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The Guiding Light 1953

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-1/1/53-1/30/53. Bill is worried about losing his job. Joe threatens Kathy that he’ll tell Dick the truth if she doesn’t. Joey starts dating Lois. Kathy begs Don Crane not to write about what he knows. Meta tries to persuade Kathy to tell Dick the truth. Bill tells Bert he got an offer to work for Gloria’s TV program and Bert says if he takes it that she’ll take Michael and leave him. Joey leaves for military school. The police have reopened the inquiry into Bob’s death and come to take Kathy in for questioning. A frantic Meta tells Dick the truth that Kathy had married Bob. Kathy finally tells the truth of everything to the police but during questioning she snaps and says she killed Bob. Laura clutches her pearls when she hears about Kathy getting arrested, tells Bob that Kathy is probably guilty and urges him to divorce her. Bill loses his job but Bert won’t let him take the job for Gloria’s program due to her jealousy of Gloria.

-2/2/53-2/27/53. Dick stands by Kathy. Bill, desperate for work, puts his foot down with Bert about taking the job with Gloria’s program. DA Hanley seems to have it out for Kathy due to his bitterness of Joe switching his testimony at Meta’s trial which caused Hanley to lose the case. Laura won’t let Richard give Dick the money for Kathy’s bond. Joe sets out as a reporter to prove Kathy’s innocence. Dick’s cousin, Peggy Regan, comes to work as a nurse at Cedars. Bert snaps and lays into Meta which causes Bill and Meta to lay into Bert. A guilt-ridden Kathy tries to get Dick to divorce her. Bill gets the opportunity to go into business with someone but is hesitant to invest all his savings into the venture for fear of failure. Bert pushes him to take the leap. Gloria warns Bill not to take the risk.

-3/2/53-3/31/53. Kathy goes before the grand jury. Kathy starts to think of her unborn baby as redemption and plans to give the baby the love she never gave to Bob. Joe works hard to uncover evidence for Kathy by trying to track down the mechanic who serviced Bob’s car. Richard offers his support to Kathy but Laura thinks Joe pulled strings to get Kathy off. Dick tells Laura he’s sorry that she’s his mother. Meta thinks that DA Hanley is retrying her through Kathy. Right after Kathy goes before the grand jury, Joe comes in with evidence from the mechanic that Bob’s brake linings were worn and in need of being fixed. Kathy tells Meta that if she goes to prison that she wants Meta to raise her baby. Joe comes in with the news that the jury has brought in a No Bill verdict after the mechanics testimony but Kathy is not appreciative and only whines about how her life has been ruined by the nightmare she went through. Ray and Charlotte want to sell the house Bill and Bert are renting from them and Bert goes to Meta for the money. She makes a reluctant Meta keep it a secret from Bill.

-4/1/53-4/30/53. Joey comes back home from military school for Spring Break. Laura gleefully finds out that Dick and Kathy’s marriage may not be valid because Kathy signed the marriage certificate as Kathy Roberts and not Kathy Lang. Laura is quick to tell Dick what she discovered and Dick says he doesn’t care and storms out. On Good Friday, Hanley asks Joe to forgive him for hurting Meta and Kathy and Joe forgives him. Reverend Keeler goes to Carmel to visit Kathy at the sanitarium and she tells him that she has decided to stay with Dick so that her baby will have a father but that she won’t tell him that Bob is the real father. Joey says he wants to leave military school and enlist in the air force. Bill’s short stint of optimism is dashed when one of the few major clients his new company has threatens to leave. Bert’s jealousy leads her to believe Gloria is behind it. Tim, a little boy Kathy befriended at the sanitarium, comes to Los Angeles to visit Kathy. Meta meets him at the train station and has flashbacks to Chuckie. Kathy, guilty of living a lie, is haunted in nightmares by Bob Lang. 

-5/1/53-5/29/53. Kathy’s sense of urgency and dread becomes realized when she starts to hemorrhage after having another nightmare of Bob trying to take the baby away. Kathy tells Meta that if anything happens to her that she wants Meta to raise the baby and tell Dick that the baby wasn’t his so that Laura won’t have anything to do with the baby’s life. Fearing she might die, Kathy calls for Rev. Keeler and she asks God’s forgiveness for what she did to Bob. Kathy has a caesarian and Robin Lang is born. Dick’s doubts resurface as he wonders about the similarity in Robert/Robin when Kathy chooses to name her baby Robin. Kathy becomes ill after a visit from Laura and becomes delirious. Papa loans Bill some money.

