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Comings and goings were way more frequent in the 80's.
The one hour format was part of that, but if you look at the 70's some shows might have 3/4 new characters in a year . By the 80's they were many more contract players and short term characters used for a particular story.
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Abortion was dealt with for the first time.
Erica AMC, Kathy SFT, Connie RTPP, Marianne AW and probably a few others all had abortions and didn't suffer greatly as a result. And others considered it, but changed their minds.
And homosexuality was touched upon with Mike and Sharon on Days and Joanne/Kay on Y&R.
Inter racial relationships with David/Val on Days.
But these were isolates, definitely not a trend or even the beginning of one.
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51 minutes ago, Antoyne said:
Crimson Lights is a nice spacious office for her with coffee and pastries to boot!
That set is badly in need of a makeover.
Nice to see Esther-the show needs those kind of talk to characters. And Esther isn't being presented as a ditz.
honestly, with better writing and improved production values, Y&R is still viable.
Maybe if Mulcahey can work some magic at GH they might show Griffith the door. And get a new EP.
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70's ATWT and disco together is a mind blowing concept.
I think Love of Life had a disco also.
It was always amusing to see the extras bopping along to music that was added in later.
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55 minutes ago, janea4old said:
CEO Sharon meeting with her senior staff via zoom ... from Crimson Lights. It's clearly supposed to be a full formal meeting and not just a random conversation.
Well CL is the perfect place to hold a meeting. Sharon certainly won't be distracted-it's not like she will be disturbed by customers.
11 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:I know I am being nitpicky
Yes you are -fancy expecting the show to explain the business model or depict it with any realism!
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Dame Joan at the Emmys standing patiently while some gushy reporter spent more time talking than actually interviewing finally got around to asking La Collins 'What story she was telling with your outfit?'
Joan crisply replied, 'I'm not telling a story but I am wearing a dress designed by etc
Score one for JC.
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Most likely that was on set, not Gloria's office unless she had it decorated like a living room.
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Jack/Victor crossing paths at Society. I'm sorry but I can't buy these two as frenemies, after all Victor has done. It seemed like Eric was reading his lines off the counter. Maybe not, but his halting delivery makes it appear so.
Very contrived having Nikki turning to Jack with sobriety issues.
Chance/Summer look good together. Connor was fine in that suit.
Demerit points to Audra for a backless dress in the office.
I focus a lot on the visuals because the stories are not interesting.
One thing I applauded from vet director Sally MacDonald was the Society and GCAC scenes utilized tight shots so the lack of other customers was not noticeable. Quite effective.
However when Esther was serving Nikki and Diane at CL there was one extra who was not really in camera and the rest of the place was empty. Looks crap.
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I think there is a rehearsal, although different soaps may have different practices.
Maybe they do a run through on set and then begin taping.
They would not be able to just turn up and tape. Camera angles, movements etc have to be set up.
OTTOMH,there used to be a table read/discussion, a run through, a run through on set to make adjustments, dress rehearsal and final taping.
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1 hour ago, Donna L. Bridges said:
I don't follow. The idea that Cass was Maggie's father was a new idea.
Cecile gave birth in April 82 so therefore became pregnant in 81 when she was involved with Jamie and Sandy and was onscreen. The story at the time hinted that Jamie may have been Maggie's father.
Cass arrived in July 82. When he met her she already had an infant. I don't know if the rewrite addressed this or just pretended Cass and Cecile were involved when she got pregnant.
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Enough with the deaths.
Couldn't Maxie and her brood just leave town?
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Love of Life had a story in the early 70's set around ESP, which was a big thing at the time.
Did any other show touch on 70's trends/fads/buzzwords etc?
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The Young Marrieds was set in Queens Point, near the locale of General Hospital.
Jessie (a phone call) Dr Ken Martin and Dr George Lyons from General Hospital made appearances on TYM.
Makes sense to me.
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1 hour ago, Donna L. Bridges said:
A high point for Cecile was when she abandoned the scam she'd been running by saying that Cass was her daughter Maggie's father & admitted that he was not.
Well I'd call that a low point in that it completely rewrote history and insulted long time viewers.
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When I saw them hinting at Victor/Christine, I threw up a little in my mouth.
The man was old enough to be her father-how would she find him attractive on any level? The women who went with Victor were pretty much either weak or scheming.
And both Victor and Christine could both be extremely annoying so them together would have been too much.
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The circle of rings motif was something AW should have kept in the later openings.
The 82 opening kept it at the beginning which was great but that should have been the main theme. The silhouetted 'lovers' was lame and I didn't really like the block letters.
Then the Crystal Gayle opening came in and hearing that song day after day for years was annoying.
Finally the generic ER ripoff.
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Thanks for this. I have never seen it online before. Let's hope 2024 uncovers more treasures.
First I've seen of Jada as Amy that young. Poor Mr Jiminez didn't get a credit. Maybe someone will recognize the actor.
How many calendar bracelets were purchased from that promo? I wonder if this sort of promo was used often?
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Came across this listing for Wed May 11 1983 for Des Moines Iowa
The NBC affiliate did not show Days of Our Lives. Pre-empted for movies chopped up for showing over consecutive days.
