (who was waiting at a chapel to marry Stuart). I am also interested in the original treatment of this story, in July 1976 this story was started and then abandoned within six weeks due to backstage dramas. From what I understand Caleb Stoddard was the first Derek and didn't have much presence or charisma and was dropped 3 weeks in, then Jeff Cooper took over and lasted about the same amount of time before the whole story was dropped.

Yeah maybe fire is the wrong word, she just had more attitude and was more snarky. Brenda was very sweet and stoic and firm. More a classic heroine. For the record I don't think it damaged the character and I love Brenda in the role. I do think Bell sometimes tailored characters to fit actors which is what helped these recasts. I think what I miss about Dickson's Jill is the more playful elements that Jess had more of in the beginning.

Of the three big recasts around that time, Jill, Ashley and Jack. I would say PB was my least favourite. Lester played Jack as a arrogant, self absorbed player but had a complete rascal type charm about him that made you like his character. He could also do soft and emotional when he needed to. PB wasn't cut out for the bad boy Jack and it shows in the eps posted and Bell shifted the character accordingly. I would say the same of Brenda Epperson's Ashley. Watching old clips of Eileen I forget how much attitude and fire she had compared with Brenda. Jess, well I think she is a far better actor then Brenda was even in her first run, but Dickson was Jill. They definitely changed the character after Jess came on. It is only Jess' acting that I prefer, but the writing of the character and Brenda's interpretation were better to me.

I wonder if it is just Sony. B&B has at least a years worth of eps out on DVD in Germany and about 50eps in other countries, including here in Australia. Brad must be aware of that and ok'd it at some level.

I honestly don't know why CBS/Sony/The Bells don't look at the view counts on classic clips and realise there might be a profit to be gained from somehow releasing old episodes. They could at the very least try streaming the show from the start to see what interest there is. Certainly the EW article with the first episode attached got some good attention.

Thanks YRfan23 for this and everyone who takes the time and effort to post episodes, I am eternally grateful especially considering the hard work of re-uploading constantly.

The one big change I noticed with the prime time episode is how much faster the scene transitions are, there aren't any real camera holds on actors faces. I actually prefer it and wish Y&R had incorporated that into the show at that time.

Thanks Carl for clearing that up. Yeah I didn't like Ryan either. I later found it amusing that Nina would give Victoria a hard time about her sexual problems with Ryan as I distinctly remember that Tricia (who may have been a virgin when she slept with Ryan) was completely underwhelmed by Ryan in bed. The first time anyway. Ryan always came across in the writing as a jerk and complete douche. I wonder if Bell meant it that way or it was just accidental.

Cole and Victoria were together until around 97/98. But they were more off than on towards the last year or so. I think 96/97 was pretty much the end of their relationship. Ryan was Victoria's shoulder to cry on, he was married to Nina, but every time one or the other had marital problems they would lean on each other with plenty of flirting. I am pretty sure Nina and Cole slept together at some point in 1996, not sure if Ryan and Vicky did. Ryan left Nina for Trish Dennison the psycho who ended up killing him during his re-marriage to Victoria, I don't think putting Vicky and Ryan back together was such a good idea to be honest. @Sheilaforever - we must have posted at the same time. The prime time episodes aired March 3 1994, Oct 26th 1995, May 22 1996, Mar 10 1998. Not sure about production codes or if an episode aired that day, I assume it did.

I can understand Victoria's attitude about Sharon here, if you were in a similar situation with your sibling in jail and his new girlfriend was keeping her mouth shut you probably wouldn't be too kind, she is desperate and angry with how things are. I agree Victoria and Sharon had a complex relationship, I do remember Victoria defending Sharon to Nikki or at least telling her mother to butt out on a few occasions. I think Cole was a good influence on Victoria and a big part of her softening her attitude.

Yeah Jeanne also said John Considine was there when she was hired and gone shortly after. I assume he was introduced as Liz's boss, maybe shown at the factory and probably had very few scenes before Jeanne arrived. Bell was good at introducing a character slowly, so Jeanne may have started in Nov 73 but maybe was only on a couple times a week and many of her scenes may have been her sitting in her living room lamenting her life or with Theresa and of course Phillip. Remember the Chris Brooks rape story was wrapping up, then Chris and Snapper were engaged and Sally discovered she was pregnant and tried to commit suicide about the time Kay started to appear. Shortly after she turned up on screen Laurie Brooks returned home, so there was plenty of other stuff going on.

