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I don't know the extent Irna Phillips stayed involved. She turned over the writing duties to John Young in 1942. Young guided the show through its evolution as it morphed into the political crime drama in the early 1950s (the years Miles Nelson was governor) and then back into a class warfare drama with working girl Grace Driscoll trying to marry with upper class Skip Kramer. Young ended up writing for television, but his original series, "Golden Windows," was quickly cancelled. Also, when he took over "From These Roots," there are several fan comments in the newspapers speaking of the displeasure with the sudden focus on political and criminal elements. Claudia Morgan is an attractive woman, but I don't know how much work she did in television. I think she easily could have carried the show for another 20 years.

I'll look for them and type them up. I know there are a lot of brief episode listings for the early episodes available in markets that the show aired in primetime. If I come across any of those that I've saved I'll try to post them as well.

I'm pretty sure they were published in the Soap Opera Encyclopedia from 1987. I want to say it was around 1.7 to 2.0. I'm sure most of this was a disaster, but I really wish material would show up from the last six months of the show. I would love to see the show once it shifted from the college stories to a lot more of the business dealings with Carter and C.J. I actually picked up a press kit for when the show premiered that included several pages of a character biographies for the show, but they don't appear to be from either version of the show that we know about (the unaired pilot or the series). These bios seem to be from a Rituals 1.5 for lack of a better term. The Priscilla Lawson character is called "Laura" in the character sketches and there is a biography for a character who clearly becomes Patrick Chapin. In this version, there are also hints that there may have been another untraditional matriarch figure, a female college president who would be dating the "Patrick Chapin" type. If anyone is interested, I'll post some more about it.

Great find! Thanks. I forgot the show was down to only 10 minutes in the last year or two. Still you get two very interesting scenes. The Braden storyline is very compelling. When Anne starts telling Victor and Kitty she heard Dick's music coming up the walk, I really began to feel for her. Kitty's comment about not wanting her parents to fight was something I don't feel like we would get today. Anne's decision to leave Victor also seemed pretty surprising. I also liked that there was some nice build to all this by having Carolyn share with Lee about the trip that Grace and Anne had taken from the prison. I still think this one could have easily transitioned to television.

I need to clarify. Apparently, all Cooper did was touch Selina's breast. In the flashback scene, Tyler and Cynthia surprise 12 year old Cooper in his bedroom with the two in bed. They seem to jump to conclusions and Cooper develops a complex. The lead up is actually pretty decent. Cooper ends up going to therapy with Dr. Turner for one session where he skirts around his sexual problems (he seems to be impotent, but they never have either character say that). Turner even asks Cooper if he is gay, and this is handled with more care than I expected. A lot of the story is written as if Cooper isn't sure what has happened; did it happen or did he make it up? Later, Nixon rectifies the story and ends up having Cooper say Selena molested him, but that doesn't happen until about June 1994. Addie Walsh is credited in the August 1992 episodes I've gotten to. I guess she will remain listed as writer even though Granger unofficially has taken over. The show's plots are pretty lame, but the character interaction is really strong. The most fascinating element of all of this is how many forgotten plots are playing out. The show basically spends all of 1992 trying to make Stacey and Trucker a thing. Also, Ava is now involved in this "Phantom of the Opera"-esque storyline involving the mystery owner of the store involving some rather involved dream sequences with people who do not appear to be James Carroll playing the role of Mr. Burnell. The Giff / Trisha pairing and Giff's insanity pop up almost instantly. The change in Giff is drastic and not subtle at all. The show quickly burns through plot: the custody situation for baby Christopher is resolved by Lynn Thigpeg in about 2 episodes, Gwyn and Clay married in June and have annulled the marriage in August, and the whole Selena story is over. There seems to be more energy and direction with the younger crew now that its pretty much Casey / Ally and Cooper / Hannah. The fall out of Kent tampering with the breaks leads to some nice Ally scheming; she befriends Isabelle (in another hospital room recovering from her heart attack) and lands a stint at the Alden mansion as Isabelle's companion. Ava learns of the scheme and calls Ally on her masquerade. It's actually really nice. Ava also happens to be at the mansion when news of Jack's death reaches that Aldens. We get a brief, underplayed, reaction to that which was nice. I definitely enjoy HOW the characters are involved in different stories, just not the stories themselves. Casey and Ally's first kiss was well done and that's a dynamic that works well. The show has now transitioned into the brief 35 Maple Street storyline which means I get to look forward to the ghost storyline. 1992 is such a mess.