-6/1/53-6/30/53. Bill is angry at Bert when he learns she had Meta buy the Brandon house for them. Bill laments to Meta about his financial troubles and Meta lets him know that even though she doesn’t have to worry about money, the rest of her life is falling apart. Joe enters and he and Meta get into a fight both accusing the other of being selfish while Kathy could be dying. Bill heads for a bar and is tempted to drink but calls Gloria instead who bolsters him and talks him out of having the drink. Peggy hears the truth about the baby as she tends to a delirious Kathy crying out. With Kathy in her weakened physical and mental state, Nurse Janet Johnson makes moves toward a vulnerable Dick. Joey comes home to be with the family as Kathy’s life hangs in the balance due to viral pneumonia. Kathy’s fever breaks and she starts to recover physically but not mentally. Tom closes down the business and joins another team, leaving Bill alone and holding the bag which sets Bill off and he falls off the wagon. Bill shows up drunk at the hospital to see Kathy and Meta won’t let him see her. Joe apologizes to Meta and they reconcile. Kathy doesn’t remember having given birth to Robin.

-7/1/53-7/31/53. Joey gets engaged to Lois. Dick graduates from medical school and goes to work as Dr. Baird’s resident. Bill and fellow alcoholic Karen party together at Richard and Laura’s after the graduation. Joey says goodbye to Kathy at the hospital as he prepares to be shipped off on his military assignment. Bert goes on the warpath when she finds out Bill borrowed money off his life insurance, driving Bill back to the bar. Sid and Gloria try to help Bill. Kathy runs away from the hospital but returns on her own volition. Peggy confronts Janet about her designs on Dick. Janet denies the accusation but Peggy says she has her number. 

-8/3/53-8/31/53. Kathy can’t gather the courage to tell Dick the truth so she lies and says Robin is definitely his daughter. Kathy finally leaves the hospital and moves into the Roberts home with Robin. Kathy has gone from neglectful with Robin to obsessed with Robin. Bert can’t take anymore and goes to Arizona to visit her parents with Michael. Laura asks her niece over to pry information out of her about Kathy but Peggy calls her out, refuses to be used and storms out. Dick is feeling neglected by Kathy now that all her attention is going into the baby. At the advice of Gloria, Bill checks himself into the hospital.

-9/1/53 thru 9/30/53. Bill is at the hospital for a check-up and to dry out after a bender. Kathy is obsessed with baby Robin and shutting Dick out, making him vulnerable to Janet. Helen Allen reveals she is Bob Lang’s mother to Laura Grant. Bert is visiting her parents in Arizona with Michael and Elsie is trying to get Bert to give up on Bill. Bill gets released from the hospital and heads straight to a bar. Dick and Janet begin an affair and Janet tries to get Dick to face the fact that he’s probably not Robin’s biological father. Helen has second thoughts about meeting Kathy but then Laura tells her that Robin may be Helen’s grandchild. Bill packs his bags, gets some money from Papa and heads out of town to parts unknown. 

-10/1/53 thru 10/30/53. Elsie takes Bert to a divorce attorney. Meta gets firm with Kathy and tells her she has to leave her and Joe’s house. Helen meets with Kathy and tells her that Bob Lang was her son. Bill comes back to town and takes a job with Sid and Gloria. Bill, trying to build his life back, is served with divorce papers from Bert. Without Bill’s knowledge, Papa flies to Tucson to try and reason with Bert. Bert comes back home to a changed Bill. Dr. Baird warns Dick about his affair with Janet. 

11/2/53-11/30/53. Bert and Gloria clear the air about Gloria’s past with Bill and Bert’s concern for Bill’s drinking. Bill tells Bert he’s afraid of moving to New York with Sid and Gloria for work because he might fall off the wagon. Bert gives him the confidence to decide to make the move. Kathy tells Helen that Robin is her granddaughter and Helen encourages Kathy to tell Dick. Kathy tells Dick that Robin isn’t his and he is apathetic and says he already knew. Helen goes back to New York and reassures Kathy that if Dick divorces her, she can come with Robin to live with her. Laura confronts Dick with her suspicions that Robin isn’t his daughter and Dick tells her that he already knows. Richard tells Kathy that she’ll always be a part of his family and then tells Dick he needs to stay with Kathy and ditch Janet. 

