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I think that's why he is trying so hard to convince everyone the election was stolen from him, but I guess it's too soon to say at this point. I hope I never have to see or hear from him again.

DeVos and her war profiteering brother should be fully investigated. Sadly that is not likely. As for Trump 2024, that would be a fast way for him to get cash to help pay his debts, and to continue to be in the spotlight. Based on how obese and drugged up he seems to be, I don't think he will last to 2024, but he won't be going away anytime soon.

I think McCaskill was a very adroit politician who held on as long as she could, and I'm sorry she lost. It's just that I am always very concerned about any electoral argument that essentially says white conservative Democrats sacrificed their power so that "others" could have a chance. The image of Ma and Pa Joad being led astray because of gays, trans people, or women who don't want to be sent to prison for buying birth control is classic Republican framing, and she is being paid handsomely to spread that to millions of viewers at a time when the courts are lined with people who are more than happy to execute her vision. It's dehumanizing and dangerous. The irony is that many Bernie supporters share her view, which just shows you the toxicity of the horseshoe theory.

Looks like Perdue is under 50%, which is huge. I know a lot of people hate Ossoff, for some reason, but he'd be a very good senator and I hope he can turn things around in the runoff, along with Warnock. Runoffs don't usually go well for Democrats in Georgia, but the results show this isn't a normal year. If Stacey Abrams is involved there's a pretty good chance at something happening.

That's based on exit polling, which is unreliable and often outright dangerous. I do think that Trump expanded his support among minorities, in large part because Trumpism is a cult, not a party or ideology, and cults tend to bleed more colors. With that said, I think the immediate lunge toward lashing out at wide swathes of voters who in large part actually did support Biden and downticket Democrats is the type of peacocking and righteous outrage Olympics that helps to further splinter an already very splintered party. The New York Times pays Charles Blow to tell readers that all white gay people are untrustworthy - what are you meant to do with that? Then you have the problems with Hispanic support that were looming all year, but were ignored, yet instead of a deeper fix into these concerns I just see people saying Hispanics only support dictators, or Hispanics hate themselves, and so on. This is not the time for generalizations, but that is all social media gives you.

I remember some of the shilling from Sherman about the stimulus, although that was media-wide (GOP stooge Wolf Blitzer was especially abhorrent). His giddiness is truly pathetic and demeaning of his position, and hell, even of Politico, which does have some talented people. I saw a clip of him on Morning Joe and he and the others were smirking and giggling away over Republicans winning seats. Mika was doing her usual smirk that I am never sure is down to plastic surgery gone wrong or just the constant idea that she is better than she really is, and Joe continues to look like a sunburnt corn husk. They're both disgusting human beings who were key in getting Trump into the White House and are a great example of why MSNBC is such garbage. Anyway:

Like clockwork, the media and pundits, including one who ran on abortion to keep her seat, remind us that we need to be thrown under the bus.

After all the jeering about Biden calling a lid, Trump doing so is hilarious. It's 58K now.

The logic for Arizona with the Trump people is he was doing well with the current vote and that will mean 10-30K win in the end. We'll see whether that is true. I'm hoping Georgia may pull it out in the end, but I know that's a tall order. Whatever happens there, Stacey Abrams - who was viciously attacked for months by the horseshore brigade and Trump cultists - has more than earned a key role in the party's future.

@Khanthere's nothing wrong with feeling discouraged. As Gwyneth Alden once said, we took the armor off our hearts, and we let hope come in. The good thing is that, unlike Gwyneth, Amelia Heinle cannot actually kill us, even if some of her Y&R work suggests otherwise.

Trump is the ugly, fat face of a longstanding problem. I grew up seeing the Clinton Death List hysterics and Rush Limbaugh calling Chelsea Clinton a dog on national television. Then I had to see the 2004 campaign which ran on laws that would have meant gay couples could not even have hospital visitation rights, alongside vicious smear campaigns against Vietnam veterans, including a 2002 series of ads which would morph the faces of veterans into terrorists. And of course the Iraq invasion, which got to the point where we were so desperate to bully other countries for not supporting our warmongering that we could no longer even use the term "French fries." I think Obama's electoral success masked just how desiccated much of America is.