I've been watching the episodes from the time period Casey was introduced. As I viewer, I could immediately connect with Paul Anthony Stewart's Casey. He's strong, silent, and deeply emotional. He was the perfect successor to Eric Woodall's Matt Ford, who's departure left a big hole on the canvas. I'm curious about what the plan was originally for Casey. He is mentioned as early as late December or early January 1992 when Giff informs Gwyn that Casey (then called Revel) had visited him for Christmas (offscreen) as well as mentioning that Revel was a musician. In January, Walsh takes over and Matt briefly joins a band with a character named James who makes a move on Ally during a short rebellion period from Ally. It's Matt and Ally's final story, but I wonder if James was what Mary Ryan Munisteri intended Revel to be, a bit of a threat to the Ally / Matt coupling. After Matt departs, Ally's story involves going to school and scheming to get into Giff Bowman's art class. It's a very brief storyline that involves Ally faking a pregnancy in order to gain Giff's confidence while at the same time she is dealing with the fact that her mother Bonnie is pregnant by her artist boyfriend, who Bonnie plans to marry. In some ways, Taggart will repeat the story in a year with Jeremy Hunter and Hannah Mayberry, but I can only imagine that the Giff/Ally story was meant to create some natural tension for an Ally / Casey pairing down the line. Yet, I haven't seen any indication in the material I have that Giff had any issue with Ally. The Casey / Ava flirtation is also interesting, maybe because I forgot that soaps use to do little chemistry tests like this. I haven't reviewed all the clips, but I imagine those Casey clips include some of the cocaine smuggling storyline involving Basil and Burnell's. It surprises me that the show seems to continue to play this coupling afterwards with Ava oblivious to Casey's romantic intentions, while Casey seems to overread every reaction Ava has even while the show has Casey continue as Ally's confidante. It seems, to me at least, that in the summer of 1992 the show intends Ally to be a longterm spoiler for Cooper and Hannah with no clear indication where they are going with Casey. He has feelings for Ally, he spends a lot of time with Hannah, and then he has a crush on Ava. In a way, it's nice to watch something where the story isn't set in stone because there still seems to be some direction. The younger set introduced in 1992 is pretty strong, but I think its a rougher start than most remember probably because (smartly) the show launches the frat/sorority storyline in late March and pretty much drops that angle by early summer. Kent is written out after the Casablanca Dance, all the supporting characters from the early days of the story aren't even present at the dance, and Staige morphs into a sounding board for Ally when previously she seems to have the potential to be a leading character. Even Rebecca Gayheart, who can be annoying with her sickeningly sweet voice, seems to have found a better way to attack the character of Hannah. It's truly been astounishing to watch the resolution of Coop's secret. He manages to get a P.I. to track Selena Walker to Minneapolis where she is working as a nurse. In Minneapolis, he asks her what happened the night of his birthday and we get an actual flashback of before and after Selena and Cooper slept together (with a brief glimpse at Tyler and Cynthia Alden reacting to their twelve year old son in bed with his governess). The dialogue states that Cooper wanting to sleep with Selena, that Selena pitied him so she did, and that Tyler and Cynthia were wrong for running Selena out of Cooper's life. I cannot imagine a show doing this storyline with a gender reversal of an older man saying a young girl wanted to have sex with him. It's really uncomfortable to watch as the actor playing Cooper in the flashback plays Coop as so innocent and unaware of the sexual nature of the scenes. This also plays alongside a rather over the top scene of Stacey (who I believe was headed to the Caribbean) rushing into the Alden patio to announce that Jack has been lost at sea. The younger set certainly brings an energy to the show when a lot of the other parts weren't as gripping.