-12/1/53-12/31/53. The new resident, Jim Kelly, is giving a Dick a run for his money with Dr. Baird who thinks Dick is spending too much time on his personal life. Dan Peters, a mysterious man with a scar on his face, reaches out for medical help and ends up at Cedars. Dick tells his parents about his plans to divorce Kathy and marry Janet. Only Laura is happy about the divorce news, neither Richard nor Laura is happy about the Janet news. Peggy warns Dick not to marry Janet. Dan and Peggy start to develop feelings for each other. Bill comes home from NYC for Christmas.

-12/25/53. Papa, Bill, Bert and Michael celebrate Christmas. Bill is in town for Christmas as he’s been away for business. He says he doesn’t want to let anybody down again. Meta calls and says Kathy isn’t going to come over but Bert insists she come so Michael and Robin can get acquainted.


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Thank you once again for sharing these!

So this was the first full year on TV, right? Was the show still going in parallel on the radio or did radio stop as soon the move to TV was complete?

I feel like the focus was already moved from Meta (and I guess also slightly from the Bauers) to Kathy, no? Most of the storylines were about her.

With Ray and Charlotte leaving the show at this point, I suppose that makes it everyone from the radio era is gone now? Were they actually in the show still by this point or were they just mentioned to be leaving? I am asking because in the records that I have from earlier, I had both Ray and Charlotte on the show by 1951, which is clearly wrong :D

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3 hours ago, Manny said:

Thank you once again for sharing these!

So this was the first full year on TV, right? Was the show still going in parallel on the radio or did radio stop as soon the move to TV was complete?

I feel like the focus was already moved from Meta (and I guess also slightly from the Bauers) to Kathy, no? Most of the storylines were about her.

With Ray and Charlotte leaving the show at this point, I suppose that makes it everyone from the radio era is gone now? Were they actually in the show still by this point or were they just mentioned to be leaving? I am asking because in the records that I have from earlier, I had both Ray and Charlotte on the show by 1951, which is clearly wrong :D

Yes, it was the first full year on TV. Only half of 1952 was on TV. The radio show and the TV show ran simultaneously until 1956 when the radio show ended.

Well, Kathy kind of went in and out of the story for the time she was on the show. But, when she was IN the story, she tended to be the main focus. Meta's presence was more consistent and she was also a focal point so there can be a debate on who got the most story attention in the 50s.

Well, technically, the Bauers were radio characters so one could say there was always a radio character on the show until Charita/Bert Bauer died. But, as far as the characters that began with "The New Guiding Light" reboot in 1947, yes, Ray and Charlotte were the last to go. I'd have to check, but I think the Brandons moved to NYC in February 1952 but I don't think they were in the story in 1952. I think it might have just been mentioned that they moved and they hadn't been in the story for a while. I'd have to double check. I know they didn't do a whole lot in 1951 except adopt two kids. They were in the story in 1951 but very sporadically.

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5 hours ago, Reverend Ruthledge said:

Well, Kathy kind of went in and out of the story for the time she was on the show

Susan Douglas had 3 children in the time she was on TGL so some of the absences were pregnancy/maternity related.

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January 1953 Radio TV Mirror

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as when she says, "I don't care about possessions too much. Never think of running around, buying those bits of glass! This comes from my feeling about possessions, from losing everything, so that I think now - collecting? For what?"

Susan's name, her real name, is Zuzka Zanta. She stands a doll-sized five feet and three-quarters of an inch in her nylons. She weighs ninety-nine pounds. "But my weight should be nine-five pounds," sighs this animated Dresden figurine.

And, tit for tat, Susan always went out with American boys, none but American boys (tall ones, too). She didn't want to marry a European because she'd heard, she says, that American men make better husbands. "Then, boom!" laughed Susan, "I met Jan in Canada - Jan, who is a Czech, both of us half a world away from our native homes - and we fall in love, and marry, and make a home together here in New York City, U.S.A."

