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1 hour ago, kalbir said:

From what I've read online, Y&R began in Australia in 1974 and in New Zealand in 1977 and the episodes started from the beginning in both countries. Did the Australian broadcasts have breaks and that's how they ended up more than one year behind? 

Oh that's interesting. Y&R did often take breaks during the summer for Cricket coverage on Nine but that wouldn't account for the discrepancy as Days would have had the same breaks and yet didn't fall that much further behind (Days started in Australia in 1968 and by the mid 90s was still roughly about three years behind).

9 hours ago, yrfan1983 said:

It's labeled as 1994 but looks like that's when it aired in Australia.

Yeah that would be about correct. New Zealand was always roughly four years behind, but the Aussie soap magazines always had articles and later summaries for Y&R that suggested Australia was about six months ahead of us.

1 hour ago, j swift said:

Example #1, Frank Smith - The Smith Organization was shown to be involved in classic mob activities including money laundering and gun running.  However, Luke stole Franks's black book from his office on Founder's Day.  It does not take a legal scholar to know that stolen evidence is inadmissible at trial.  Then, Luke "decoded" the book to find gold bouillon hidden in a statue.   Correct me if I am wrong, but, while hiding gold in a statue is not a smart investment strategy, there is nothing inherently illegal about the practice.  So, how did this bring down Frank's mob?  Admittedly, Frank hired hitmen to kill Luke which would be cause for prosecution, but the stolen evidence would undoubtedly effect that case because the prosecution could not provide evidence of motive.

I think, but I'm not sure, that the black book wouldn't actually have been used as evidence in court. Rather - as the book had the names and numbers of people involved in the Smith Organization in addition to the location of the gold - once Luke had mailed the decoded portions of the book to Joe Kelly, Joe and Burt Ramsey would have been able to track down witnesses who - provided they agreed to testify voluntarily i.e they couldn't be compelled to testify - would have had enough "attenuation" for their testimony to be admissible.

I also believe that finding the gold bouillon was just a way of signalling to the rest of the organization that Frank Smith had been skimming extra amounts that they had not agreed to, thereby convincing enough witnesses to throw Frank Smith under the bus.

Disclaimer - I pieced the above speculation together from the scant recaps of that time (curlyqgrl) and a quick wiki search of articles such as "Exclusionary rule" and "Fruit of the poisonous tree" so have no idea whether I am truly correct lol

31 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

That dinner party scene isn't on YouTube, is it? It sounds awesome!

It is! Here are the scenes

First part from 2:42 - Peter Hansen does some great facial acting here, showing Lee's contempt for the Webbers and Laura.

Second part of the dinner party starts at the beginning of the clip. As an added bonus, Rick and Lesley later have an intimate conversation at Kelly's - with Monica seated at a nearby table!

1 hour ago, Franko said:

The impression I got regarding Lee and Gail attending Luke & Laura's wedding was that it was out of gratitude for the whole saving the world thing, followed by social obligation, with personal regards for the happy couple lower down the line.

@j swift yes it's what Franko says above and also there was the incident where Lee fell off the wagon and burned the divorce papers, which Lee was very apologetic for.

One thing that is also interesting is that Lee and Gail weren't on speaking terms with Rick and Lesley for the best part of a year and at one point Steve and Audrey tried to intervene by luring both couples (well Rick and Lesley weren't actually back together yet) to a dinner party that didn;t go down to well lol.

On 10/5/2021 at 1:57 PM, beebs said:

NO! I NEVER realized. Hahah, I just learned something!

ETA: Missed Natalie/Holly in the earlier post, but also Delta, following the Neighbours train:

 

Delta Goodrem is interesting because there was that whole period where Neighbours devoted itself to promoting Delta's debut album.

I'm not complaining though, it worked for Delta and Neighbours and the songs were good

1 hour ago, Vee said:

Guza and co. though didn't fully realize what they had in DZ and JJ together. They could've run the show, period. It was the future and they let it walk.

Oh definitely.

