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This is why all the stuff about how Trump was going to give up on the border wall never meant anything to me - he was never going to give up. He just needed a push to go back to his basest instincts. And he knows the media and the GOP and their money machine will push this as brave and why are Democrats helping illegals and so on and so forth.

Democrats weren't supposed to lose in 2016 either. The media and the money men would love to see them lose, and I imagine that "activists" like AOC would as well. She craves media attention and validation - like her pal Bernie, she's an opportunist. Sadly many liberals are more than happy to use her as their avatar, likely because most of them also hate the party and hate actually doing real work to change it.

I remember the show getting a lot of criticism as well, especially the first season. I'm not sure what a reboot would get. RTD's last gay show, Banana/Cucumber/whatever, got a ton of backlash.

I see that Ken Starr is doing the rounds of cable news. Someone in the media must really be scared there will be an impeachment to wheel him out. What a surprise he's getting the red carpet.

Does the original article mean to imply the UK version wasn't successful by saying it only ran 10 episodes? That's not how it works over there. I grew to enjoy the US version, but I do know times change. I just don't know why they need to have a reboot. Why not just a brand new show? And why is this on Bravo, a network that treats gay men like purses, not human beings?

I saw that it was mentioned in another thread but I didn't catch it and just saw an article today. Philip Bosco passed away earlier this month. He was in many different works but I remember him best as Sam's "father," Elliot, who popped up in 1994 and 1995. I really loved that character, and Bosco worked so well with Brooke Alexander. He was one of the guest actors, like Jenny O'Hara and Claire Bloom, who kept me interested in ATWT when the writing by that point often did not. https://www.welovesoaps.net/2018/12/philip-bosco-dead-at-88.html

Thanks. I keep forgetting the site is still up.

That Patreon story is interesting. This happens again and again with far-right extremists. They always say terrible things, get booted, cry censorship, and get more money coming in while becoming even more extreme. Dave Rubin used to be with the Young Turks, and then presumably left because he saw there was more money in claiming to be too oppressed by attacks on free speech from out of control liberals. It will be interesting to see what he does now that the money is drying up.

A brief glimpse of the opening credits around 8 minutes in. This may be the closest we ever get to any actual footage...

I've kind of given up hope on these old uploads having any actual scenes and not just credits, but this one has a view of Monticello that I never remember seeing in any other credits. Do you remember this @vetsoapfan ? It's at about 41 minutes.

I wonder if that might warrant a pop-in on The OC or if it's too little too late.

Good! The more we have heard about this the worse it got.

Where did you get the memo that only gay men have anything to say about him? I may be wrong, but I think the person who posted about him was a woman (if I'm wrong, my apologies). Are you only happy to oppose gay men who don't like him? Do women get a pass?

They both look familiar to me - I keep thinking I saw the review woman on a soap, like ATWT.

Does anyone know who the woman at 56 minutes is, and the first woman who "reviews" Scent of a Woman?

I don't think Bull has been the hit that CBS was hoping for. This may just give them cover to can it.

Looking back I kind of wish they actually had killed Kirk off in 1995 after he married Sam, knowing what was to come. I remember Nancy had a brief interview in a soap magazine then, SPW (I think she did, anyway - I think she watched some soap) but I don't know where I would have put the scan. That is the first time I've watched anything of that era in many years. Just ugh. Nice to see her though.

Starts at about 34 minutes and again at 45 minutes.

Nancy Wilson, who sang on ATWT in 1997, has passed away.

I had to laugh when I saw people claiming ABC was doing this solely to spite Roseanne Barr and to prove a point. Do they think ABC would keep a show on the air just out of spite? Sadly a lot of idiots do believe these types of things.

I think Johnson is pretty much done. Gove is more of a question - he's glomming onto May now which might help him. There are people objectively worse than May, but I think she has enabled them to get them this far, so it's a very warped chicken and egg syndrome.

The threshold was much tougher for Thatcher than for May, as they changed the rules after Thatcher's time as PM. Apparently May implied that she would not run for another term as PM, so that may have made some in her party who are sick of her decide to support her. Given how craven she is I wonder if she will keep her word. The media is in the tank for the Tories and have repeatedly tried to spin her never-ending can-kicking and dithering as signs of being a strong woman.

I was thrilled, and shocked! I have had no real use for the show the last few years but I'm glad they are reconnecting to their history, their real history, after bastardizing it so badly with things like the Gavin fiasco. Mary and Lofty were two of my favorite characters of their era and it will be great to see them back. It also mean that the Michelle recast can be even more consigned to the bin.