I love the inner thoughts, I actually prefer it to characters talking to themselves, but it always reminds me of Airplane (1980) and makes me laugh.

What an amazing episode. Seeing Jill's determination and knowing how on point Bell kept her character for his 25 year tenure. One of his best creations in my mind. Loved her flub, Brenda recovered so well it does seem as if it was scripted and Jill's nerves got the better of her. Though after that I kept waiting for Theresa to do the same thing. I always thought Kay was called Mrs. Chancellor until the mid 80's by everyone except of course her husbands/boyfriends. I am assuming this aired very late Jan or very early Feb, was wondering how long John Considine was on for. I think Donnelly must have taken over soon after this though. I too think the Foster family would do well today, if balanced out with a rich family. There are a lot of people struggling today, so it would be relevant, but we also seem to be in a society that loves watching rich people do sweet F*&^ all, all day long. I do notice Bell's stories back then developed very slowly, but each episode I have seen from the 70's is rich with character development.

Which makes me believe she wasn't dictating the changes in story as is implied in that article. Wouldn't be surprised if this story was one of the reasons she left.

What is interesting is Pat Falken-Smith left Days around the time that article came out, does anyone know why she left. I had heard she wasn't happy with network interference, maybe this story was part of that. Can anyone confirm?

Thanks for the article Paul. Amazing still is that in the 90's interracial (mostly Black/White) couplings were still controversial on many shows. I tend to believe the actors on this one. I am sure PFS and Wes would never outright admit to anything the actors were talking about. I call utter BS on Pat for her remarks about not wanting a more intimate display for David and Valerie. Never happened on soaps, all couples back then kissed or at the very least touched and were affectionate unless it was clear for the story that a character had a reason for it.

Interestingly they had Jill and John mend ways a bit in 1987 when Brenda was still in the role, so I wasn't surprised Jill and John re-connected and re-married. I was disappointed that it had to end in another affair. I actually thought it would have been something for Jill to stick it out with John through his impotence but fall out of love with him and want a divorce. No fault, but plenty of anger. I realise Jill needs passion and it was in keeping with her character, but I would have liked some growth on her part. After the disasters with men since her first divorce to John I would think Jill could have held back the insatiable desire to sleep with Jed. At least with Jack it was just once and she was vulnerable thinking she was going to die alone in the snow. With Jed it was crazy OTT.

Yeah the Olivia outfit is pretty much early 90's. The hat and choker were very much in style between 1990 - 1993. Soapfan770 I would also like to see the scenes of Kay returning from the dead and kicking Jill out on her honeymoon night. The audio was awesome.

Funny in that article they talk about Jill's marriages, but only two of them were ever legal at that point. Her marriage to Stuart and her two marriages to John. The rest were thwarted by Kay with the exception of her marriage to Brock. I am surprised they didn't add Derek Thurston since she and Derek did get married in 1979, even though it was invalid due to Kay crashing their honeymoon night and revealing she was still alive.

I thought I remember Bell saying in an interview the story consultant title was just that, a title. Bell claimed he had no input, though I do remember reading letters in a Days history book from Bell to Pat Falken Smith talking about Julie and Doug's characters after they married. Possibly PFS asked him for advice during her stint and he guided her somewhat, Bell also stated once that he let Pat just do her thing and didn't interfere. I wonder if his real connection to the show ended completely when PFS left.

Yeah it gets frustrating. Many years ago there were a lot more clips from the very early 80's, around 82/83. Like full episodes during the time Nikki was pregnant with Victoria. Unfortunately I never thought to save them.

Episode is from Sep 4th 1998 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4oZE6JQDBo

All that was said at the time was they wanted to take Thorne in a different direction. Maybe they thought Norcross limited, which he was, though I thought he was getting better. He actually had chemistry with Bobbie Eakes in the one scene I saw them in.