Sorry, didn't mean to post this right after the above as it feels like I'm trying to bring good news down. It is good news for the White House...this tweet thread is about how bad it is on the state level. The best to hope for is the gerrymanders still don't hold up enough, as they didn't in 2006 or 2018.

I have a feeling AOC won't be running again, based on her recent Vanity Fair interview. (although I don't think she will be primarying Schumer either - she would lose badly and also burn all the bridges she clearly wants to build in DC). That's a very moving clip. Thanks @Vee . One of the reasons that the right focus so much on shaming and smearing anyone who wants to talk about the sins of America is because they know that if we can never properly look back, we can't look forward. I just hope the Democrats can figure out how to connect more with the Hispanic vote, in a way beyond saying "but Julian Castro" or speaking Spanish, and without going along with those like certain Bernie supporters who spent a great deal of time and energy pitting black voters against Hispanic voters.

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Leftists are right about a few things, one of them being that it doesn't matter how moderate a Democrat claims to be, many will still see them as a socialist. That doesn't mean I think Bernie was a better choice than Biden (I think Biden was one of the very, very, very few Democrats who could have won against Trump [if he wins]), but in places like Staten Island, Oklahoma, South Carolina, rural districts of Minnesota, etc. it wouldn't have mattered if Zombie Reagan was the House Speaker. There are some places that were going to be difficult to hold in an election year, especially against a figure like Trump who is beloved by many in these areas. I do think House Democrats bought into their own polling too much and got too overconfident, which, again, Biden's campaign people never did. Another thing I find myself agreeing with more and more with some on the left about is the establishment Democrats who are addicted to being in tears over how powerless they are. I cringed all the way through a long tweet thread a little while ago with Paul Krugman basically going on about how Biden winning was meaningless. So many people sacrificed their money, their time, their mental health, and potentially their lives to make this happen. That type of talk, especially from privileged people, makes me just say kiss my ass.

@Veethat did make me laugh. So did this: (I'm not fond of third parties but I actually do think Jorgensen helped a bit this year...)

Republicans are claiming they will win Arizona by 10-30K. Hopefully that isn't the case, although they seemed to be right yesterday about GA (not done yet I know), NC and FL, so I can't write them off, much as I want to...

That's great @Faulkner. It's a lovely flag. Enraging. DeJoy should be locked up.

I hope so. I'm very frightened for what will happen to this country without another stimulus. Anyway...

McConnell is already well-compensated and has no reason to work with Democrats on anything IMO, but yes, hopefully they will be able to stop Graham from basically sucking up endless media oxygen with fruitless investigations against Biden and his son. Maybe for once his never-ending need for validation and love will find another outlet with his "daddy" leaving office (if he goes). It looks like Gary Peters is going to hold on, barring a shift, so that's good news at least. He was always the danger spot (poor Doug Jones had no chance). Off topic, but while I have issues with Ilhan Omar (mainly due to her apparent grifting) I do have to give her some credit for the MN victory. She had people going out campaigning in person even when the official campaign word was not to do so. That probably added a few points at least.

+17 and +11 were always ludicrous. The main problem is that so many polls, everywhere, showed much tighter races up and down the ballot. This is the third straight election to have polls that were off. I think that this county no longer has enough trust to be honest with pollsters. I also think that in Trump's case, while the "shy Trump" voter is overblown (many are loud and virulent in their support), there are many people who find him repulsive but still vote for him because of religious reasons, or taxes, or racism. They wouldn't admit this. The other problem is that we see Democrats still don't have a proper national strategy to be able to have a dominant bulwark like the GOP does. The losses in the House make that clear. And I don't know what they can do, as the GOP has the institutions, along with the easy appeal of racism and bigotry, on their side. Democrats, if Biden wins, were able to cobble together a patchwork of voters who may not be there for anyone else, or against anyone else but Trump, especially if Hispanic voters continue to move away from the party. Part of the losses are down to people buying McConnell's lies and spin about the stimulus (and good luck getting one of those now, you dumbasses out there), but there is also just a lack of strength and solid planning through the leadership, especially on the Senate side. There's also the usual media games (the Playbook in Politico was reporting on news this morning and showed a few headlines that were clearly salivating over Trump's strength and showing Democrats what's what, etc.). As long as Democrats do not have more media say in this country, we will continue to see the GOP have an advantage on every level.

I'm interested in seeing if Maree talks about the circumstances of her exit.