I'm in the final episodes I have of May 1992. There is a five week gap in episodes. When I resume, it will be late June. It is clear that there has been a change in production. Establishing shots for scenes have been introduced and we have a greater sense of what Corinth feels like. The story also is taking us outside of Corinth. The mystery of the love nest at the Tides has Stacey and Trucker in Atlanta meeting with Tim Sullivan and his friend/neighbor Mary-Pat (played by soap vet Peg Murray). The Atlanta excursion is a bit bizarre as it leads to a building attraction between Stacey and Trucker. I didn't realize this was a story beat that was played this early. Trucker and Stacey nearly kiss in Atlanta, but it seems all but forgotten upon returning to Corinth. In Colorado, Giff visits his first wife's grave to celebrate her birthday where we meet the last member of the younger set, Revel Bowman. Revel is now going by Casey in honor of his late mother (Alise Casey Bowman). Paul Anthony Stewart is a find. He immediately throws himself into Casey's lost boy soulfulness which makes the character immediately likeable compared to most of the rest of the newly introduced younger set. A dayplayer artist pal of Giff, Oliver, returns to reveal that Trisha is also in Colorado. Trisha returns mid-May after being absent since mid-February (Noelle Beck's second maternity leave). Trucker and Trisha's reunion is a mess. Trucker's PI has tracked Giff and Trisha down to Porter's Point or wherever the commune was and immediately trashes the place and attacks Giff. It's the over the top reaction I've come to expect under Walsh, but I'm not sure if Walsh is still writing. The scenes in Colorado are a mixed bag. Trisha's return grounds her motivation in her own history that is very relevant to the current story (she doesn't want to raise her child the way she was raised around volatile Gwyn and Clay) and Beck is glowing post pregnancy. I'm not sure what the plan is for Trucker and Trisha. They are back tracking now; the previously happily reunited Trisha and Trucker are now at each other's throats. There is definitely groundwork being laid for Trisha / Giff (Casey notices the attraction), but none of this seems to be heading anywhere good. It's clear that Walsh and Granger had no idea of how to use Richard Cox's Giff, which is a shame since he was such a breath of fresh air under Ryan Munisteri. In other segments of the story, the AE story is becoming more intriguing. Both Shana and Jack have been completely sidelined since the end of the Take Off story in late April. Shana and Larry have an attempt at an emotional moment after Shana learns she and Jack have been scammed, but it has no impact on Jack and Shana's stories. It does, however, fuel Isabelle's plot to push Gwyn forward as CEO of AE after ousting Jack for misappropriating funds into a project that was a fraud. The AE stockholders appear fairly regularly, Howard (an older gentleman who acts as Isabelle's partner in crime) and Ellen Saunders (an older woman who seems fairly recognizable). Gwyn's pursuit of the CEO position lures Clay back into the fold, which is a great story point. Pompous Clay doesn't believe Gwyn can handle it, while Jack and Shana call out Isabelle for using Gwyn to get Clay back on board. It's a shining moment for Christine Tudor Newman. She does so much with so very little. She interacts well with everyone in her story. There are also just some nice moments for Gwyn. At the art studio, Gwyn reconnects with Giff hoping to use Giff to help her lure a board member to her side. It's a nice moment that is used to show a dynamic that is missing on this show: friendship. Anyway, it's now officially a Dinahlee / Clay / Gwyn triangle. In a very well done scene, Dinahlee confesses to Louie she fears she will always feel like an outsider among Clay's family while Bonnie Raitt's "I Can't Make You Love Me" plays in the bowling alley. Clay confronts Gwyn at the opera and Gwyn tells Clay to get Dinahlee out of town if he loves her (Dinahlee). Later, Clay and DInahlee accept a job offer in Chicago to work as executives for a bowling conglomerate that wants to buy Pins. The job offer provides Clay and Dinahlee with a decent conflict that plays on what Walsh has been building for the past five months. At the start of the month, Carly, Paul, and Michael are shipped off to New York. There story was awful under Walsh so I don't miss them. In revisiting their story under Walsh, Carly and Paul had a lot of plot but it never was developed. Michael had a serious heart condition, Carly and Michael moved to New York, Carly reunites with Flynn, Flynn and Carly become engaged, Paul realizes he loves Carly, Carly tells Flynn she loves Paul leading to Flynn's fatal hit and run, and Carly develops a bit of a drinking problem. It all sounds exciting, but it is all so poorly executed. What is most surprising is Ava remains on the backburner almost the entire time. As her relationship collapses, Ava takes the high road and maturely accepts