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Barack Obama Elected President!

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Georgia is not ranked No. 1.

USC is.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex

Hey now!! Don't be dissing the Dawgs!!! :D:P

We played Georgia Southern and led 38-0 almost to the end of the third quarter. We played 2s and 3s before the half and the trash points were scored against the majority of 3s in the third quarter. The score did not reflect how Georgia Southern was manhandled for the most part. I kinda hated beating up on Southern because it's a good school and m cousin is an athletic trainer for the Eagles.

hehe...We were preseason #1 and we're a pretty good team. Will we go all the way? Who knows but I certainly hope so! GO DAWGS!!

And to the person who said we are in a recession, it does have a specific definition and we are not technically in a recession. The technical indicator of a recession is two consecutive quarters of negative economic growth as measured by a country's GDP. We are in an inflationary period that I certainly hope ends soon. However, like the Great Depression, it's a global condition.

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Hey now!! Don't be dissing the Dawgs!!! :D:P

We played Georgia Southern and led 38-0 almost to the end of the third quarter. We played 2s and 3s before the half and the trash points were scored against the majority of 3s in the third quarter. The score did not reflect how Georgia Southern was manhandled for the most part. I kinda hated beating up on Southern because it's a good school and m cousin is an athletic trainer for the Eagles.

hehe...We were preseason #1 and we're a pretty good team. Will we go all the way? Who knows but I certainly hope so! GO DAWGS!!

And to the person who said we are in a recession, it does have a specific definition and we are not technically in a recession. The technical indicator of a recession is two consecutive quarters of negative economic growth as measured by a country's GDP. We are in an inflationary period that I certainly hope ends soon. However, like the Great Depression, it's a global condition.

:lol::lol::lol:

I'm not dissing the Mighty Dawgs!!!! Hell, it still has us pissed off from last year when they got screwed out of the National Title picture.

Oklahoma?! That bullshit!! :lol::P

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:lol::lol::lol:

I'm not dissing the Mighty Dawgs!!!! Hell, it still has us pissed off from last year when they got screwed out of the National Title picture.

Oklahoma?! That bullshit!! :lol::P

hehe...we knew we didn't ACTUALLY have a shot at the title with our two losses and not playing in the SEC championship (of course Mark Richt had to stand up for his guys and fight for it but we knew it was a looooong shot). The thing that got me was that we would have really enjoyed going to the Rose Bowl to play USC and that would have made two better bowl games by having USC - Georgia and then Hawaii - Illinois. That was crap that we didn't get the Rose Bowl invite. I still regret that...although the Sugar Bowl is always fun. You know what they say "Can't Spell Sugar Without UGA".

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I guess now it's Joe Biden who hasn't done anything either. I read this quote on CNN.com where Palin is criticizing him but I don't get her point.

I had no idea he'd been sitting in Washington doing nothing all these years. At least she;s not a religious conservative since I would hope they don't believe in lying.

Maybe what she is saying, in a round-about way, is that he's been in D.C. for so long he's part of the problem. Too much of the establishment.

hehe...we knew we didn't ACTUALLY have a shot at the title with our two losses and not playing in the SEC championship (of course Mark Richt had to stand up for his guys and fight for it but we knew it was a looooong shot). The thing that got me was that we would have really enjoyed going to the Rose Bowl to play USC and that would have made two better bowl games by having USC - Georgia and then Hawaii - Illinois. That was crap that we didn't get the Rose Bowl invite. I still regret that...although the Sugar Bowl is always fun. You know what they say "Can't Spell Sugar Without UGA".

I'm still trying to figure out how Kansas, who got beat by Missouri in the Big 12 North Title game, played in the Rose Bowl and Mizzou got the Cotton Bowl?

I'm like, whose ass do you have to suck to get what is due your team?

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I guess her wording was misleading. She should have said "I put it up for sale on Ebay", rather than "I sold it on Ebay".

Kind of reminds me of the wording in the Obama talking point of "McCain voting "with" Bush". You guys adamently defended him on that, so I guess I will do the same for Palin.