But this part of the story is part of the love story and comes later on...

Susan changed her name because, when she was trying to break into radio and gave her name, Zuzka Zenta, agents and producers cried out, in pain, "Oh, please, no, not another foreigner!"

Susan did her pavement-pounding, she explained, during the war, when refugees were a dime a dozen and the hue-and-cry was on to give our American girls the breaks.

"So finally, out of desperation," she said, "I chose Susan - which is, by the way, a translation of Zuzka." She picked the Douglas out of a telephone director as, many years ago, the late great David Belasco rechristened another little girl, name of Gladys Smith; the name he picked for Gladys Smith was Mary Pickford.

"I had to have something that didn't sound foreign," Susan said. "I wanted something that was pretty usual and all-American. I wanted a plain name and, next to Smith and Jones, which seemed to be going too far, there were more Douglases than any other name in the phone book."

As a teenager in Prague, Susan went through the Conservatory. "I had seven years of ballet," she said. " I had music, drama, languages. After the Conservatory, I was in the National Theatre in Prague for a year before the Germans came. Then they closed the theatre.

"When I arrived in New York, the people who gave me my affidavit to come here - the affidavit which declared I would not become a public charge - met me. I stayed with them for a little bit. When my mother came, I lived with my mother.

"Because I didn't know English, and also because I was told you must have a high-school diploma if you hope for any work in the theatre, I went for one half-year (the last half of the senior year) to George Washington High School. I took courses in English, which was a good way of learning English and of getting, at the same time, a diploma. During this time, Mother went to work as a beauty consultant for Lord & Taylor, so that the bills might be paid.

"After I was graduated, I went and worked at Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer's New York offices. I was an assistant to one of the publicity directors in the publicity department. I liked it, too. I like publicity. It was fun to be a part, even an assistant part, of telling people about Elizabeth Taylor, Jane Powell, Gene Kelly, Clark Gable and all the glamorous others. But, Whether I liked it or not, I needed a job, I had to work. By this time, I had caught on to the fact that there is no National Theatre in America, where you can go and work for the rest of your life. And that it is a matter of a job here, a job there, for the one who has the time to seek jobs. This made me realize that I had to save enough money to take time for auditions.

"I stayed at MGM a year. During that year, I'd use my lunch hours to see agents. One agent, who was really wonderful to me, was Jane Broder. She took me to see Katharine Cornell in 'Three Sisters.' The two people I most wanted to see in America were Katharine Cornell and Helen Hayes, so this gave me a big, big thrill. I also learned from Jane Broder how difficult the theater is. Not as it is in Europe, she made plain to me - no security. Why didn't I, she asked, try radio?

"This was fine with me. I'll act in anything, just so long as I can act. I've done all four mediums now - theatre, movies, radio and television - and in these I've done everything but sing. I can't sing," Susan added ruefully. "Imagine that - and me married to a basso profundo!

"But for radio, as for any other medium, I had to have time to get around and meet people and try for auditions. So I lived with a family, helping them take care of their kids, which was mostly a matter of getting them up in the morning and helping them with their homework in the evenings. Since I didn't have to pay any room rent, I saved enough from my salary to live for six months without working, which was the whole purpose...

"Once this purpose was accomplished, and the money in the bank, I went to live at the Rehearsal Club on Fifty-third Street - a non-profit organization where you can live (I did) for thirteen dollars a week for room and two meals.

"So that's when I started the radio rounds, applying for auditions. I must have taken about sixty auditions, over a period of three or four months, before I got my first job, which was a part in a dramatic educational program called School of the Air. Dick Sanvdille was the director and out of that first job - and thanks to Dick - came my first running part in the serial, Wilderness Road. I played the daughter, who was one of the leads. I was in that for a year - which was really terrific!

"But I must tell you a funny story," Susan laughed, "about the first job. When Mr. Sandville interviewed me for the part in School of the AIr, he asked the key question: 'What experience have you had?' I'd answered that one many times before with the honest, one-syllable word, 'None.' And 'Nothing right now, I'm sorry,' was the answer I got in return. So, this time, what with the passing months eating away at my savings, I told a real whopper. 'Well, I worked for two years in Scranton, Pennsylvania,' I said. (Why Scranton, I will never know - I had never, so help me, heard anything about the place!)

