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The fact that they have delayed it has dampened my expectations somewhat. It suggests that they are hastily trying to re-cut the season and find some excitement in the footage. Honestly, I wouldn't mind a 12-episode season for BH if that is the case. Keep it pacey. I don't need filler. The past three seasons have been filler enough! I am also hesitant about the new BH production team. ATL changed its longtime production team around S9-10 and ever since I haven't been able to completely connect with the show. Could this happen with BH too? We get a new production team bringing in 'catchy' music and speedy Kardashianesque jump-cuts and whatnot, but ultimately not understanding the show or the women and not really caring to go deeper with them. I am re-watching S5 ("You don't know what I go through AT NIGHT!" / Amsterdam / Brandi imploding) -- what a fun and wild ride that was. The drama and personal interactions were intense. And lord help me but I really liked Yolanda that season.

Finally got to watch ATL. OK, so Kenya: I acknowledge that she and her marriage are literally carrying the show this season. There is nothing else going on otherwise. I want to feel bad for her, but when she goes out of her way to target Tanya and Marlo, I can't. WTH did Tanya ever do to her? That cookie lady stunt was so hurtful. She even acts shady towards her BFF Cynthia. So when Marc treats her like he does, I can't help but think 'What's good for the goose...' When Kenya was talking to Cynthia about accepting Mike Hill's past and not just falling for who you want him to be, I couldn't help but think that is what happened with Kenya and Marc. Both were attracted to the image each other projected, and to what the other person could do for them. When they discovered that both are gold-star assholes who go low and petty, well, as karmic as that is, it put paid to the marriage. Marc seriously hates her. Like he goes out of his way to kiss up to Nene and Marlo because he knows that drives Kenya nuts. This. She used that event to lord it over those she dislikes in particular. Hiding Marlo's nephews in the back -- they are the target demographic for this non-profit! To her, this was meant to be K and Marc's big married-couple moment for the cameras, but it ended up exposing their individual pettiness big-time. And he is just.... THE WORST. Greta Garbo over here wants to be left alone?? Bullshit. He used this charity event (and his connections with the RHOA husbands) to burnish his own image and raise his profile. Then he throws a hissy fit about the cameras being there too long! They were there long enough to capture his speech, though! Lucky for him! He pretends to be Mr. Super-Private, but that tantrum was all about getting noticed and showing Kenya the finger (metaphorically).

@DynamiteKiddo I thought I was the only one who missed Siggy Flicker! I mean, she was crazy and obsessive and it was exhausting to watch how obsessed she was with punishing Marge. But the season she self-destructed was one of NJ's best. I still wish she hadn't been fired. After all, she had ok relationships with Teresa and Melissa, and of course Dolores. That Marge-Siggy rivalry could have been one for the ages, especially adding Danielle and Jennifer to that crazy mix! S1 NJ imo was already toxic but S2 ramped it up another level and set the template for years to come. Melissa basically owes her entire TV career to Danielle uttering those famous words to Teresa at S2 reunion: "Did you acknowledge your nephew?" Andy's eyes lit up interestedly, and when Teresa shoved Andy to get to Danielle, production knew they had found Tre's hot button for S3 onwards. Danielle and Melissa apparently corresponded throughout S2 on Facebook, so she'd better watch out because something tells me Danielle still has those messages saved somewhere.

There *is* something deeply tragic about Danielle. As we learned in S1 and S2, Danielle has been rejected all her life, and she probably counts her Sicilian teenage mother giving her up for adoption as the first rejection. I will always remember when Danielle found out her birth mother died before they could ever meet. It felt like such a blow on top of everything else Danielle was going through -- the Manzos, Lauritas and Giudices essentially made her a pariah in Franklin Lakes, while Kims G and D hastily switched teams to join them. Danielle desperately wanted acknowledgement that she had been wronged, and the other women were never going to give that to her. But I think the most powerful visual I remember from her early seasons was Jacqueline Laurita (no innocent bystander) taunting Danielle to come out from the car. This was just after Teresa had chased Danielle through the Posche fashion show and Ashlee had yanked her weave out, and it was a chilling moment. As for the Marge, I love her wit, smarts and moments of empathy, so I'm pretty much drinking the Kool-Aid as far as she is concerned. But Bravo's got me questioning everybody's true intentions on these shows! Obviously these women are actual real people, multifaceted and complicated, so they can't always fit a one-dimensional heroine mould. I do wonder if there is more to Marge than we are shown, though, and when the mask will start to slip. @chrisml I don't think anyone was blaming Melissa for what Teresa did. That is all on Teresa. She has acted this way since S1, stirring people up against a common target. What I was saying was that I think Melissa was lowkey happy to broadcast this nugget of information for her own ends.

I actually enjoyed Melissa pretending to run Envy because it usually meant Kim D would be showing up on her broomstick to announce that she was selling surplus Envy stock at an 80% discount, lol. @DynamiteKiddo had a great point about the Jersey HWs exhibiting the bad side of their characters with the good. Danielle is no exception. I feel bad for the constant rejection/banishment from her friendship groups. However, the reason she gets rejected is because she is a loon who demands that her friends be utterly devoted to her 24/7. She must be exhausting to deal with.