If Palin's wording being misleading makes her a liar. Does that make Obama a one too?

Maybe I should have been clearer. This website shows what a liar/hypocrite/crooked politician she is.

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Maybe what she is saying, in a round-about way, is that he's been in D.C. for so long he's part of the problem. Too much of the establishment.

I'm still trying to figure out how Kansas, who got beat by Missouri in the Big 12 North Title game, played in the Rose Bowl and Mizzou got the Cotton Bowl?

I'm like, whose ass do you have to suck to get what is due your team?

What happened to Mizzou was just WRONG on so many levels (and if a Georgia guy doesn't get the Heisman then Chase Daniels would get my vote). I'm not a proponent of the current BCS system because so much depends on opinions and long standing associations of Bowl organizers and conferences. Why can't there be a playoff system between conferences?

and for the Palin comments about Biden. I'm not a fan of that. I was just complaining about that kind of politics. I don't want to hear what the "other" side has done or not done. It's up to them to tell me that. Tell me what YOU are going to do in office. Why do we have this trend of negative campaigning? I honestly think this two party system is destroying American politics.

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How relevant this is to the campaign---you decide---

On a show we saw last week, McCain mentioned that his greatest failure in life was the ending of his first marriage. I guess he had to admit some remorse because his wife was going public with the story. A must read!!!! First wife out of sight, how shallow can one man be?

Carol McCain

McCain likes to illustrate his moral fiber by referring to his five years as a prisoner-of-war in Vietnam . And to demonstrate his commitment to family values, the 71-year- old former US Navy pilot pays warm tribute to his beautiful blonde wife, Cindy, with whom he has four children. But there is another Mrs.. McCain who casts a ghostly shadow over the Senator's presidential campaign. She is seldom seen and rarely written about, despite being mother to McCain's three eldest children. She was the woman McCain dreamed of during his long incarceration and torture in Vietnam 's infamous 'Hanoi Hilton' prison and the woman who faithfully stayed at home looking after the children and waiting anxiously for news. But when McCain returned to America in 1973 to a fanfare of publicity and a handshake from Richard Nixon, he discovered his wife had been disfigured in a terrible car crash three years earlier. Her car had skidded on icy roads into a telegraph pole on Christmas Eve, 1969.

Her pelvis and one arm were shattered by the impact and she suffered massive internal injuries. When Carol was discharged from hospital after six months of life-saving surgery, the prognosis was bleak. In order to save her legs, surgeons had been forced to cut away huge sections of shattered bone, taking with it her tall, willowy figure. She was confined to a wheelchair and was forced to use a catheter. Today, she stands at just 5' 4' in and still walks awkwardly, with a pronounced limp. Her body is held together by screws and metal plates and, at 70, her face is worn by wrinkles that speak of decades of silent suffering. For nearly 30 years, Carol has maintained a dignified silence about the accident, McCain and their divorce. But last week at the bungalow where she now lives at Virginia Beach, a faded seaside resort 200 miles south of Washington, she told The Mail on Sunday how McCain divorced her in 1980 and married Cindy, 1 8 years his junior and the heir to an Arizona brewing fortune, just one month later. My marriage ended because John McCain didn't want to be 40, he wanted to be 25. You know that happens...it just does.'

In 1979 - while still married to Carol - he met Cindy at a cocktail party in Hawaii . Over the next six months he pursued her, flying around the country to see her. Then he began to push to end his marriage. Some of McCain's acquaintances are less forgiving, however. They portray the politician as a self-centered womanizer who effectively abandoned his crippled wife to 'play the field'. They accuse him of finally settling on Cindy, a former rodeo beauty queen, for financial reasons. Ted Sampley, who fought with US Special Forces in Vietnam and is now a leading campaigner for veterans' rights, said: 'I have been following John McCain's career for nearly 20 years. I know him personally. There is something wrong with this guy and let me tell you what it is -deceit.' When he came home and saw that Carol was not the beauty he left behind, he started running around on her almost right away. Everybody around him knew it. Eventually he met Cindy and she was young and beautiful and very wealthy. At that point McCain just dumped Carol for something he thought was better.'