"But Mr. Sandville appeared to accept the story and I got the job.

"The first day in the studio, he told me during a scene, 'Now you fade.' I hadn't an idea what he meant. 'Fade.' What was that? In another scene, a short while later 'This time,' said Mr. Sandville, 'you cross-fade.' I didn't know what that meant, either.

"When the rehearsal was over, Mr. Sandville said, looking me straight in the eye: 'Even in Scranton, they know what a fade and a cross-fade is.' And I knew that Mr. Sandville knew I had never before seen the inside of a radio studio, either in Scranton or any other place!

"But from then on, I worked pretty steadily...a new thing, a new job, always seemed to come out of the job before. Out of the three or four shows I did for Theatre Guild on the Air came my first Broadway play, 'Prologue to Glory,' in which I played Ann Rutledge. And out of 'Prologue to Glory' came an offer from the Theatre Guild to play the part of Consuelo, the girl lead, in 'He Who Gets Slapped.' I then did a couple more plays and a couple of movies in Hollywood, 'The Private Lives of Bel Ami,' 'Lost Boundaries.' And then I did a movie in Canada called 'Forbidden Journey.'" As she spoke of the movie in Canada called "Forbidden Journey," the color of Susan's eyes changed, deepened, for it was during the making of "Forbidden Journey" Susan met her love.

"We were doing the picture in Montreal," Susan said, "and were looking for someone to play the part of a Czech stowaway. Jan, whose full name is Jan Rubes (pronounced Rubesh), had just got over from Czechoslovakia - he left soon after the Communists came in. And someone who knew about the film, and had met Jan, suggested to him that he try for the part. He did. He was given a test and he got the part. So there we were, playing the leads, and Jan - a Czech, who spoke almost no English - practically playing himself!

"The first scene we played together having barely and briefly been introduced was - the love scene! With which we had so much difficulty that we had to do it thirty-eight times! It was a jinx - sort of a lovely jinx," Susan smiled and sighed, "for, halfway through each take, something happened, either to the camera, or the birds made too much noise, or a plane zoomed overhead, or we forgot our lines, for which the 'penalty' was - Jan and I going into the clinch time after time after time up to the count of, as I've said, thirty-eight!

"Yes, it was 'at first sight' with both of us, I guess. But speaking for myself, no guesswork about it - and why not? He's six-foot-one," Susan said, eyes blue now, and shining, "he weights 195 pounds. He has light brown hair and gray-green eyes and, as a singer, he's a basso profundo, the rich volume of which shatters your heart - and mine!

"Originally, Jan wanted to be a doctor - as I, originally, wanted and hoped to be a ballet dancer - but when the Germans came to Prague they closed the University, so he couldn't continue with his studies. Music was his next love, so he went to audition at the Conservatory of Music in Prague and won the scholarship over 280 applicants. After he finished at the Conservatory, he was engaged as bass baritone at the Prague Opera House. He was the youngest bass baritone at the Opera House, the youngest that had been three for twenty years.

"The only thing Jan likes better than singing is his sports. He is a big sportsman. In Czechoslovakia, he was cross-country ski champion and on the Junior National tennis team. We ski together now, every winter, Jan and I. The only dance we like to dance is the waltz - to the strains of 'Tales from the Vienna Woods.' - and the polka, to a Czech polka we both remember from back home...We can't play tennis together - it would be too ridiculous of me - but now we've started a new hobby, playing golf, which we can do together.

"All this, and more, I learned about him, as he learned my life from me, between takes on the picture and at dinner in our hotel on the picture and at dinner in our hotel after work at night. It was one morning, toward the end of the picture, while we were waiting for the down elevator, that he proposed to me. In English, as a matter of fact! I said 'Yes' right away.

"After the picture was finished, we saw each other every weekend in Montreal - for I flew up there to see him until such time as he could be admitted to the States. Practically a year form the day we met, we married.

