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I loved the OC Revealed special...though I disagree that they all came off bad. Eerily I thought Tamra and Vicki came off just fine and true to how they are on the show. Tamra, in particular, seemed very 'professional' and clearly has a strong grasp of the reality television production side. The producers all seem to respect Vicki, despite also saying she's got the worst temper and how clearly demanding she is during production. However, like Tamra, she seems to have a good understanding of how the production side works. I agree that the producers seemed to hate Gretchen. GOOD. I don't like her either. It's interesting how the producers all said Gretchen didn't want the women there, Gretchen says the exact opposite and the women (of course) side with the producers. I howled at the idea of Heather pitching a friend to join the show when Alexis left a dinner scene - she can deny it all she wants, I believe it. This is the same team that produces Beverly Hills, it'd be interesting to see what one of those specials would be like.

RHOCheshire Good reunion. I'm glad they kept it down to an hour, the 3 hour epics that Bravo puts on the air could all be trimmed down to a compelling hour, rather than a snooze worthy marathon. Ampika rocked this reunion and it did my heart good to see her get right under Tanya's skin. I really despise Tanya, she is way worse than Dawn: dumber, more aggressive and a bigger waste of space than anyone in this franchise. At least Dawn can have a hint of self awareness and self deprecating humour - Tanya is a buffoon who laughs at her own jokes. Very sad about Lauren and Paul. I kept hoping that this separation was just for the storyline and that they'd miraculously reunite but she seems pretty devastated by the whole thing. Stacy and Seema are basically interchangeable, but I definitely prefer Seema. I wouldn't mind seeing Stacy cut. Misse is a humourless bitch. She needs to go.

And Bethenny was friends with the woman whose husband she's now dating according to the Post. Good lord, the hypocrisy in this room could choke a snake [(c) Erica Kane 1996] Dawn's now a convicted criminal. Hilarious. Obviously, Sinitta is shameless in her publicity seeking, that goes without saying, but if Dawn touched her...she should have read Britain's criminal laws, while it is the lowest form of assault, it is assault. If I were Dawn I'd be sure I returned to RHOCheshire with a great charitable storyline in the works.

Susan Lucci's fake slap was way better than Kelly Ripa's.

NYC Carole and Bethenny are such miserable cows. Carole, especially, brings NOTHING to the table. LuAnn is teflon, she is hard as nails and she will triumph. Interesting how Jules' father made a miraculous recovery between episodes. Drama queen. I feel sorry for Sonja. She is harmless. She needs focus.

Yolanda's book...sure fire bestseller. Or not. Allegedly: Vancouver died a screaming, hissing, ten headed hydra kind of death and it's all thanks to Jody Claman. She sued Mary back in 2014 after her daughter, the dreadful Mia, was shot in a drive by shooting and Mary said to the media that if you hang around with gang members that these kinds of things happen. Obviously Jody didn't like that...so she sued (the lawsuit went nowhere). Mia's baby daddy died of a "drug overdose" several months later. Vancouver is simply too small a city to reboot the show. The wealthy people with discretion would never be on the show. Toronto has all the makings of being a great franchise, Vancouver got toxic, so I'm all for this change.

And the counterargument to that is how is being a slut or a whore a crime that needs to be called out by anyone? Isn't it only LuAnn's business who she chooses to sleep with? It's slut shaming and it isn't acceptable. LuAnn has been a sexually liberated woman for years.

Yes it's an interesting shift to not have Eileen there to backup Lips - I know the rumour was Eileen was getting a ton of money to be on the show, so she may have priced herself out (and her crap this season certainly did her no favours) - this whole chain of events is a dramatic overhaul of BH again - which the show desperately needs...this last season was excruciating to get through. They need to do what NYC has done because it's been fabulous this season.

If the news is true and LemonLyme is gone I clink a glass of rose in celebration with LVP - Long Live The Queen! I too would have kept Kathryn because LVP needs someone to have her back and Kathryn was a decent person - it's that very decency which likely sealed her fate. Erika will self destruct in season 2. I can almost guarantee it. The cracks in her veneer will show. I don't know what Lips is going to do given how she lost her mind with LVP and burned that bridge...