McCain is the classic opportunist. He's always reaching for attention and glory,' he said. After he came home, Carol walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona . And the rest is history.' Ross Perot, a billionaire Texas businessman, and a former presidential candidate, who paid her medical bills all those years ago, now believes that both Carol McCain and the American people have been taken in by a man who is unusually slick and cruel - even by the standards of modern politics.

The Will of God never takes you to where the Grace of God will not protect you.

FOLLOWING IS A NOTE I RECEIVED FROM A FREIND AND HE ASKED ME TO PASS IT ON.....

Richard Highland

Dear Friends:

My friend and colleague, Raymond Smock, former (distinguished) Historian of the U.S. House and a savvy political observer, sometimes shares with me his observations of current political events. He knows his stuff, but I'm hoping that this time he will be proven wrong.

John McCain's campaign, now controlled by Karl Rove's longtime lieutenants, have come up with a notable surprise. But Obama's campaign staff is outstanding, the best that we have seen in decades and I can't wait until they unleash their full fuselage of tough female democrats, including Hilary, to put this arrogant and sarcastic rookie, Sarah Plain, back in her rightful place: Alaska. But Ray is worried, as he should be, given how uninformed the white electorate sometimes votes. So I thought I'd share with you his concerns because they reflects just how cynical and manipulative the opposition is. Here is what Ray (who is a white mid-Westerner) wrote:

"Sarah Palin gave a good speech tonight, all considered. Naturally, I was nauseous throughout her performance. She is trouble for Democrats. She is not the antidote to Hillary that everyone thought she would be. She is the great white woman hope against Barack and Michelle. This is how the Republicans are playing the race card, not the woman card. Sarah said not one word about Hillary or about female empowerment. The Democrats have made their stand with the middle class and Palin is the answer to that as well. She is middle class white America, a self-proclaimed hockey mom who believes in guns and God.

She, and Rudy Guiliani before her ridiculed Barack as an effete eastern intellectual who can't make decisions. They demeaned his work as a community organizer as being of no consequence.

Barack the black guy from middle class America who went to school on scholarships, and is now the epitome of the Eastern Elite. His Harvard education is used against him. He is out of touch. He represents cosmopolitan America vs working middle class and rural America. McCain and Palin are casting themselves as real frontier Americans, anti-establishment, independent, anti-elite, and whiter than the driven snow. This characterization works in the South, where too many whites will have trouble voting for a black man. So they went to their strengths. The South and the West, and hope their middle class appeal will work in rust belt states like Ohio and Michigan and Pennsylvania, where guns and God also play well.

The war in Iraq means nothing. The economic downturn means nothing. George Bush's 8-year disaster means nothing. Global Warming means nothing. The Republicans have staked the battleground on the Red state vs. Blue state culture wars. From listening tonight you would have no idea that George Bush and his legacy even existed. This convention has done everything it can to cast a negative light on Obama as a total novice, a mere community organizer with no executive experience. Joe Biden becomes the decrepit Washington insider. The Republicans are running, as they so often do, against Washington itself since they have believed government to be the problem for many decades now.

This anti-intellectual appeal to raw emotion, patriotism, religion, anti-abortion, and fear (of terrorists and taxes) smacks of Karl Rove's finest work. This could work, I am very sorry to say."

Ray

What Ray writes is what I believe we must continue to work against: Karl Rove's dark and malignant view of America's real politics. Too bad his genius does not extend to what it takes to govern effectively and fairly in a democracy in the 21st century.

Avon

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Maybe what she is saying, in a round-about way, is that he's been in D.C. for so long he's part of the problem. Too much of the establishment.

I guess it's in the way she words it. Too bad she considers the Violence Against Women Act as inconsequential.

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I don't know guys. I know first hand that sometimes things aren't always how they seem on the surface and the only people that know are the two involved and even they have radically different perspectives. When someone is critically injured like that it muddies the waters even more. Statistics say that as much as 80% of marriages where one of the spouses are permanently injured end in divorce. It's a difficult situation. I know from personal and direct experience.