Oh, I'm not denying that Teresa was guilty. The footage is there for everyone to see. Teresa is highly threatened by Marge's popularity. I guess I'm a bit paranoid when it comes to the RHs! I assume people are strategizing behind the scenes, and I don't trust Melissa when she acts like the innocent bearer with bad news. I feel like she would love for Teresa to be in the doghouse while she comes out smelling like a rose. Perhaps BH was the wrong analogy. Maybe more OC? 😄 Reunion should be good, especially now that Margaret knows Teresa hates her guts. Agree with all this. And Kathy & Rosie got thrown under the bus by Melissa & Joey. I wish they would spill the beans! Enjoyed the finale a lot. Sala Consilina took me back to that great episode in S2, and the girls clearly adore their father. The main reason I want Teresa to stay on the show is because I love to watch her family. I even enjoyed that mini season 'Teresa Checks In' when it was all about the dawters, and littke Milania was wielding that shaver over Joe's hairy back like a pro, lol.

Given that production had been stringng Danielle along for 3 long years -- despite a televised engagement, wedding and hair-pulling fight with Marge -- the least they can do is put her next to Andy. I'm not sure why Danielle doesn't get a HW spot. Surely she doesn't cost much. Is it Marge pulling rank? Or maybe even Teresa? Once Danielle gets to be a HW again, she might be less inclined to kiss up to Tre. Like @NothinButAttitude said, NJ has lost some steam after two great seasons. Don't get me wrong, I am entertained by NJ whenever I watch. But I'm not always impatient to watch the next episode, you know? I am excited for the finale tho. Jennifer has earned her spot and made it all about her this season. I enjoy watching her. The thing annoying me atm is some of the Team Marge/Melissa/Jackie machinations. Just like they are exiling Danielle from the group, Jennifer is now their next target. I was disappointed that Joe Gorga took a shot at Bill a few episodes back; the husbands normally stay out of the women's drama and go out for drinks, and I like it that way. Obviously Melissa got him to do that. Ultimately, Team M/M/J are out to isolate Teresa. I feel like Melissa in particular is showing her hand here. Luckily, Teresa knows this, and she's already jealous of Marge's popularity, which is why she sicced Danielle on Marge. I hope that these BH-style machinations get thoroughly exposed at reunion. I also hope Danielle spills the tea on Melissa. Melissa will probably claim that Danielle is crazy and a liar, as everyone does when Danielle exposes them, but Danielle's 'lies' have a way of actually being true.

Hopefully Karen is just being her sometimes-overdramtic self, probably to make a point to Candiace who is acting out. I doubt Dame Karen (hell, any of the Potomac women) cost a lot of money for Bravo, and I hope they know her value to the show, because it is immense. She OWNED Ashley and Gizelle's asses in the final part of reunion last year. And Bravo knows it because if I recall correctly, they posted some of it on YT and the comments overflowed with fans cheering Karen on. I don't even blame her for losing it with Michael, especially the way he cheated on her and financially abandoned her and his kids for his new sidepiece.

Whoa whoa whoa what?? Why would they touch la Grande Dame?? Their precious Gizelle needs the conflict!

At BravoCon, Teresa's event got a LOT of fans. She is actually pretty ok with a live audience. I'm sure Bravo was taking note. I think she is one of the few OGs remaining who is safe for now. I wish Danielle hadn't left the franchise so abruptly, as batshit as she is. This latest story that Teresa set her up only reinforces the need for her to return, for a spot at reunion at least. Revenge is a dish best served cold, as Danielle well knows!

Omg 😄 Is that...Vicki?!

So... the BH rumor in Lomdon is that PK is still here. And he is still here because Dorit has asked for a divorce. Unconfirmed, but that's the whisper here.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8011711/Champagne-Dame-Kyla-Kirkpatrick-set-join-upcoming-season-Real-Housewives-Melbourne.html

OK I am getting lowkey worried now that they are editing out the Denise-Brandi 'affair' ! Yes, I know I said that Brandi and the whole thing was trash. That doesn't mean I didn't want to watch that mess! Teddi is onto her third season with BH, Dorit her fourth. Let that sink in. And Rinna and Erika have spent the past two seasons totally checked out in some weird silent protest at LVP's presence on the show. What will be their excuse this time?

@Chris B @NothinButAttitude Oh, I'm not sorry Jackie is gone -- I was ready for her departure that one season when all we saw was her interminable Shine, Shine, Shine tour. I did enjoy her last season when she went up against Lydia, when Lydia said Janet had been speaking out of turn about Jackie. Which I believe, although Lydia exaggerated it. I also believe Lydia boinked Shane Ward (cricket legend who used to date Liz Hurley but couldn't keep it in his pants) and that's why her husband does not appear on the show anymore. In fact, it was Jackie who first revealed that rumor onscreen in S2 or S3, I think. Lydia has been gunning for Jackie ever since. My feeling is that Jackie told Foxtel she would only stay if Lydia was fired, and the producers balked at her demand. The hate is genuine with these two.

