DRW50
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The Avengers used to have close friendships back when I read their comics, but I haven't read much of them past the late '80s/early '90s.
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They are clearly banking on Trump winning and are terrified of alienating him. And they have missed him every single day. I don't know why anyone sits through that propaganda network.
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Thanks @JAS0N47 for the DAYS info. I haven't watched any of that material in a long time but everything with Ali and her mother was so dark. Marla really knew how to play into those elements.
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6 hours ago, Vee said:
They've nailed it - Patrick Mulcahey has come back to bring the Women Talking ethos to GH.
It's kind of amusing to me because some of the tweets amount to - these women could be models or running magazines or running art galleries and look at what they're doing instead, they're taking women back to the '50s. All of those careers are also very dated for women, if that's the complaint. That's a genre wide concern and not down to the new/old writers.
I wish people could just say "They don't know what to do with Sasha, she's a flop," instead of trying to spin the choices as misogyny.
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7 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:
Slightly off topic - but when PFS came back to DAYS in 1981, NBC ran a commercial promo about “having the writer from GH now!” I wish that was still up, and why did no one bother to tell NBC PFS started at DAYS?
Oh, here it is. How tacky:
If they were going for that approach you'd think it would make more sense to say, "We had her first."
Still, it was probably a more successful ad campaign than those "I made the switch" ads in 1986.
19 minutes ago, vetsoapfan said:I know, and I consider that to be a major shame. With the glaring exception of Ryan's Hope, I found Pat Falken Smith's material upon assuming the writing duties to be exceptionally good.
God only knows why her RH stint was so...tepid. I wonder if it came down to tepid production values and network interference at the time.
It's a shame she didn't last long at GL, for whatever reason.
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1 minute ago, vetsoapfan said:
I found 1982 to be fascinating, with Pat Falken Smith's short tenure a breath of fresh air. She hit the ground running. It was clear she had studied the history of the series and had an understanding of the characters. I was relieved to see that the show would be in capable ands after Marland's departure, just as General Hospital had been when PFS assumed the writing reigns after DM left.
Sadly, I don't know if any of her episodes are available to watch, aside from Quint and Nola clips.
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I haven't been a big Survivor fan in a long time, but I remember Sonja fondly.
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Is it anything new for other characters to call out Sonny? Calling out Jason is more of a rarity. All the way back to Guza, Sonny could be dragged, but it's mostly a smokescreen.
I'm more interested in some of the responses to Sasha becoming the Q cook (mainly the fans who think the show is through Trina and Sasha trying to subjugate women) than I am in the story itself.
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Heartbreaking. I am sorry that what may have been her best work (Belle on Secret Storm) is all gone, but her work as Dina Mergeron was fascinating. In many ways Dina was an unsympathetic character, but Marla always gave her layers, and stood tall against actors who were extremely talented and extremely charismatic.
I remember that clip that used to be on Youtube of Dina going to the Abbott home, getting into it with Mamie, and THEN getting into it with Jill. No catfights, all class, all shade, and all ice. A delirious viewing experience.
When I heard of Ashley's current story, I wished that they had kept Dina around to play a part in it, but now I see they made the right decision.
Even if I didn't follow most of her last story, I did see the end, which felt moving due to the work of those involved. Compared to how a number of soap legends were treated, Marla got to leave on a high.
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Someone here recommended The Class to me a few years ago and it was well worth the watch.
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I can't really speak as I have only seen scattered episodes, but based on how moribund most of 1982 feels to me in those episodes (and frankly, a good portion of the Marland era I've seen in the scattered episodes), I can see how early Long/Kobe would have felt like a burst of energy.
I'm reminded of what happened when JFP took over OLTL in early 1998 after years of the show feeling lethargic. That also ended up being a disaster in the long run, probably even more than Kobe/Long.
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Pathetic.
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I can definitely see the resemblance.
All those guys and gals who were crushing on them in their CW years can be happy.
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@Vee Thanks. Their reaction to this all day has been defensive, petulant, and deluded - their only real personality traits these days. That paper has rotted away for a long time now, which is why Biden was comfortable shutting them out in the first place. And you can tell they feel their relevance fading and can't handle it. They would sell every family member they have to get Trump back in power because they think he can save them, and because they were fond of him on a personal level. One of the many reasons I hope Biden wins is to shut down the power of these publications once and for all, but no matter who wins, they are in their last few years.
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24 minutes ago, Vee said:
I think that was still what Frank tried for after she got paired with Spencer, lol. He was only somewhat successful.
Regardless, Trina's love interest just got written off dramatically and the show is undergoing a writing change. The character is going to be recalibrated and yes, sometimes on less whenever something like that happens. I'm not going to assume the worst just yet. Especially since elements of the fanbase are wildly unrealistic if they expect a) Spencer to be recast immediately or b) Chavez to return ASAP and play out a reunion. Neither is likely to happen any time soon. it also remains to be seen if
I think that position is valid. It's more the show's history (or any soap's history) of heavy airtime after one half of a popular pairing goes compared to Trina's airtime, and also the tone of the writing that I can understand getting a negative response. I also think the decision to repeatedly have her show up to apologize or to sit for Ace while Laura spends a lot of time doing prop duty for lunatic characters we are meant to feel sorry for (Cyrus, Heather) hurts the setup that should have been there with the characters.
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38 minutes ago, John said:
Trina knows she never made Spencer chose between her and Ace. Trina is playong the WHAT IF game. We all do it when people we love die.
I think one of the problems with the framing for Trina is she has limited POV and screentime so those nuances are lost in the writing. Any fan of a character can be entitled, but I am not surprised that her fans seem to think she is being minimized or put into "safe" roles, especially as that was likely the only plan for the character before the pairing with Spencer took off.
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Thanks to both of you for the extra info.
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7 minutes ago, Xanthe said:
Perhaps Australia was exporting rather than America importing.
Probably both. I assume someone at ABC was a big fan of Heartbreak High.
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The usual NYT projecting and condescending moments. I loathe that they simultaneously chide Democrats for thinking Biden might win even as they bend over backwards to remind us of how well Trump is doing. I don't know any Democrats who are blithely assuming Biden is going to win - whether you believe the polls are not, they are very clear in most of their narrative, enough to cause angst galore.
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On 4/19/2024 at 2:48 PM, janea4old said:
Preview for week of April 22:
@DaytimeFan @Khan I am convinced Eileen took inspiration from that time Angela Lansbury played Jessica as a barfly.
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On 4/22/2024 at 2:02 PM, Xanthe said:
Another World had Carmen Duncan and Julian McMahon in the 90s. (I do not mention Joy Bell because I am not aware of any other soap credits for her.)
ABC also made a run in the mid '90s with Corey Page, Ingo Rademacher and Vince Poletto. I suppose this was another case of the ABC-ification of CBS.
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Guiding Light discussion thread
in DTS: Cancelled Soaps
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I remember around September-November 1996 that talk reached fever pitch, with B&B introducing a new family. Then we heard it wasn't going to happen. Even if a lot of the show was hollowed out by that point I'm still glad it survived a bit longer.
I think Rebecca faced some of the same problems of actresses like Beverly Penberthy - too classy and understated for an increasingly histrionic genre. I also wonder if it's because she was the one Lewis who was not emotionally volatile. Even Long didn't seem to do that much with her - maybe because that just wasn't her type of woman.