defeat when it comes to Carly and Paul. Lisa Peluso does some fine work, but it's a shock to see her go from an A-player to a C-lister. In the last few episodes, they have launched Ava's new story revolving around her new job at Burnell's and her mysterious boss. The mystery of the Tides moves nicely now that they've established Stacey's main motivation (boredom) for looking into the story. Tim Sullivan has just arrived in Corinth in late May, and I believe he will already be dead when my episodes resume in late June. Part of the problem though is the mystery is mainly misguided. Stacey and Trucker are looking for an older woman who has been hired by Isabelle to scare them off. The reasoning by hiring an older woman (in her late 50s /early 60s) is never completely established. I can only assume Isabelle is trying to lead Stacey and Trucker to believe that this woman was one of Cabot's mistresses to throw them off the scent. Again, it's a bit of a bizarre tale but also interesting. They are still trying to find their way with the younger set. Hannah and Cooper now appear to be the major couple with a bit of Cooper / Ally and even Cooper / Staige thrown in for good measure. Arthur is still hanging around Hannah, but it's clear that he won't be for much longer. Hannah and Coop have complications from both Clay and Dinahlee as well as Isabelle. Coop and Ally's romance is thwarted by young sexuality; Ally is a virgin and Coop has a traumatic history that is slowly being unveiled. There is a nice scene in mid-May where Hannah, Coop, and Ally all end up at Burnell's just as Hannah puts on a more sexy black dress just as Coop arrives and Ally spots the look between the two. There is also some fun infighting between Staige and Ally over Coop, but it feels like the sorority stuff is already beginning to fade out. I definitely think things are shaping up, but I'm fearful to see all the momentum killed when the next set of episodes start. The story is already switching.

I’m in April 1992. The AU revamp is in full swing. Eden Atwood’s Staige was underutilized. The interaction between Ally and Staige is an early example of a soap frenemy relationship. At first, I didn’t think much of the sorority/fraternity storyline. For one, it won’t last long. I think by the summer the show abandons Bleak House and the Alpha Dels. Secondly, the show has introduced a series of new characters and roped in characters like a member of Matt’s band and the senator’s son who was interested in Dinahlee for a hot minute. With that said, Laura Sisk has emerged as a stronger actress now that Ally is a scheming social climber. Ally and Staige are both into Cooper for their own reasons. It is their push-pull is more interesting than the inclusion of country girl Hannah Mayberry. With that said, the Hannah-Cooper dynamic has created one of the show’s more intriguing stories. It seems that with Hannah and Cooper there is an attempt to recreate the Lily, Jack, and Curtis tale. Like Lily, Hannah is a pianist and Cooper has endured sexual abuse. The sexual abuse story is slowly building. We have only had some hints of it. Upon his arrival, Cooper is pulled aside by Isabelle who confronts him over his past: being kicked out of colleges, jumping from boarding school to boarding school, and the family’s inability to keep a nanny. The nanny becomes a sore point when Cooper and Clay clash when Clay moves out of the Alden manor. Clay recounts Cabot’s 60th birthday party where a young Coop spiked the punch. When Clay recalls the beautiful nanny, Coop lashes out. His personality completely flips. I wonder if the show was considering giving Cooper MPD, but I suspect it was just an example of Cooper being triggered. Cooper and Ally do seem to be the relationship the show is most committed to at the moment. Staige attempts to thwart Ally and Coop’s romance by telling Ally to keep away and later undermining Ally’s confidence when Ally alludes to being a virgin. Kent is underdeveloped. It’s hard to tell if Howarth is green or not because he is given so little to do. Rebecca Gayheart’s Hannah could give you diabetes she’s so sickeningly sweet. Her relationship with Keith Grummet’s Arthur is a sweet dalliance, but I cannot see where they would take it. It’s interesting how little details emerge. Julie Bowen’s character is Steffy, Eden’s ‘little sister’ at the sorority who is dating Sam Maxwell, the young man who was after Dinahlee back in the winter. I’m curious to see how long it takes for these people to completely disappear. Daisy Fuentes seems to be fading now as Tess once they’ve introduced the sorority set. The show is more interesting when it interacts. For example, the aforementioned Coop/Clay scene was very well done. Two characters, both introduced under Addie Walsh and Jeff Ryder, who have very unique viewpoints. When Coop tries to come at Clay, Clay makes a deep cut; questioning whether or not Coop has any true friends. I think the interplay between Clay and Coop is fun. It is the old sullen black sheep versus the new