All My Shadows

I feel as though Angie Dickinson as Krystle would have been a bit stronger in regards to her interactions with Blake and Alexis. Not that LE was always a weak flower - lord knows she played Krystle's growing strength against Alexis wonderfully - but I'm not sure Blake would have been able to boss around AD the way he did LE. Linda always seemed a little bit older than she actually was. She was in her very late 30s at the start of the show but easily played 5-10 years older. I think the number one thing that they have to get right as far as ages are concerned is that Alexis and Blake were much more closer in age than Blake and Krystle were, BUT the Alexis/Krystle feud was never about Krystle being younger.

Sean Connery and Roger Moore are both older than Joan flipping Collins. Please.

I'm pretty sure the "Sam" character played by Rafael de la Fuente is actually the new, male Sammy Jo(e). At least that's what The Futon Critic has, and it makes sense from the character description in the article SFK originally posted: "a cute schemer who has a one-night stand with Steven." Also, based on ethnicity, I'm assuming he'll also be related to Krystle. Not sure how I feel about it quite yet, but I think it's a positive sign for those who were worried that they would downplay Steven's sexuality.

If he's not our Steven, then I want Kevin Schmidt from Y&R.

Who's the young guy with Andrea Evans? OLTL had so many kids running around at the end, I forget some of them even existed. Or is that a family member of hers? I'm always looking for what happened to random soap kids from the last 5-10 years of the genre to see what they look like now. Mick Hazen (ATWT's Parker) is looking fine as hell at nearly 24. Didn't realize he's only barely 3 years younger than I.

I feel as though what might happen will be worse - they could just skip the episode altogether and pick up with the next regular-length episode.

Right, I barely even recognized him. I hope his character doesn't go the way of Ted Dinard.

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I wonder if they'll even go there with Adam and Amanda. If they're aging the characters down (even if only aesthetically speaking), then four adult or young adult children might be too much for Blake and Alexis, plus I would imagine they're downsizing the cast. Spoiled rotten Fallon and pissy gay Steven would be enough.

Grant Show is 55. Just let that sink in, y'all. Let. That. Sink. In. People born in 1962 are now turning fifty-damn-five. Time, slow ya roll! First thought that comes to mind for Alexis is Miriam Shor, who co-stared with GS on the short-lived 70s period piece Swingtown back in '08. I think she's on one of TVLand's things right now.

MeTV used that pic on their website in a "Do you know this old cancelled soap?" game. It took me way longer than it should have to guess Doctors because outside of Matt, Maggie, Steve, and Mona, I don't think ANY of those people were on the show just five years earlier, and Jada Rowland doesn't count. I'm still keeping up with the reruns, slowly but surely, but I know it's gonna be pretty painful to watch it transform from a pretty consistent show from 1967 to 1976ish and then change drastically. I hope Retro keeps it around long enough for us to see.

The second I found out I'll Be Your Everything was #1 the week I was born, the song has always made me feel all tingly inside. Just that good, pure, innocent early 90s love. RIP to him, and I wish peace for his family.

Yaaaaaaasssssssss!!!!!!!!!! This show is just classic sitcom, and I love it. This is something that could (and should) easily be played to death in reruns on some cable network or syndication, and I mean that in a good way.

I actually think Grant Show is perfect for the role. I hadn't given much thought towards who I'd cast for this, but if I had, he would've probably come up at some point.

Nicole was the one involved with Peter de Vilbis, no? I agree that Fallon was boring after season one. I remember being so excited to see her and experience the character when I watched the show for the first time, but once Alexis came in, there was really nothing left for Fallon to do, which wasn't really a huge loss because the cattiness between Alexis and Krystle blew the doors off of the slight Krystle/Fallon feud. Which I know everyone likes to say they love "subtle" Dynasty, but let's be real here.

Nice assessment, Carl! The show gets better with each episode, and each of the things you say you like about it become even more pronounced. Alex is indeed very generic in the beginning, but give it a few episodes, and you'll see that even he has a place beyond just being kid filler. Rita Moreno's gonna make a run for your heart in several episodes.