"The Czech custom is, when you get married, you break a plate and keep the pieces, which are lucky pieces. For my marriage present, Jan gave me a bracelet of gold and pearls. And, after the marriage, he had a bit of the broken plate put in a gold link as a charm for the bracelet. For my first wedding anniversary gift, he gave me the Roman funeral I, made out of pearls and gold. For my second, which he gave me the Roman numeral II, also made of gold and pearls - which are my favorites of all jewels. I am not crazy about jewelry," Susan said, "except for the gold and the pearls - and Jan's imagination has gone into them."

Thanks to CBS Radio and TV's Guiding Light, and Susan's lead role thereon, no honeymoon was possible for Susan and Jan, at the proper time for a honeymoon. But last year they flew to Havana, which was a honeymoon (even though a belated honeymoon) heaven.

"My husband went there," Susan said, "to sing 'Il Trovatore' and 'The Marriage of Figaro.' As, at another time, he went to New Orleans for 'Don Giovanni.' In addition to opera, Jan does concert and has made some TV appearances. He is now on a cross-country concert tour all through Canada. I flew to Canada - on a four-day leave of absence from Guiding Light - to be with him at the start. But back to Havana, beautiful Havana...in Havana, apart from the work Jan did, we danced in the moonlight, swam in the moonlight, did everything romantic honeymooners are supposed to do."

Now in New York, these two - who met, as if by inscrutable design, half a world away from their native home - make their home, In an apartment which Susan describes as "very small and not too interesting...except for the furniture, most of which Jan built."

As a housewife, Susan doesn't, she said modestly, think too much of herself.

"I'm not neat around the house," she sighed, "only in the kitchen. You could eat off the floor of my kitchen. And I can't stand an unmade bed or unwashed dishes. Always have to have the bed made five minutes after I step out of it, and always have to do the dishes right quick! But otherwise...I don't care about possessions or taking care of them too much....

"I do enjoy cooking, love to cook, love to experiment with things. One of my favorite recipes is a graham-cracker-crust pie filled with a layer of lemon chiffon, then sliced bananas, then a layer of strawberry chiffon, another layer of sliced bananas, the whole topped with whipped cream and sliced strawberries."

When young Susan and Jan are not cooking, painting, performing in radio, on TV, on the concert stage, in movies or in opera, they have any number of hobbies to keep them happy. They take a lot of eight-millimeter pictures of each other and the places they go, Susan says, then cut their own film, edit it and caption it.

They play games. Charades, for instance. "And a wonderful new word game," Susan said, a glint in her eye, "called Scrabble. And we love cards - bridge, poker, canasta and gin. Jan loves to play chess, but I haven't the patience.

"I can't sew, but I used to love to sculpt. And I fool around some, even now, with pottery.

"We hate parties, big parties. If we have more than eight people for dinner at one time, my husband doesn't have a good time. We go to the theatre a lot, and to the ballet, and we go dancing, as I've said, usually to the St. Regis Roof.

"I'm not much of a one for new clothes. I can't, just can't stand shopping. I just loathe it. When girl friends call up and say, provocatively 'Let's have lunch and go shopping,' nothing could excite me less or bore me more. I never go. About once a year, propelled by necessity, I hurl myself into a shop, say, 'I'll take this, and this, and that - goodbye!"

"Except for evening clothes," Susan said. (With Susan, who is as feminine as filigree, there is usually an "except.") " I love evening clothes because of the big, voluminous skirts - it's the romantic in me, I guess - and also because, with evening clothes, I can wear platform shoes!

"But if I had my way - my ideal way of life - I'd live in the country in sweaters, slacks and skirts.

"The minute we have enough money, I'd like to have a farm in the country - especially because I'm mad for fireplaces...we listen to music so much, to sit by a fireplace and listen would be lovely...and mad for dogs. And horses. In Czechoslovakia, we had a town house in Prague and a farm outside of Prague where my dad used to breed horses. I rode side-saddle.

"At home, we had dogs, too, lots of them. We had five police dogs, one Irish setter and one cocker spaniel. When I have a dog again, I'd like to have a police dog, or a St. Bernard - only they eat so much...

"Our immediate plan is to stay in New York and work for another five years, during which time we hope to have two children, one right after another, as fast as we can. Then to the country, where - instead of working every day - we'll do a TV show once a week, a movie, a play, a concert once or twice a year.