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I guess her wording was misleading. She should have said "I put it up for sale on Ebay", rather than "I sold it on Ebay".

Kind of reminds me of the wording in the Obama talking point of "McCain voting "with" Bush". You guys adamently defended him on that, so I guess I will do the same for Palin.

If Palin's wording being misleading makes her a liar. Does that make Obama a one too?

I still don't understand why you wouldn't understand voting "with" Bush. I don't see how it's not obvious what he means. Duh, Bush doesn't vote.

I can understand how Palin said it. She said it to get the reaction and I don't think it's that big of a deal anyway. But there have been other Republicans who've repeated her story and said that she SOLD it on Ebay, and implied that somebody DID buy it on Ebay. Obviously they knew nothing about the situation and just were trying to say something cool.

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I don't have an issue with his divorcing her if he wasn't going to be able to love who through sickness. I think it was only fair instead of living through a farce. What I do have a problem with (even though it's not my marriage) is the adultery. She had already been through enough with her waiting for him while he was a POW and her own accident and for him to cheat on her was despicable. That's basically what led to the fallout between him and the Reagans since Nancy Reagan really liked her.

Her heartbreak may always remain in some form but she was probably better off without him and I think they've put that behind them. It doesn't erase the cruel nature of it but things do happen. It would be wrong of him to criticize anyone for doing the same thing.

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What happened to Mizzou was just WRONG on so many levels (and if a Georgia guy doesn't get the Heisman then Chase Daniels would get my vote). I'm not a proponent of the current BCS system because so much depends on opinions and long standing associations of Bowl organizers and conferences. Why can't there be a playoff system between conferences?

and for the Palin comments about Biden. I'm not a fan of that. I was just complaining about that kind of politics. I don't want to hear what the "other" side has done or not done. It's up to them to tell me that. Tell me what YOU are going to do in office. Why do we have this trend of negative campaigning? I honestly think this two party system is destroying American politics.

What may hurt the McCain/Palin campaign is now this thought process that the election is not about the issues, but about personalities, like what Rick Davis said. That can be turned into what it has been turned into.....sounding more like a popularity contest than a campaign on the issues facing voters.

The BCS is all screwed up. A playoff system would fix this entire mess, because with opinion creeping in to every ranking in CF, it screws some team out of a chance for the NT. I still remember Auburn going 11-0 one year, but did not compete for the National Title because it was said they didn't play anyone in the Top 25.

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I don't condone adultry but again we weren't in the situation. We don't know the whole story. There is an extreme amount of pressure for the person in the marriage that wasn't injured. It's a miserable time and sometimes it can just be too much. It can be too hard and you are stuck in a situation where you don't want to be the "bad" guy but you are not living a good life. It's hard to meet the expectations of understanding that others have for you and that you have for yourself and sometimes you break. You run and it's not the right thing to do but I understand it.

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I don't condone adultry but again we weren't in the situation. We don't know the whole story. There is an extreme amount of pressure for the person in the marriage that wasn't injured. It's a miserable time and sometimes it can just be too much. It can be too hard and you are stuck in a situation where you don't want to be the "bad" guy but you are not living a good life. It's hard to meet the expectations of understanding that others have for you and that you have for yourself and sometimes you break. You run and it's not the right thing to do but I understand it.

In a perfectn world, it would be no one's business. Shoot, I know you have heard of all the women JFK was sleeping with while he was married to Jackie. The press is also a different breed now. This is such a tabloid society now that this stuff is of the utmost importance.

But on the other side, some may feel "Don't claim to spout morals and ideas above all else when you have failed yourself." Like TGVN said on Thursday's Y&R "You can tell alot about a man with what he does when no one is looking."

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What may hurt the McCain/Palin campaign is now this thought process that the election is not about the issues, but about personalities, like what Rick Davis said. That can be turned into what it has been turned into.....sounding more like a popularity contest than a campaign on the issues facing voters.

I think verbalizing it is even more of a problem. Who really wants to look at the process for selecting the highest office in the country as a popularity contest?

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