13 - WHO (NBC)
5:00 am - Nightwire
6:00 am - AgDay
6:30 am - Early Today
7:00 am - Today
9:00 am - The Facts of Life
9:30 am - Sale of the Century
10:00 am - Wheel of Fortune
10:30 am - Dream House
11:00 am - New Battlestars
11:30 am - Search for Tomorrow
12:00 pm - News
12:15 pm - Duane and Friend
12:30 pm - Movie "Kelly's Heroes" (1970) (Conclusion)
1:00 pm - Movie "The Cowboys" (1972) (Part 1 of 2)
2:30 pm - Another World
3:30 pm - Floppy ShowBY Tues Nov 12 1985 Days was back in the schedule
13 - WHO (NBC)
6:00 am - Morning Agriculture Report
6:30 am - NBC News at Sunrise
7:00 am - Today
9:00 am - Your Number's Up
9:30 am - Sale of the Century
10:00 am - Break the Bank
10:30 am - Scrabble
11:00 am - Super Password
11:30 am - Wheel of Fortune
12:00 pm - News
12:15 pm - Duane & Friend
12:30 pm - Days of Our Lives
1:30 pm - Another World
2:30 pm - Search for Tomorrow
3:00 pm - Newlywed Game
3:30 pm - Let's Make a Deal
4:00 pm - Love Connection0 -
I'll believe an invitation was extended to Beverlee, but I don't think she would have accepted.
From everything I've read, she didn't seem the sentimental type and wouldn't be bothered returning to a show she left 19 years before that was being cancelled. And the fact that only Rachel was still around from her era wouldn't be much of an inducement.
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1 minute ago, Donna L. Bridges said:
It was said recently that Bill Hayes's Doug singing live was the first one.
I think Gene Bua (Bill Prentiss) on Love of Life preceded Doug.
And Mary Stuart definitely sang live on SFT.
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Cancellations were a feature of the 70's.
CBS cancelled Where The Heart Is, Love Is a Many Splendored Thing and Secret Storm within the space of a year and dropped Edge of Night also. And only introduced one new show Y&R.
ABC cancelled Dark Shadows,Best of Everything and A World Apart.
NBC cancelled Bright Promise, Return to Peyton Place, How To Survive A Marriage, Somerset, Lovers and Friends and For Richer For Poorer.
So only 3 successful soaps were introduced in the 70's - AMC, RH and Y&R.
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How did that story of Agnes killing off the Gregory family on AW begun?
Alex was killed in an offscreen car crash. That was it. The rest were just written out.
As for GH having more sets,maybe it's simply that the available studio space is larger so the sets themselves are bigger and there's space for more of them.
Does GH still do daily set changes ie a crew comes in each day to erect sets?
Do we know the taping schedule? One of the actors talked in SOD a few months ago about going in the afternoon and taping into the evening, which I thought was a big no these days due to overtime payment issues.
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Looking at the Brad in a Cage location clip posted in the Old Articles thread, highlighted the contrast with the Nikki/Jordan story.
Location filming, and a longer term, more suspenseful tale.
Not just a bunch of people standing in a room in the culmination of a plot that lasted a few weeks.
2 minutes ago, Beachstorm said:Why are there so many posters who still think that the Billy/Summer one-time sex event is relevant to anything on this show anymore? It wouldn't change a damn thing with anyone.
If it had have come up when Billy and Phyllis were still together maybe.
But it's like Billy/Sharon, Cole/Nikki, Jack/Sharon...no longer mentioned or relevant.
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Gwynn Gillis
Guiding Light Molly Randall
Guiding Light Blair Van Houten
Gwynn Gillis lists these roles in her book 'The ABC of Soaps'
Her character descriptions
Blair was a clothes horse, always pursuing the best designer
with the most elegant gowns. She’d lunch with her friends at posh
restaurants and try to stay on a her strict diet, to no avail. She
always had to buy new clothes because “nothing fit.” She briefly
appeared to help Mindy’s design career by commissioning her to
create a party dress in a day. Due to a snowstorm, Mindy lost her
car keys and never delivered the dress. Mrs. Van Houten never
forgave her for leaving her hanging with the dreaded reality that
she had to wear “last year’s dress,” which obviously didn’t fit,
wrecking her evening. Blair had a sense of humor, but only about
her diet, not her clothes.Molly was a ruthless district attorney running for re-election
during a highly publicized murder trial in Springfield. Rather than
carefully prosecute a visible case with indisputable evidence, Molly
rushed in to arrest unlikely suspects, including Laura, who was
pregnant, just to capitalize on the publicity and guarantee her
re-election. When the evidence couldn't withstand court scrutiny,
she blamed several high-ranking police detectives and the police
commissioner. Molly was re-elected, though the lives of all those
arrested were destroyed—Laura lost her child and her marriage;
she was given a prison sentence, along with several others.Blair I can see as a short term role but Molly is a mystery.Who was Laura? Perhaps Gwynn misremembered the characters actual name?
Can any GL fans help out?
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Y&R: January 2024 Discussion Thread
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The floor plan is fine but the decor is not. The jukebox, robot and creepy puppet wall deco in the bin. A contemporary makeover like any viable business would take on after decades.
Especially when they expect us to believe wealthy characters like Nikki would stop in for a coffee. The place needs to go upmarket. Serve casual meals at night so it would be another option for characters to dine at . Less formal than Society or GCAC.