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................................................................ I'm aware of that, dear, but I was referring to the hyperbole that was obviously meant to imply that Dynasty had an abnormally large cast. Please don't condescend me, especially when your assumption is incorrect

Are you referring to the first season only, or the entire series? The first season had a main cast of 9 - Dallas and Knots Landing both began with 8. In regards to the entire series, all of the primetime soaps had huge casts. Dynasty was the only one that made it a point to credit every regular, recurring, and major guest characters in the opening credits. The others had no problem crediting significant recurring characters at the closing or under the first act of the show. Mary Crosby literally shot JR and was never more than an "Also Starring," but on Dynasty, she would have had her own innuendo-laden spot in the opening.

I asked these same questions re: ODAAT just several months ago. They produced a damn good show, though, so I'm rolling with it, but those questions still remain. Will this group inspire the same level of "Oh well, IDK why they did it this way, but I'm glad they're doing it"? Maybe so, probably not. Y'all know I like to wait and see.

To your first point, I think it's neither here nor there. For whatever reason, it's the zeitgeist. A year ago, they were talking about bringing Coach back, of all shows, so literally nothing is out of the question. Hell, even our very own AMC and OLTL, in their online forms, could be considered part of the trend. To your second point, the misconception, to me, seems to be that this is going be either a direct remake or will be heavily influenced by the original series. The fact that it's on The CW and will be geared towards a younger audience all but confirms that this won't be the Dynasty that is beloved by nostalgia freaks and gay men, which is also why I think those particular groups (of which I proudly belong to both - notice I left out "Reagan-era" :lol:) will be disappointed no matter how this turns out unless they're also interested in current young adult dramas. My thing with remakes has always been that if the show has the same feel, then it's a go. The new ODAAT is the first remake in a looooooooong time (outside of something like the latest Pyramid revival) that has passed that test for me, and I was one of the ones who questioned its existence when it was first released. They changed the ethnicity of the three central characters, merged two of the original's characters into one (nuODAAT's Alex is definitely a combo of Barbara and original Alex), changed all but two of the characters' first names, changed the setting, etc, yet every single episode still had the feeling of the original series. That type of thing takes a lot of care, planning, and passion, so it rarely happens, and odds are it most likely won't happen here either, but it can definitely be done. And perhaps the key is completely overhauling - going more for "reimagining" than "remake."

I don't think the Shapiros ever compared the show to I, Claudius - they were hoping to adapt the story to a contemporary setting. Once this was paired with ABC and Spelling's desire to have their own Dallas, Dynasty was born. The thing is, people can down talk the show as much as they want to, but it still stands as one of the most widely viewed series in the history of television. It shouldn't be a shock that this is happening, especially considering we've already had a TV movie about the making of the series, several reunion specials, and now-outdated rumors of feature film adaptations. It was only a matter of time. I think the fundamental changes they're making are a direct reflection of their realization that they can't just ape the original series. IDK, maybe it's because I was so impressed with Netflix's One Day at a Time that I'm mildly optimistic about this.

All y'all talking about the need for the characters to be WASPs have never known black people who are bourgie as fck? It's exactly the same thing.

I dropped the show last month - through no fault of its own, just because I'm always lacking time to watch stuff these days, but I binged a few episodes this evening, and I'm still in love. Just when you think it's a silly, light-weight comedy, they get you in the feels. The episode with Alex interviewing Abuelita to get info on her youth in Cuba was so beautifully done, and of course, you have the other plot with Elena's discomfort accepting an honor on the basis of her ethnicity. I just can't get over how well they integrate real issues without it feeling forced at all. The relationships between the characters are great. Schneider and Dr. Berkowitz feel like they belong now. The bond between Abuelita and Alex is sweet, and Alex has yet to be annoying or precocious. Elena's weirdness is layered, and I'm so glad the cute baseball player was legitimately interested in her and not there to play a stereotypical fckboy role. They're just hitting it out of the park in such an unassuming way.

I wish TV themes were fun again...