Wait, Jackie is out?? She is hugely popular in Australia! Glad Lydia is back, totally the dumbest b*tch on reality TV. And glad the show is back to filming after a long hiatus. I suspect the terrible bushfires postponed filming earlier this year. Sad to think that so much of Australia's natural greenery and unique wildlife perished. I wonder if RHOMel will touch upon it this season. Part of the fun of the show involved weekend jaunts to a beautiful country vineyard or horse lodge (unlike BH nowdays, which is a jaunt to an Erika Jayne concert!). Melbourne is the most glamorous show for me. The faraway locale is part of it, but also the lifestyle whispers (as opposed to screams) legitimately great. It probably won't be screened until later in 2020 but I'm really looking forward to it. I wouldn't mind Venus given a second season, and I'm almost sorry Sally didn't get a second go. She was snooty and unlikeable (another Andrea from S1), but sometimes you need a character like that on these shows. I definitely wish Chyka would return, but she won't without Jackie there.

Oh no! I hope nobody was seriously hurt!

I mean... I dread to think of the drunk Tres Amigos making fun of an Asian newbie. They are really keeping Garcelle on lockdown over at BH. When news was announced that she had been hired (seems like AGES ago), the excitement around her was really high. She sounded amazing in her quick People interview. Since then... tumbleweeds. Wendy Williams asked Erika about Gracelle last week but Erika didn't really say anything about her. I hope Garcelle gets to do some press for BH soon.

Ooooo, finally an Asian American! (Korean-American if her last name is anything to go by). And she has an actual vocation! She sounds outgoing and interesting, too. A shame Cary Deuber is no longer a regular HW as she and Tiffany would have the medical field in common. Dr. Tiffany Moon obviously being smart, a physician, etc., I hope Leeanne doesn't become all insecure and turn the entire season into how the edumacated newbie looks down on her. Also: what the hell do Dr. Tiffany and Brandi have to talk about? Or her and Kary? Can't wait for those convos about Kary's necklace line. Meanwhile, at NY fashion week: Issa Rae, creator and star of Insecure (can't wait for S3) is pulling a I don't know ha. I just want to say that the link to this tweet was from a gossip blog which referred to Rinna and her offspring as "a Real Housewife and her dollar store Hadid daughters." I recognised the dark-haired daughter who went through anorexia (though she might have a new nose now). But woah, did anybody recognise the other one? She looks completely different! Rinna looks the same surprisingly, and thankfully.

Sometimes I love it (see above) but sometimes I wish she would get some help. She can't hold her drink. In any case, the funniest Sonja is Lucid Sonja in her VTs, talking about how she cropped Cindy Chupack out of all her Morocco photos. Omg I can't wait for Potomac either! Usually it starts around Easter but all the RH shows seem to have been pushed back a few months. I don't know if I can take fake ass Ashley pretending she has a hot n steamy marriage with oh-so-hetero Michael, though, lol.

The more I think about it, the more I am excited about seeing RHONY again. I hadn't realized how much I had missed the show until that trailer. I've said this before, but the show has this way of making viewers feel like the RHONY just go their merry business and do whatever they want, regardless of whether a camera crew is there or not. And the women have this quick wit and weird bond which keeps the show moving and grooving. They can literally say anything to each other and its NBD. As you say, RHONY often delivers on the light and genuinely funny stuff. RHOBH is going to be somewhat mean-spirited, I can feel it. I am genuinely surprised there hasn't been a trailer yet. Which makes me wonder if production is re-working the season, perhaps even re-shoots.

I hope this doesn't dissuade people from turning in, because RHONY is my favorite franchise and I want it to get all the viewers it can! It's been a little slow on the HWs front recently so I cannot wait for this to start. Wish it was March instead of April. Cons: yes, it does look like the last 3 seasons. And the new HW is giving me Braunwyn vibes -- without the interesting backstory. Pros: Luann looks amazing, and woahhhh I felt her thrill when she sipped that vodka. Speaking of vodka, looks like we are finally delving deep into Dorinda's issues. I am excited for the chemistry and focus on the Core 4 which is far and away my biggest reason for loving this franchise.

@chrisml if you hate Shannon, you may want to speed jauntily through the end of S10 as well as seasons 11 and 12. She hits peak self-righteous mode then. Shannon and Tamra had such a good cop/bad cop mean-girl vibe together that it will be interesting to see Shannon without Tamra there to do all the dirty work.

I saw that. She also did one of her Chicago numbers with what looked like a minimum of steps (and minimum of Fosse hands). Ann Reinking she ain't, though she looks the part. I don't know why, but a part of me likes Erika and always hoped she and LVP would reach a meeting of the minds. I like that she reads people well. Another part hates that how contrived she has become -- and how bitter and bored she seems on the show. I wish Bravo would release Garcelle from whichever dungeon they put her in and let her do press for BH. Wendy even asked Erika about her so it's not just me who is curious about how she handles herself on the show.