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Does she still direct there?

I think they were so busy trying to undo any lasting damage to Ava they didn’t think about using the meds for a greater story point. Just like they all but wiped Valentin from that and Pikeman. And Maurice’s mental health decline around that story.

Disney owns Hulu and ABC and ABC produces the show themselves. It’s not going to be dropped from Hulu unless they cancel the show.

Absolutely. The entitlement is so high online for celebrities. They are sharing with the public as they choose to. It is not a two way relationship.

Sad news. He was one of those solid actors that soaps used to be full of, there to ground everything around the pretty people falling in love. He made what could have been a cliche work for years as Mike.

If the other half of that relationship wasn’t Becky it would look a little off. But they both look like it’s only been maybe a decade since the boxcar and it’s been what, 25+ years?

My heart really breaks for Deidre. Christie Clark replied to someone that she had spoken to her and that Dee was taking the news hard.

The thing I keep coming back to is as awful as being fired from a job is, especially after this much time, the central issues that started everything were that she wanted to only be paired with her offscreen partner. It has never been leaked that Burton and KeMo had a contentious working relationship. It’s not like she was trying to protect herself from a nasty costar. She just wanted to work with her boyfriend. Which is ridiculous. Many things can be true at one time. This can suck and also not be surprising as far as her performances. And Frank can be a shitty boss and still have a show to produce and talent he can depend on. And Kelly can say whatever she wants about all of it, and deserved better bts treatment. But I think the end result is the same-Sam is off the show because of multiple factors. The true crossover supervillain of ABC daytime.

Specifics as to why BM was standing up to Valentini on her behalf is really the only thing not out there. We already know he was let go and them bringing the character back made me think it was something between him and Frank or the show. KeMo was public when Jason was brought back and visibly played against a triangle story. Then both she and Steve made public comments about being different actors now and what worked before was clearly not working anymore. When BM was let go she also publicly complained. And I understand she also walked back some of those comments at private fan events because she pissed off a vocal part of her base. I do think soap actors should be able to speak up. I also think if the show is going in a direction they do not like, they have a choice to leave or do the work. Especially because what she wanted was to keep sharing scenes with her significant other. That is not a realistic complaint and demand. The problem is Frank is petty. She has phoned it in in various ways for years. He chose to punish her like he punished others. She deserves some grace through personal traumas. But he clearly stuck her in purgatory until the budget crisis the show and ABC was facing met up with plans they were making for the immediate future of the show and cut a major contract.

It is. But I think there is some merit to what he posts. I personally am tired of people like NLG, Genie, Kin and Tristan either publicly admitting they are being punished or sidelined when Valentini has kept his pals employed and frontburner until he lost some measure of power this year and they were finally let go. And I don’t think KeMo has been fully earning her check for the last 10 years, and I still think the way he handled her has been shitty. And Billy Miller is the only one that made Drew work, and he was let go because he allegedly stood up for Kelly. Maybe Martin was pinch hitting. I know it would be a lot more fun for Scotty to be telling Alexis and Molly that they should hang this on Sonny to save themselves and Kristina. This whole story would work better as a murder mystery! But nobody is allowed to think on this show beyond 30 to 60 days max! And it shows!!

We have learned those timelines are a little off now though. Jackie Zeman has said Marland created Bobbie, and she aired before January. And there was that article someone around here posted a few years ago with interviewing the former head of ABC daytime and they brought up another writer entirely for introducing the Quartermaine characters, even though none of us had ever heard of them and they were not credited. I think soap credits and the comings and goings of writers are more complicated than we understand. Guza for example was shifting things into place twice before credited as HW during a couple of his runs, months before credits. Mulcahey was fired and credited for way longer than he was actually there. Didn’t a strike interfere here too?

Oh I am well aware of how FV is putting the show together like a puzzle, it’s especially noticeable right now. I just think the details that matter to the audience and should matter to the people working on the show are not important to him. Even when you look at what Anna and Jason have been up to, Laura has a history of being involved in capers. And has a complicated history with Holly. But the way Valentini puts the show together matters more than using Laura appropriately. Speaking of Valentini- I think it is ridiculous that several characters need lawyers and instead of using Scotty, who was already involved, they have brought back Martin. Even when Diane was telling Kristina not to tell her anything because she wasn’t her lawyer, I thought Scotty being absent continues to be glaring right now. There was room for him here too, but he pisses Frank off. And get Isaiah out of that hospital bed.

It’s just bad timing. They wanted to get Lucky onscreen sooner than she was back filming. It’s stretched out because they are in a clear stall pattern. She is almost always back airing in October since her return a few years ago. As far as the rest- she hasn’t been used as much since Spencer was killed off. They shunted her off to prop up the deeply unpopular Heather story. Whatever was going to happen to pit her and Anna against Sonny was one of the things dropped when Mulcahey was fired, very abruptly. I am happy her family is back. I hope they use her heavily to help reestablish them.