one. I can see why Coop vs. Clay would become a bigger thing under future regimes. Similarly, there is a great scene set at Burnell’s where Dinahlee and Hannah are shopping for a Dinahlee’s first real date with Clay, Isabelle and Gwyn are engaging in some shopping therapy, and Ava and Ally are hunting for a new wardrobe for the newest Alpha Del. The camera shifts between the three scenes and ends with a Gwyn/Dinahlee standoff in the same dress. The show is definitely building a Dinahlee / Clay / Gwyn triangle with Isabelle nudging a Gwyn / Clay reconciliation both openly and privately by encouraging Gwyn to take on the role of CEO of AE in order to lure Clay back into the fold. In another stand out scene, Clay drops by Gwyn at her room at the hotel where they sit an watch an old film on television and skirt around their unresolved feelings for one another. While Gwyn’s arc is building very slowly, and is developing into something intriguing, the Jack / Shana angles of the AE story are not as strong. Jack’s need to defend his position isn’t grounded in anything other than story needs. The Isabelle / Jack animosity comes out of nowhere. Meanwhile, Shana’s romance with Larry Lamont is very dry and to the point. It doesn’t even seem to be building naturally to the revelation that Larry and his assistant Jeanne are scheming to con Jack and Shana out of money. It just seems to move step by step without much nuance. In the latest episodes, it appears that Larry has developed true feelings for Shana without any real angst. Jeanne emerges as a basic threat to Larry and Shana’s happiness, but it is stated that she may have made a play for Jack (off camera). The only element that works is that this all means Jack is too busy for Stacey, who now has significant motivation to become obsessed with the secret of the love nest at the Tides. The Rescott storyline has fallen apart. Kate and Louie are now supporting players in other people’s stories. Louie, now working at the bowling alley, has become a confidant for Dinahlee and I assume will usurp Maggie’s role. In other orbits, Kate is now acting as a social secretary for Isabelle usurping Bethel Leslie’s position. It does connect Kate more to the larger world, but her own family has suffered. The Paul / Ava / Carly story is winding down. Flynn has been quickly killed off in a hit and run shot on location in the city. Carly starts drinking while Michael has been brought home to Corinth. Michael is now completely your average soap kid without any of the personality that was crafted under Mary Ryan Munisteri. There is potential for a great moment when Carly returns from several days of drinking in New York and reunites with Michael, who smells the booze on her breath and immediately calls her out. He is reminded of Ruth Austen, the woman who raised and abandoned him. It has the potential to be a powerful moment, and it is, to an extent. It all plays as soap by numbers rather than actually delving into the emotional turmoil this should really cause. Failed potential is the name of the game right now. Within the same set of episodes, Isabelle receives a phone call about the plane crash that killed her nephew Tyler and his wife Cynthia (Cooper’s parents) and Shana recounting to Larry about the crash that killed Jim and Jimmy. Shana’s monologue is a touching moment, but it seems to be a missed opportunity to connect the old with the new. And yet, Kate has mentioned on two separate occasions that she lost her husband. For a show called “Loving,” there isn’t a lot of it. The show’s main romantic couple is Dinahlee and Clay. Day in and day out, they get a bulk of the show’s story time. In my latest viewing, Clay and Dinahlee have faked a wedding to convince Hannah that her sister isn’t a liar. This leads to Gwyn forcing Dinahlee’s hand resulting in Dinahlee confessing all her dirty deeds to Hannah. With everything on the table, Dinahlee and Clay are free to move forward as a couple. Now, Dinahlee has confessed she has feelings for Clay and has moved passed her feelings for Trucker. And yet, despite his screen time, he is missing from stories that he is critical for. The main thrust in the AE storyline is Isabelle’s desire to see Clay in charge of AE, but Clay shows no interest in AE. Similarly, Gwyn talks about Clay’s desire to reunite with Trisha and how Clay’s relationship with Dinahlee would impact that, but there is no real talk to Clay about Trisha or the family outside his scenes with Gwyn. At least with Dinahlee, she spends time with Hannah, who seems to be her main non-romantic focus.

David Cherrill started using Dr. Rogers in early 1983. He informed Liza she was pregnant with Tourneur. Gary Tonkin continued to use him during the pregnancy storyline and he was in the delivery room in July, 1983. I’ve seen those. I’ve heard he also made an appearance at Jo’s memorial when she was presumed dead.

I think Kate only appeared in New Orleans with Martin. I think the character was a madam or a prostitute. Does anyone else have any details?