"How we make out financially will determine, of course, whether this dream comes true, or not...If it doesn't," Susan shrugged, "life with Jan and with the two one-right-after-another children we hope to have will still be, for me - in town or in country, with or without a fireplace and a dog -the ideal way of life."

The years have been good to Susan, for indeed she has found love's guiding light.

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both...the one named Ellen Demming Thompson - Mrs. Hal Thompson - who lives and laughs with her in their own charming home...and the one called Meta Bauer Roberts - Mrs. Joe Roberts - who lives in that big cabinet in the corner of the Thompson living room.

Ellen Demming herself feels as if she had lived on a television screen for a good portion of her life, because she was in TV in the early experimental days (on Station WRGB) in Schenectady, New York, the town in which she was born and brought up.

Meta Roberts, in The Guiding Light, is the first continuing dramatic role she has ever played. Ellen admires the woman she portrays, grows more interested in her every day. She thinks the cast and all who work with her are tops.

"Although most of them were already on the program when I joined it, they never treated me as a newcomer," she says. "They made me one of them, right from the beginning. Ted Corday, the director, was wonderful - kind and patient. What extraordinary patience that man has with everyone! The producer, David Lesan, couldn't be finer to work with. And the cast - well, they're all just swell. That goes for the crew, too. You never saw a nicer set of people."

Ellen is a fairly tall girl - five feet seven - with a good figure and a tiny waist. Her brown hair is touched with gold lights, her hazel eyes are set wide apart and have a soft and velvety quality, like her voice. That distinctive, low-pitched voice, now so familiar to listeners, is her natural one, except that the microphone seems to emphasize its throatiness and the soft drawl. Many persons ask her what part of the South she hails from, and they can hardly believe she's an up-state New Yorker and that it's her husband, Hal, who hails from Georgia.

Hal was an actor when he and Ellen met, as co-stars in the Green Hills summer theatre at Reading, Pennsylvania. It was Ellen's fourth season of summer stock, most of it on the New England coast, and Hal's first. "Claudia" was the play that brought them together, and they've been very fond of the girl in the title ever since. The year was 1946. Hal had come out of the Army, which he entered from college and in which he served five years. Theatre interested him, and he did some night-club emceeing, then took the acting job as a means of learning what went on behind the scenes of show business.

Ellen, of course, had been a professional actress since those early television days. She had gone to Stephens College, in Missouri, to continue her study under the famous actress, Maude Adams, who was then the head of the drama department there. She had served a summer apprenticeship at the Mohawk Drama Festival during Charles Coburn's last season there. And she had a season with the Clare Tree Major Children's Theatre, a touring group of talented young actors which was led by Mrs. Major. "I was twenty the summer I was with Mrs. Major and it was a thrilling year. She made me company manager - which amazed me - and which meant I did a little of everything, from managing the company and acting to hoisting scenery and driving the truck."

Both Miss Adams and Mrs. Major had wanted her to change her name from Ellen Weber (she had already dropped her first name, Betty, and was using only her middle name, Ellen). Demming was her great-grandmother's name and both women thought it would look better on a theatre program.

Ellen's name on special interest because of something that happened right after Hal met her and began to think seriously of marriage - which seems to have been not later than five minutes after they were introduced! Almost immediately, he began to speak of her a great deal to his family, and his mother asked if Ellen Demming was a stage name or her real one. "I had to admit that I didn't know," Hal says, and he laughs as he remembers his own confusion. "I could only say, 'Well, that's her name, the only one I know.' It had happened so fast to both of us. Ellen assumed I knew all about her, I guess, and I knew that what I already knew was enough to make me know that she was the only girl for me."

It had happened fast. In six weeks, Ellen and Hal were formally engaged. Then they begged off for the rest of the stock-company season so they could meet each other's families and plan a wedding in New York, where they were married on September 14, 1946.

It was a lovely wedding, and everything went beautifully, except that they had no apartment. It was the time of the most acute housing shortage, and they had to settle for a heatless, cold-water flat in the Hell's Kitchen section of New York City. They shared a bathroom with other tenants. Hal's first birthday present to his bride was a portable canvas bathtub.

Fortunately, by the time Erica was born, the Thompsons had settled down in the charming apartment in which they presently live, in one of New York's big garden developments, where there is a playground, and a sandbox for Erica to dig in, a pool for splashing about on hot days, and lots of grass and trees.