Tonight's episode of NYC was epic...but it also doesn't sit right with me. Bethenny slut shamed LuAnn and that is not acceptable. LuAnn is who she is and she hasn't been The Countess for years. LuAnn has long been a sexually liberated woman. From Jacques to the Pirate to the 'Be Cool, Don't Be All Uncool...NOT REALLY' in St. Barths....LuAnn has been living her life on her terms for years. She's also been dealing with slut shaming from the likes of Carole and Bethenny for years too. At last year's reunion she had to defend herself saying "I'm a grown woman, I can do what I want!" I do not understand or respect Bethenny's argument that LuAnn is a fake and that she acts one way and then judges other people for the same behaviour: no she does not. LuAnn's conflict with Carole (sad, tired, pathetic Carole with no story of her own) exists solely because Carole slept with LuAnn's niece's ex boyfriend moments after he and LuAnn's niece broke up. They can try to make LuAnn look like a hypocrite all they like but it simply isn't accurate. Certainly, the scene with LuAnn and Jules was awful and LuAnn was about as self centred as it gets - though Jules, if your father is dying, why in God's name are you in the Berkshires? Get on a plane and see your father. Ramona was fun this episode, as she luxuriates in none of the drama being about her. I also enjoyed how she went up to each and every one of those women when Dorinda got upset and told them to suck it up for Dorinda. Dorinda (and her housekeeper) clearly put a lot of effort into her home and hosting the event. Sonja is always a hoot - though I was disappointed it wasn't Dr. Sharon Giese (she always gets an annual appearance courtesy of Ramona and Sonja) doing Sonja's vaginal refresher. Sonja is a harmless mess. The only person who can possibly be hurt by Sonja is Sonja. I wish her so well, she's got the guts to get herself sorted out.

Totally agree with you on all points. I cannot stand Misse and Tanya is awful too - Tanya's really going down in my estimate next week when she insults Lauren. It it is good that the mystery of Ampika is solved - half Thai! Even though Dawn is still making petty fights her thing she's far more likeable this season than previously because she's up front and pulls no punches. Everyone saw this coming. She needs to divorce, clean up her finances (because you know he got his hands on her money) and cut him out of her life. He had always been bad news - don't ignore your family when they try to stop your wedding!

Word on pretty much everything you said. I do think Dorinda did the best she could in the circumstances. Dis-inviting Sonja was likely producer-mandated -- aka Bethenny refuses to film with TipsyGirl! How interesting that Carole does not demand the same thing with LuAnn. Looks like Carole badly needs LuAnn to hate on while LuAnn has her SLs with Bethenny, Sonja and Tom and couldn't care less. Personally I love Dorinda because she has a lot of heart. I hope she is not too deep into the *alleged* drugs. Personally I believe all the NY HWs are using/abusing something. Possibly coke. Allegedly. LuAnn's a partier. Sonja... well, we've all seen her high as a kite. Same with Ramona. Same with Dorinda. Bethenny and Jules? I don't know. Maybe as part of their weight-loss program? And Carole openly tokes and takes ecstasy because she is so hip to the 'young people' now. LuAnn owns that she loves men and loves having a good time. She smokes and parties and adores that whole nightlife/freebee invites thing. So I give her props for not pretending to be something she isn't. *side-eyes Phaedra* In NYC people are pretty open about their love life and dating around. LuAnn was totally baiting Bethenny when she said she 'helped' come up with the idea for Skinny Girl. I understand why Bethenny was pissed about that. However, Bethenny has been such an ice-cold bitch. She pretends she doesn't care about anything and is the truth-teller, but she is constantly belittling the other women. Being bitchy is not a sign of strength, it's a sign of weakness because she wants to be the only top dog on the show. I am sure she will kick LuAnn'd ass next week though for daring to suggest that Bethenny is not a lone business whizzkid. Ramona is tacky for not cleaning up after her pooping dog. NYC I loved when LuAnn and Sonja were reading the tabloids together and Sonja struck a pose and busted a move when LuAnn noted her name was in the Post. That was a moment straight out of Absolutely Fabulous. The two of them in their slips and furs and slippers in Sonja's kitchen were hilarious and they could easily be their own spinoff. I could watch a whole season of just LuAnn and Sonja dishing in that slightly crumbling townhouse. LuAnn and her guy, Tom, seem a good match. He's articulate and seems attentive and solid. And he has money, and given LuAnn's substantial Hampton's assets, she shouldn't be dating anyone below her and Tom seems to fit that bill. Jules and Michael are an adorable couple and I'm rooting for them/her. He is Polly Pocket sized but has a gentle confidence that makes him seem taller than any guy in the room. Bethenny is a straight up foul bitch. How dare she attempt to slut shame LuAnn? What a gutter move. Bethenny and Carole are so unpleasant and I really cannot fathom why Carole is still on the show as she brings NOTHING to the table this season.