I’ve been watching the episodes from the NBC run on YouTube. As they were looping, I saw a January 1984 and December 1986 episode back to back. Watching Sunny go from scenes with Timothy Patrick Murphy to Lee Godart was awkward. Does anyone else see a physical resemblance between the two actors? It was a bit unsettling to think this was the man that Sunny was settling down and having a child with. Also, were both Steve Kendall and Jack Benton both at the TV station concurrently? Or did Jack replace Steve? I thought Jack might be the replacement, but Steve seems to stick around longer than I expected. On on the other hand, I’d love to know the circumstances in which Phillip Brown left the show. Steve is a critical piece of the Sentell-Kendall rivalry that Gary Tomlin is building in those 1983 episodes. I don’t remember Brown being listed in mass exodus that occurred in December 1983/January 1984. When is Steve’s final episode? The Vargas kidnapping story is super effective. I do wish they had tied Vargas to Kate, Mary Stuart’s dual role from the late 1970s. Kate had been a madam that had been Martin’s lover. I think it would have added an interesting layer to the Martin/Billy dynamic. The showdown in the warehouse is really strong. I love that the show continued the Brian/Jo dynamic. I saw a really nice scene with Gene Pietragallo and Mary Stuart where Jo tells Brian she cares about him even after he breaks Suzi’s heart by knocking up Kristen. I don’t like Rhonda Sue, Ringo, or their story. It’s amazing that Ringo lasts nearly two years on a show with constant turnover. Going back to Steve, the scene between Martin and Steve in the hospital highlighted how nicely constructed the shows adult set was. The Martin / Lloyd feud is fueled by Kendall’s father’s suicide (shades of Mike Marshall on TEXAS). Lloyd has a flirtatious business relationship with Stephanie, Martin’s ex-fling and his own “son” Steve’s one-time fiancée. Steve now has two fathers: Lloyd, the man who gave him his name and raised him, and Martin, a stranger he shared a biological connection with. When Steve asks Martin why his marriage to Jo ended, we seemed prime to highlight the rifts in all these dynamics. I imagine we never get there though because Steve must depart soon. Warren Carter remains fascinating and the Wendy / Warren/ Suzie story has legs to go on for years with Wendy’s miscarriage, Suzi’s inheritance, and Suzi’s pregnancy. I also love Mandy, the amibitioys hostess who has her eyes on television. I really enjoy what has popped up.

IMillee Taggert has the most time between her ‘88-‘91 run and her ‘92-‘93 stint. Despite this, her long range impact is uneven. There is no denying that Trisha abd Trucker’s romance shaped the show for many years and that Taggert created that. I’ve already said before I don’t think Trisha / Trucker should have been end game. Taggert and King do introduce realClay into the story. They also wrote the Louie / Kate romance and created Carly abd Paul. Some of this should have been better utilized by subsequent regimes and some of should have just been ignored. While it’s often overlooked, Taggert and King did try to diversify the canvas with the Domeqs and adding Det. Hindman’s children to the younger set. What did did you think @EricMontreal22 of Taggert’s second run? I think she smartly swapped Steffi for Hannah and continued to play Ally’s pregnancy as the main complication in the younger quad. Shana’s desire to have a baby seems strong as does the brief Shana / Leo / Ava triangle l. Yet there are so many other clunkers: the Dinahlee / Curtis pairing, the convoluted backstory with Curtis / Buck / Tess, the return of Trucker’s father, the Jeremy / Ava Universal Studios caper, and the open ended exit story for Trisha. Whike i I get what you mean regarding King and Taggert’s corporate stories, the second half of Marland’s run had the trademark Maryland business world: Amourelle Cosmetics, Forbes Construction, Burnell’s Department Store, the Beecham brothers, and the fight for AE. The difference is Marland’s stories seemed to be grounded in how they would impact others. Nixon was never really a big business type writer and that difference makes for a rough transition in 1985. I think Babbin’s year worked for “Loving.” The show seems to ground the story more in reality while still injecting bits of humor. On the other hand she also sets in motion things that were detrimental in the long run: firing Perry Stephens, okaying the dismantling of the Alden family, and failing to recast Dane when Anthony Herrera left. Sears is interesting because what she does shapes the remainder of show’s run. The introduction of Casey and Cooper as well as positioning Ally as a lead gives the show a jolt. Jessica Collins manages to make Dinahlee something even when the story isn’t there to support it. All the sets she introduces remain for quiet some time. Also she incorporates a lot of modern music (music rights are probably one of the reasons this is never replayed). I wish we didn’t have to lose Carly and Paul in