Perhaps because they waited so long for it, their present home has a rather special feeling of comfortable living, of quiet and of peace. The living-room walls are a soft shade of deep green, restful and cool. Ellen designed the stunning high cabinet and shelves which dominate one wall, and Hal made it to her specifications, with the help of their friend Peter Birch, painting the wood to match the wall. A deep sofa, in gold-colored fabric, faces the television set, on which stands a glazed jardiniere with big white leaves forming a huge bouquet against the background of green wall. There are comfortable chairs and convenient tables. The rugs are beige cotton pile. Lamps and ornaments make color notes here and there. The adjoining dining portion forms an L to the living room and is furnished with dark green wrought-iron table and chairs.

Their home is a restful background for two busy grownups and one extremely busy little girl who has to keep up with all her picture books, besides taking care of her extensive family of dolls, and still find time for all her little playmates. Part of Erica's summer is being spent on a side live - and there will be a visit to Ellen's family in Schenectady.

"If I didn't have such a fine maid, who loves Erica, I couldn't possibly leave her as I do for rehearsals and broadcasts," Ellen explains, looking serious. "But I do think that it's a good idea for every wife and mother to have some outside interests. I just happened to be an actress who wanted to continue my work, but if I wasn't doing that I would try to find something else which would be stimulating and bring me home to my family with more to give than when I left. It wouldn't have to be paid work. It could be community work, following a hobby, or promoting a cause that does good."

Actually, Erica gets little chance to miss her mother, because there are so many hours when they can be together, Ellen's are mid-day programs and she is home quite early. She and Hal have most of their evenings free, except when she does something special, like a dramatic television show at night.

She was doing an ingenue role on the Robert Montgomery program when she got her chance to play Meta Roberts - and almost missed it. Jan Miner had recommended Ellen to both the producer and the director of The Guiding Light, but it was generally felt that Ellen felt that Ellen looked too young for the part. "I don't know whether any of the powers-that-be on Guiding Light saw me that Monday night doing an ingenue role on the Montgomery television show, but I hoped they wouldn't. I was supposed to look young and I had worn my hair down, very girlishly. It was the day after that telecast that I was supposed to read for the role of Meta.

"What a transformation I tried to make! I slicked my hair up, under my most sophisticated hat, and chose a tailored suit, and did a complete turnabout from the ingenues I'd been playing. I got the part.

"Each day I feel closer to Meta. I think that now I look more mature when I'm playing her, because I think of her as an emotionally mature woman, secure in her overcoming of many difficulties. I admire her, knowing that another woman less strong than she might have grown more frivolous and unstable during the period when she was going through such grave ordeals. I have been proud of the poise she has gained, and of her her ability now to help others who are confused and unhappy. Like her step-daughter, Kathy, for instance, for whom she has such tenderness and compassion."

How interesting and real Meta is to other women, as well as to Ellen, is frequently demonstrated by incidents like a recent one. Ellen was shopping at her neighborhood grocery and a woman recognized her. "You're Meta," she said. "On Guiding Light." Her face brightened. "It's wonderful to bump into you today of all days, because I had to miss the program and I have wondered what happened."

Ellen filled in the day's events, and that led to a discussion of Kathy and her problems. "You know," the woman told Ellen, "I have a mixed-up daughter myself, so much like Kathy, and it helps me greatly to see how you help Kathy. It makes me understand my own child better, and I am really grateful to you."

Hal Thompson is apt to smile a little indulgently at the diversity of names by which his wife has been known. He puts it this way: "When the telephone rings, and I answer it, and it's for my wife, I can always tell from exactly which part of her life the caller comes. IF a voice asks for Betty, then I know it's someone from home, or at least from her early days in Schenectady. If someone asks for Ellen, then the call is from the theatre or New York portion of her life. An d if they say, 'Mr. Demming (instead of Mr. Thompson!), may I speak to your wife?' well, then I know it's probably someone from radio or TV."

As the husband of Betty Weber - Ellen Demming - Meta Roberts, he's more than satisfied. Erica may have two wonderful mothers. Hal Thompson has three wonderful wives, and he loves them all.

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