I wish they had kept him younger. It was a chance to tell a story about a young gay male on an America soap that has not happened before. I wanted this all the way back to the bullying story with Charlotte. It would have been good material for the adults and the kids. Plus they could have progressed into something like Heartstopper, a sweet story that soaps have yet to tell for gay characters too. Now he looks like a more traditional hunky teen and I fear we will barely seen a story or if we do it will be same old.

That was really nice. I’m glad they weren’t in the middle of something that kept them apart.

Christie Clark’s tribute has really brought me to tears. I haven’t watched the show regularly in almost a decade. I’m sad for all the die hard fans that they have gotten this news and also the confirmation that they have seen his last airdate. For once I was hoping their insane tape date would be a blessing.

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For me, this is almost as hard as Jackie Zeman. I grew up watching these people, and in my mind they are vibrant and compelling. He may have been 70, which is still too young, and yet he is still John Black. The hero with a deep love of his family. Clearly what Drake brought to the table. It didn’t matter what the show asked him to do. Have no past, be Roman, not be Roman, suddenly a priest…it didn’t matter. He understood the assignment from supercouple machine to Reilly outrageousness to becoming the older character who advises the younger ones on all their adventures. Make it work. Make it entertaining. And make them want to keep watching. I will never forget him seeing Marlena on the pier. Or talking with little Carrie about loss. Or trying so hard to reconnect with Sami and showing that slight nod of pain that he wasn’t considered her father anymore. Or just being an absolute stud, and holding his own against some of the strongest women in the genre- Deidre, Genie, Eileen. Him wet and shirtless during Maison Blanche is one of the formative images of my gay youth.

Which could also be spoilers. I know this is real life and reel life colliding, but just reading that made me sick to my stomach on behalf of the cast/crew and viewers already in shock about Drake. Speculation is fine and natural, it’s happening everywhere. But I don’t want this thread honoring him to become all about a poster parsing out “tidbits” as tea.

I don’t doubt Kristina believes she is being sincere, of course she loves Molly and feels badly about the entire situation. I just think it doesn’t matter because it is not based in any truth. She may believe it, but until she actually admits she stopped caring about Molly and TJ and what she was doing with them and decided to keep the baby for purely selfish reasons, her sincerity means zilch. And Molly can’t give space to Kristina’s pain until the betrayal is dealt with.

What sad news. He seemed kind of invincible to me, much like the character he played. Heartbreaking for his family. He spoke about them all the time, you got the sense that he really treasured his wife and kids. As far as his work on DAYS- I thought he always rose to the challenge, no matter how ridiculous the story. He was like walking charisma. I was very young, but I remember his start and watched him as Roman. For everyone that says he wasn’t a good actor, there was a clear line in how he played both characters. His Roman was much lighter than Wayne’s was. He excelled in romantic stories, had chemistry with everyone, including the Brady family. There is a kind of magic with supercouples and he and Marlena were incredible.

It works for me (as well as anything with the two of them can work for me) because since Nixon Falls they have not really been the same. Then Nina. I buy both of them not relishing this. The truth is Kristina needs to make amends with both TJ and Molly for the betrayal, and choosing to engage with Ava. She has some culpability in the accident. She has way more amends to make for deciding after a couple of arguments between TJ/Molly that she was all of a sudden the only choice for their baby. If Molly wanted to fight dirty she could remind Kristina that she was hormonal and had a new relationship and thought that was more stable than Molly was. A relationship that ended during its first big test while she was in the hospital. Who exactly is the stable couple here? Molly calling them out for protecting Kristina from her own actions rings true to me because Kristina has done this repeatedly. She is spoiled, she is self absorbed. Always has been.

Just imagining him breaking up a Joss relationship, and having both Brenda and Carly sticking up for their kids during the fallout. They can play all the beats of him going the Brenda redemption route after it all shakes out. As far as Korte liking Anna, great. Why they have basically wasted Genie since Spencer’s death I don’t get. When you have these icons on your show, and they are well respected and can still bring it, use them. One of the things the last few months have done correctly is Alexis is back in the mix, and NLG shows she is still capable of being a central player.

That was a special occasion though. I think Carnes is ultra conservative now, and I would not want that serving a gay character in 2024. Truthfully Van looks more like the kid that grew up from the 90’s than any of the hunks cast over the last 20 years.

Agree 1000% it was the wrong way to go with that story. Her kid not being a Jax was also shortsighted by the show though. Even Ingo being gone is fine. Imagine their fabulous gay son verbally eviscerating his snotty sister, Joss.