1 hour ago, carolineg said:

I think pushing Dante/DZ too much too soon didn't help.  DZ/Dante were great, but there was a time Dante was EVERYWHERE and even I got sick of him. 

I think, in particular, the straw that broke the camel's back for me was Dante having known Brenda years before. That was a bit too much. But up until then, I liked the show's focus on him.

11 hours ago, Nicholas Blair said:

 

Thanks for the timeline info. The fact that Agnes Nixon recycled the LSD story on OLTL so closely makes me wonder if this was one of her stories.

I believe it was. Lee was drugged with the LSD in January 1968;  the ramifications played out for the rest of the year, then carried well into the following year even after Nixon left. And then as has been mentioned Lee was killed off in May 1969.

4 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Same goes for the Danny Fargo saga, and how Liz was able to help Walter send Missy to prison for his murder. 

Oh I loved reading about the Danny Fargo saga.

15 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Remember there were only a few scenes per 15 min episode,so Marge and Stu talking about something and Patti sharing scenes with her grandmother could fill a show without Jo onscreen.

Heck, in such a scenario they all probably just talked about Jo for 15 minutes.

18 hours ago, Nicholas Blair said:

Of course, Cindy was the sister of Ted Clark (Stephen Bolster), the ex-con whom Rachel had impulsively married. I'm hazy on whether Margaret Impert was the Rachel who married him or if Robin Strasser had returned by then. Impert was the Strasser lookalike who was hired on the apparent hope that no one would notice the difference. We did, however. Margaret Impert was a competent actress, sweet and gentle--in other words, not Rachel.

Rachel and Ted were married on July 6, 1971 (according to AWHP) so Rachel actually married Ted during Robin Strasser's first run.

And yes it was an impulsive marriage, their courtship literally played out over the course of just two weeks!

8 minutes ago, lophil87 said:

Greetings! First time poster! I just stumbled onto this behind the scenes video from 1974!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6QJuCXML4w

I wish that we could hear it! The woman seemed really sweet, especially when she was crying at the end!

Can anyone identify all the actors, apart from what appear to be the woman's two children? I recognize Valerie Starrett, Emily McLaughlin, John Beradino, Denise Alexander and Craig Huebing.

Oh thanks for this!

You know, this is probably the first time I've seen what the Pre-Monty GH set looks like in color.

And we're back to the Sonny Show...

I thought this was funny, appears to be a new TikTok dance surrounding the EastEnders theme song

EDIT and this appears to be the original...

7 minutes ago, Vee said:

Horton what?

Oh yes, it's the Horton cabin on Smith Island, my mistake.

"I SAW YOU!"

September 10, 1993 & September 13, 1993

Begins at roughly 40:39 in the first clip and carries on through the second.

WARNING: both clips are interspersed with barf inducing clips of John and Kristen but the Marlena and Sami drama is lit

First clip:

Second clip:

I don't know if you are ok with spoilers (I kinda assume you are from your post but it's always good to check) so I'll just put some key dates to give you an idea how long it lasted.

If you want I can give you a more detailed timeline with lots of spoilers in another post.

November 16, 1994 - the beginning of the "Queen of the night" storyline, the prologue for the possession storyline.

December 2, 1994 - the beginning of the Desecrator storyline, a major subplot of the possesion storyline.

December 23, 1994 - The possession fully kicks off

May 30, 1995 - The exorcism begins.

July 5, 1995 - clip show of the possession lol

July 18, 1995 - The possession ends.

so from November (or December, depending on your preference) right through until July. It was very long lol.

EDIT: should add that I got these dates from Bethsdayspage which still exists via the internet archive wayback machine.

I much preferred the scenes where the MarDevil is out and about (once we get to the exorcism it's just weeks and weeks of Marlena's penthouse bedroom lol).

My favourite mini arc from the possession is the one that starts on Horton Island (EDIT: Horton cabin on Smith island) and goes on from there for several episodes.

10 hours ago, KMan101 said:

Scotty's disdain for Sonny is everything.

