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It is ridiculous that Carly loose everything while Sonny still has it all after all these years and crimes by both of them. And I am all for Carly at rock bottom but only if Laura Wright brings back some kind of edge to the character. I assume nobody has mentioned Bobbie or Jax because of the real world implications. It’s not like we have to see Ingo to have a Jax mention. And Bobbie should not be presented as super wealthy anyway- upper middle class and with a comfortable retirement. If Jackie was alive it would be lovely if she moved in with Bobbie though. The current regime totally gets Felicia. I know the vets bring a lot of affection for each other into scenes themselves, but she’s just the right mix of friend/talk to, busybody, and still ready to go on an adventure. It’s the only character that I would say this regime has reinvigorated compared to the last few years of her previous contract run. I don’t want her serving coffee, I want her in the mix just like she has been for the last year. Also- what an excellent time for one of those Bill Bell twists like Addie on DAYS. Willow survived cancer only to be run down by Selina Wu or Gladys while trying to save Wiley out in the street. Dead on arrival at GH.

I do not disagree. Again, pure fantasy but there would need to be characters leaving. And Finn, his dad, and Austin would all be early exits. It truly is not personal- I have liked both OLTL actors in other roles. But Finn and Austin do not work and they have tried so hard to prop them up.

Off that list, I would only want David and a newly cast early 30’s Tom Hardy Jr. Oh and a bonus of William Moses as Jeff Webber more permanently. Maybe recurring visits from Tom Hardy and Simone just to anchor Tom Jr a little (I’m fine with Matt Ashford and would love Laura Carrington or Stephanie Williams). If we were truly dreaming, Patrick and Robin back too. And Anna having to deal with real issues between David and Robin while all these doctors are vying for control of GH. I would love to see Debbi Morgan playing any role of substance on daytime again, but I don’t think GH has a natural place for Angie and Jesse (I couldn’t break them up again), without the show dipping too far into being another show (like when the OLTL invasion happened). As much as I loved Todd, Blair, Tea, and enjoyed McBain on GH, it was too much. Add in Starr and Cole too for more yuck. I know most of those folks didn’t stay long, but the impact was huge. David has a natural fit here- history with Anna, a doctor, and a history of antagonism which the hospital needs. David and Tracy plotting together just sounds fun.

Happy for all the Jackson fans, but the only person from Pine Valley I want to see is David Hayward. And he can make all kinds of mayhem for the other doctors at GH, while rekindling his relationship with Anna.

Isn’t it supposed to be a rooftop pool? They never have it lit correctly for that vibe. Part of the issue is the contract money is much, much smaller than it was back then. I bet only a handful of GH stars have contracts that while larger than their peers they are still considerably smaller than they were under JFP. I bet Frank’s pets ME and RH make less than they did when they arrived at GH a decade ago. Genie gets months off like Tony used to, although she had them over a barrel publicly so I bet she still has solid $. Also Frank schedules things so tightly that they use sets that make no sense because they are up and the actors are there filming other scenes for the day. People fully dressed at the pool for no reason. Sitting in the hospital with no dialogue explaining why they are at GH. All the way back at OLTL Hillary B Smith talked about Valentini’s penchant for filming multiple episodes at the same time, and how she found it confusing and difficult to perform under. I’m sure it’s even tighter now. Plus they go dark more often than they did back then, not as much as DAYS, but more than they did before Frank.

This is all fantasy for me so why not? Although I can’t quite imagine them working well together. I wonder what someone trained under the lush style of the Bell shows would do with them at SB. The clash of modern storytelling and intelligent characters with lush production.

I think Kay Alden’s early years, before Jack Smith became her co-hw were the best Y&R had been since the early 90’s. But I am a huge Jill and Katherine fan, so making them major players again always works for me. The show had slightly modernized, the pace was quicker, but it was still very much Y&R.

What do we think of the pairing of Malone and Gottlieb at Y&R? That Victor Lord storyline- first the book, revisiting Dorian’s culpability, and then all Viki’s alters really fits the gothic tone Y&R often dipped into. I would think Gottlieb (or was it Bedsow-Horgan that liked the dark orchestral music) would have certainly kept the music cues going, and the lush filming style. I agree that Marland would have possibly worked too. I wish Martha Byrne would just tell her version of events when it comes to working with Goutman. When he first got there with Hogan, they gave her a second character to play! The whole show felt very Lily/Rose focused to me. Then they killed Rose off and it seemed all downhill from there. I cannot imagine Carlivati on any other soap. I think he did great things at both OLTL and GH, but both often went off the rails and felt very shallow. I keep thinking how strong all the generations of characters would have been with Alden at All My Children. Especially creating a younger set of compelling characters, which is part of the DNA of that show since Tara/Erica/Chuck/Phil days.

I think if she had arrived with Wendy it would not have worked. For Labine to work, we needed characters like Anna and Robert to be gone. Luke and Laura were larger than life, but unlike Robert and Anna their foundations were rooted in much more grounded substance, which suits her. The action became grounded. But again, Frank Smith was a blast from the past that worked. That period of time Riche was with Levinson really shaped a tone that Labine could run with. I didn’t enjoy her OLTL run overall, and for some reason I also find her misplaced on AMC. But I could imagine her work on Another World pretty easily.