Janet was amazing! Did you catch her effortless shade of Pettifleur at the beginning of the show? "Who begs to diffah? Why do you need Spanx if you are in da best shape of your life?" I died laughing. It was such a good impression. Janet clearly put some time into that one. She WAS Pettifleur in that moment and even Pettifleur couldn't say much in response to it.

Melbourne This reunion was all about "I asked you a question you dumb, fat bitch!" YAAAAAAAS JANET! I couldn't believe Lydia had the gall to talk about 'the sisterhood' when she talked trashed about each and every one of those ladies...and then couldn't even convincingly lie about it. Janet brings it at the reunions because she's the oldest, she's lived a real life, she's a classic Australian sheila and she doesn't give a damn. My heart belongs to Janet. Chyka seemed seriously over the show the whole reunion. Totally checked out. I like Jackie. I think she's a straight shooter. Gina got to sit back and observe for the most part and it's obviously her favourite position to be in. I liked Gamble this season and she did herself credit during the reunion by talking about Lydia's casual racism. That's exactly what it is. Pettifleur is demented and has demonstrated zero growth. None. If anything she's gotten worse. Suzy was pretty irrelevant all season - but the factual shade she could throw at Lydia was delicious and she served her purpose and earned her cheque.

Leeanne IS crazy...but I was also sort of rooting for her with the Dallas worthy line "I'm not having a nervous breakdown! I'm PISSED as HELL!" I don't find Marie sweet at all. She's talking crap behind someone's back who she apparently has known socially for 20 years and didn't bat at an eye lying right to her face while Bravo provided us with handy flashbacks. Cary is an outsider but she's also a straight up gold digger and ice cold to the core if anyone crossed her. I still think Tiffany would make a great fit on OC.

I loved Peggy's last scene. Back straight, head held high...like a queen.

Cheshire @Nothin'ButAttitude I totally agree with your assessment except Misse has easily surpassed Dawn in the 'bitch' department - if there's one kinda bitch I don't like it's a humourless bitch and one thing we can say for 'ol Dawn is she can laugh at herself and has a degree of self awareness. The same cannot be said for Misse. I didn't like her from day one and I've been proven correct. She's a nasty, stupid, insecure cow. And what a snob - for no good reason. Stacey is dull and pointless. She can go with Misse next season. I agree she's busy in other people's lives because she has nothing going on in her own. Lauren is a tough cookie. She sticks to Princess Margaret's adage: never complain, never explain, never apologize. She just keeps on moving forward. It'll serve her well. Tanya is pointless this season. The baby weight gain has exaggerated her filler injections bizarrely.

I need to see the Melbourne reunion...my girl Janet called Lydia a "dumb fat bitch"...Finally someone said it!

These Peggy episodes are incredible. I do hope Dame Barbara puts herself in contention for the awards season, she's done some really beautiful work worthy of praise.