I was hoping Scotty would mention what Sonny did to Karen, but of course the writers would never go there again.

14 hours ago, carolineg said:

I think Eric was going to be gay and that backed out for sure.  To me it was pretty obvious with the male gloved hand following him around when it turned out to be no big deal at all (an ex-girlfriend or something?).  It really seemed like that's wear it was heading and the show just backed out last minute because the end of that was so anti-climatic I can't even recall it.

A friend of Eric's had been raped back in Colorado and both Eric and another friend of Eric's - Jed - were both suspected of the crime. It was Jed who followed Eric around Salem and when confronted, Jed tried to make out Eric was the rapist. But Eric managed to finally get Jed to admit that he'd done it and return to Colorado to face the music.

10 hours ago, titan1978 said:

it felt like people spent entire episodes talking to themselves out loud and being interrupted by the person they were talking about- and a cliffhanger established if they heard them.  In several stories, in every episode.  I found with Passions he really leaned into the style of writing he was using towards the end of his DAYS run, it wasn’t for me.  This is the same guy that wrote grittty and emotional stuff up through the possession.  It’s like he got a personality transplant.

I actually noticed some of those things happening as early as the acid storyline with Carrie and Austin in '93 (when JER first kept them apart for a year and it was Lucas rather than Sami that was the main villian in their storyline). But it was fairly limited to just Carrie and Austin at first (and those in their circle, such as Sami and Lucas). All of the other storylines didn't seem to have that problem. By the end of possession it had spread to everyone.

Here's an interview with JER, not the one Vee mentions, but he does talk about "The affair", why Victor was put on the backburner and suffered a stroke, why it took so long to give Mike a story and why it took so long for Eric to be introduced. Also talks about the then unnamed Passions.

https://www.serialscoop.com/2016/04/flashback-days-of-our-lives-head-writer.html

https://thespinoff.co.nz/tv/28-09-2021/shortland-street-is-in-a-race-against-time/

Definitely cutting it a bit fine this time; during the last level 4 lockdown (March - April 2020) - when production was also suspended - the show was trimmed down to three episodes a week. The other Auckland lockdowns (August 2020, February 2020 and March 2020) were all only Level three so production was able to continue.

Here's a couple of scenes with mostly background music and little dialogue from when Bo chases The Dragon across London (like the actual real London, not a set lol)

Since this thread is about background music, discussion should be limited to the music in the scene here but I've also posted this in DAYS behind the scenes, articles/photos for people who may want to discuss the scene itself.

I just found this and I absolutely adore it lol

11 hours ago, DRW50 said:

This was  Hope and John on an island adventure to find a rare orchid to cure Roman. Kristen insisted she knew the cure and was trying to barter her freedom or something, I think...? I remember reading about a scene where John and Hope come across one of Stefano's shrines to Marlena and are very disturbed. If anyone has that scene I'd be curious to see it.

Here you go 15 minutes in.

10 minutes ago, FrenchBug82 said:

OK I stand corrected. Can't believe I completely wiped that out of my memory.
I didn't remember that they did get together and leave together.
Which says something about either me getting old or the quality of the payoff. Or both.

Probably because Mike left the show on his own and Carrie stuck around for a few more months. Then when it was time to leave Mike came back (on a horse I think?) and whisked Carrie off to Israel.

I did like some of the 97/98 stuff because I felt the show was finally opening up a bit more after years of the show feeling somewhat insular. The major storylines of the Reilly era finally had payoff and there were some new character combinations to look forward to. Sami/Franco was an interesting pairing and Nicole was also interesting as basically the first majorly successful post-Reilly character.

Unfortunately the rest of 98 dragged on and on. Being a few years behind in NZ (a fact that I probably don't mention enough) meant that I knew what was coming and I wasn't interested in sitting through a year of Hope as Princess Gina. The Salem High gang didn't pique my interest all that much either so I never really came back to the show until the Salem Stalker era (but had watched here and there). And then the show was yanked off the airwaves during Melaswen, by which time I had lost interest again anyway.