Looking at the 70’s and 80’a ratings threads and seeing all those soaps got me thinking about moving talent around. I think Bob Guza would have been excellent as HW for Edge of Night (if it had been airing when he made it to the top spot). I also think of all the soaps back then the only one I can really see Gloria Monty at instead of GH is Edge. Likewise I wonder what Henry Sleasar would have been able to do with GH once we got to the WSB/Anna as police chief era. When the rumors came up back in the day I was really excited to see Wendy Riche as EP of As The World Turns, but it didn’t happen. Bill Bell turning Bold over to James Reilly might have been a real treat instead of what Brad has done. Not supernatural Jim, but his camp would fit well. He would have given Darlene Connolly fantastic material. Kay Alden’s rumored almost All My Children run could have been fun I think. She had the skills to pull off grounded material and still play larger than life characters, which is what you need to keep Erica front and center. As much as I loved Claire Labine I’m not certain where to put her. For some reason her style seems like it would have been fabulous on Another World with the characters/actors from the early 90’s.

Seeing GH with a share of 40, 39, and 39 for three weeks is incredible. Once again thank you so much to @JAS0N47your DAYS records are fascinating for all the soaps in these threads.

Jake was my favorite pairing with Bobbie. Especially after Brock. IIRC The audience knew Duke survived the explosion, and then had to watch Anna and Robin grieve him being dead. He was incredibly popular paired with Anna. Beecroft was nowhere near as charismatic as Ian. He was starting to win the audience over but I don’t think anyone bought him as Duke that well until Anna was crying over his dead body. All of a sudden he had some supporters. I’ve always heard he was difficult to work with on both GL and GH. And that second death lead us to exploring Anna’s time as a double agent, introduced Faison (who was awesome back then), and also Casey the Alien (not so awesome).

I had to edit my post because it kind of seemed to me upon re-reading that I was wishing the show would force her to loose weight, which is the last thing I would want or advocate for. They just have a history of saying things to actors about their weight before the current team. And I think @carolinegis correct that KS is playing a part in her styling. What I wish is that their wardrobe person take a chance and buy some more fashionable clothes in larger sizes and see if KS would pick any of them! I sympathize with her and Genie- I know what it is like to struggle with weight issues. And then they have the added bonus of “fans” and sometimes executives commenting about every pound. It is easier to try to hide it rather than finding flattering clothes.

I like her lip gloss. And I also like her hair color. But that’s about it. The issue for me is the show thankfully not forcing her to loose weight (which is welcome behavior compared to how they have treated actors in the past) but not styling her appropriately. There are so many cute and stylish clothes available in larger sizes now. Way more than ever before. Even if she wanted flowing clothing that is more shapeless there are better options than what the show is dressing her in.

KM has been sidelined since she deliberately tanked her reunion with Steve’s Jason because she wanted to act all day with her real life partner. Up to that point, while not as prominent as before, she was still in the mix. It’s a waste of Dante, a waste of high $ contract, and of screen time. Limited though it may be. They can’t be hanging on to her because of Dancing with the Stars after all this time! And I feel crazy for harping on this- what the hell is up with Lesley Charleson? I completely understand if she is done/ready to retire- good for her! But if the intention is to see Monica again can they comment on something?

The only time I was even remotely interested in Kenny and Ginger was during the Ciji storyline.

This was also a network and time when Maurice and Steve basically got to do what they wanted/objected to stories etc and to a lesser extent, so did Tony. If I was her and saw how the male talent was treated I would also want my voice to be heard. And yet from the outside we see how those women were treated. Jackie was sidelined, they wouldn’t meet Vanessa’s terms. Or Genie’s. And NLG was often ignored. Tried to fire Becky. SJB’s issues. I have no doubt things were terrible. When it comes to soaps and misogyny there would never be a better triangle than Frons/Guza/JFP.

It does read underwhelming, especially as integral and horrible as he had been.

If I had been watching from day 1 up until Phil was murdered I would have been rooting for Jessie to have done it!

The Ranch. Or the beach house where Gary and Abby lived before the Ranch.

Look at Diana putting the pieces together!

As rough as the Riche transition was, I personally enjoyed Ryan/Felicia/Mac, the younger set, and Scotty/Lucy/Dom more than anything during Monty’s second run. And I was a fan of Anna/Robert being paired and Faison. But Riche got in a groove and it just got better with Labine.

I don’t recall him naming Suver in later years, but he did say more than once that the original Endgame was written with his writing partner, who also wrote the return story. So they must be the same person. While the ratings had stabilized by the end of Monty’s second run, her support at the show was pretty much gone. Losing FH and TR at roughly the same time was by all accounts the final nail. Both let it be known that she had driven them out. I believe Tristan said in an interview that after the then recent passing of her husband, she just wasn’t the same. Genie refused to return, and back then Tony refused to play Luke without Laura. Imagine that compared to the end of his run! So Bill came to be. I think the younger set is what saved Riche, buying her time to be paired with a stronger writer, ABC’s suggestion of Labine. They dominated story and Antionio Sabato Jr was everywhere with his shirt off.

I need him to keep that energy when he visits. If the only repercussion she suffers is that she lost Cam as a true friend then at least we have that. I’m not saying they have to be at odds, just distant. And she should feel the responsibility for that. He should not be her biggest supporter. I wonder if this is how people felt when Karen Wexler was the center point of the teen characters in the 90’s. If you didn’t like Karen (I did), all that attention and multiple men fighting over her was annoying to watch? That’s how I feel about Joss now- Eden does a decent job. But I can’t stand Joss and I do enjoy the rest of the young set. But the show wants me to be invested in her more than the others. And I never will be.

This makes me so sad. I hope he can get himself back in recovery and get healthy.