Dallas has improved a lot from its boring start, yet the ratings continue to slide (downward trajectory from episode one...) so I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't renewed. A problem with the show is much of the cast isn't likeable. Between Leeanne and Brandi I can't root for either of them. Stephanie isn't very interesting, though she's nice. Cari is a pistol but I don't find her likeable either given that she basically said she stalked her (then married) boss, got him into shape and then married him. Tiffany is the most likeable and I think would have been a great choice on another franchise - like OC, because she can throw down but has a sense of humour. With OC of course Vicki is back with the group - those women know the pecking order and while it must drive Tamra nuts, Vicki is the top dog and she always will be. I wondet what this season holds for Shannon - she did just sell her house for way under the asking price. I just wish they'd get Jeana Keough back! NYC this week was a lot of what we saw last week...Bethenny is there solely for Skinny Girl Product Placement. Dorinda is a mess and needs to dump John immediately. Ramona is likeable. Carole shouldn't be on the show and brings nothing to the table. Jules is a bore. LuAnn is like a pot on the stove simmering away - you know her conflict with Bethenny is coming...and then there is Sonja and her Tipsy Girl crap. I don't blame Bethenny for cutting her off at the knees, even though it isn't really Sonja's product, she's just repping it (it's really that Peter dude)...Sonja is a nice woman, she just has no sense. She needs to simplify her life and take a personal finance course.

LVP bought Pandora and Jason a house: https://www.popsugar.com/home/Lisa-Vanderpump-Buys-Daughter-Beverly-Hills-Mansion-41246570?slide=1

I disliked Stacey and Misse from the very beginning so I'm glad we're all in agreement now. They're terribly basic and terribly bitchy for no reason at all. There are few things worse than people who insert themselves into drama for no reason at all. I like Dawn this season for the most part because she's a big mouthed Northerner and doesn't really pretend otherwise. I feel sorry for Lauren. She and Paul seemed a very good match so it's sad to see it fall apart with dignity. Tanya continues to annoy me to no end. Instead of blowing up her lips with injections she could have gone to Paris years ago and not been such a tacky tourist about it. That's an issue with these ladies: a good deal of money but no taste or culture. And yes that sounds very snobby, but it's a truth about the footballers wives. And the reason they all took jets is it would have been a long day from Manchester down to London to catch the Eurostar instead of an hour and a half flight to Paris.

RH of Dallas I LOVED Tiffany flipping out at Leeanne and then Leeanne broke the holiest of Housewives commandments and broke the 4th wall and acknowledged the cameras and her discomfort with them catching her crazy. Cary has a great life. She lucked out with the husband she stalked and styled into what she wanted. Brandi's marriage is imploding...right?

you missed Cheshire....lol Cheshire: So I finally started catching up on it. Dont like that theres like 15 housewives on the show. 7 should be the limit. The opening goes on forever bc there are so many Misse is weak and annoying. Not here for her. Im glad Tanya called out her hypocrisy in terms of what she had to say about Dawn's accent. Her husband is hot so she did at least give us that I cant stand Holly and wish she wasnt added. She is really trying it with Dawn and I do think she wanted to start sh-t. There was no reason to repeat what she heard. It was a harmless joke. I dont see how she helped Misse or what good that caused I like Zima the most out of the new wives When LeAnn said she had to run and tell Dawn, I thought oh look there goes Lapdog. However she later turns on Dawn and Tanya when it comes to Misse and seems to grow a backbone. She seemed to have changed but when it came to Paris, she reverts Lauren. She and Paul always seemed like a good fit together and he not even doing this season speaks volumes. I knew things were heading downhill when she defiantly got that tattoo. Its her body but she shouldnt have done it knowing he hates them. He was pissed and I guess he never got over that Still miss Magali. Her absence is felt You're right! I forgot all about it! Caught up: Lauren: she was hilarious on the shopping channel - she is unfiltered. I'm so glad she told Misse she was stupid for thinking Ampika wasn't right to speak to Ashley. Tanya: I don't like this broad anymore. She is so annoying this season. Leanne is a stripper made good and there's not much else to say about her. She was so dumb to talk about the flight to Paris that she isn't invited on and then greedily eyed up the ring Wes gave her. Dawn is fun to watch and in some ways she makes the show. Her "Everyone Shut Your Gob!" made me laugh because she knew how awful it sounded and has some level of self awareness. Seema is a great addition but I can see her becoming a classic Season 2 syndrome housewife. Stacy and Misse are both boring duds. Misse is a hater and thinks she has taste and style - yet she looks like a high end hooker. Stacy is irrelevant and boring. She brings nothing to the show. Ampika was a showstopper and she really made me laugh with "This can go one of two ways. They'll either hate it or they'll really hate it!"

In Melbourne news...Chyka has quit and will not be returning next season per her Instagram!