the process. Sears fast departure is a shock. The much remembered revamp was something she spearheaded along with Walsh. Haidee Granger is there for over a year I think. I’d also love to know what changed with Walsh, but Grangers solo work is so over the top that I think Walsh may have felt that it was to big a conflict. Also, Granger quickly squashed Cooper’s sexual abuse story by having Coop claim he wanted to have sex with Selina his nanny. If this was something that Walsh was being told she had to pen, I think I might have quit too. The bits I’ve seen of later in Walsh’s run are stronger (May 1992). As we have seen though in what has appeared online, it’s just such a tonal shift from one regime to another. Being a fan of the Claire Labine school of soap writing, Mary Ryan Munisteri’s work (while flawed in ways) speaks to me more than Walsh’s does. I thought the deal with the devil and the snakes was all at the tail end of the first Maitland story set on the Golden Gate Bridge (November 1984). It may have been later. I think Jonathan kidnaps Keith and replaces him in the final weeks of Marland’s run (May 1985). Either way I know Nixon had stated it was a favorite. While it’s clear she has massive influence over the story, she isn’t credited long as head writer. Jack and Stacey’s engagement party (February 1986) is credited to William Levinson. I’ve stalled in March 1992. I don’t have the fall crossover episodes but they are available. You are correct though Granger is de facto writer during the crossover. Taggerts hiring is announced in November. Regarding the gay storyline on “All My Children,” you raise an interesting point. I’ve read Marland planned to reveal Tom, the character recently introduced on episodes of “The Doctors” airing on Retro, was gay. I’m also curious what the plan was, if any, regarding the AIDS research on “Loving.” I imagine it would have mostly be a talking piece for university in fighting (older conservative donors not wanting their money thrown into research for “those people”). Would they have even attempted to humanize the story by introducing someone suffering from the disease. I believe Curtis returns to Corinth in July 1983 after years of drugs and sex in Europe. I think there was a real story to tell there while not necessarily diagnosing Curtis with the disease. An interesting sidebar, Brian Frons WANTED the Dobsons to tell an AIDS storyline in the first few years of “Santa Barbara” so networks weren’t 100% against it.

No. I got these episodes from another source. Mostly full episodes (often missing credits) with long stretches with very few episodes missing. Even though Millee Taggert and Tom King had a good stretch (two and half years), there were three different executive producers they worked under. From the bits I've seen, Taggert/King and Babbin seem to have the strongest material, but I think the show also made some major changes to the canvas that hurt the show in the long run and weren't rectified for quite some time. I love Sears/ Ryan Munisteri's run, but Munisteri's strength lies in character rather than plotting. With that said, I did enjoy a lot of the story. Ava/Paul/Carly/Flynn is an incredible quad that easily could have been generic but the characterization is so rich (and definitely builds on what King and Taggert were already doing) that the story remains deeply engaging. I love that Paul never really gives up on Ava despite all the terrible things she has done. I also think that by allowing both Ava and Kate know Carly's secret, a lot of strong natural tension was built between the Rescott women and the Slavinski men. The Ally / Matt pairing was well done, but Matt's story is certainly more engaging. Laura (Sisk) Wright is more at ease in the role of slightly devious schemer than she is as a more outgoing ingenue. Eric Woodall just works beautifully with every actor they pair him with. Matt's relationship with Kate and Louie is very poignant, and the connection with Ceara provides some of the show's strongest moments. The story that Munisteri builds for Trucker and Trisha was probably not well received by that fanbase. It made Trucker and Trisha both look human and even terrible at times. The conflict with Jack and Stacey that comes out of the situation with Dinahlee nicely ties into the story with Trucker and Trisha, but overall glances over the role that Shana has played in all of it. If Munisteri had stayed, I suspect that Shana would have been shipped to Hong Kong like Isabelle intended. The introduction of street kid Michael, snarky artist Giff, soulful Flynn, and spirited Dinahlee added deeper layers to the stories and the canvas. From what I've seen of Sears / Walsh, the characterization goes to pot fairly quickly. Characters are now people but more types. Isabelle is simply a meddling mother and grandmother without the appreciation of what has led her to become this in such a short period of time. Michael, who was hustler and slightly devious, suddenly becomes your average soap kid. Matt, deeply aware of all his baggage, wants to rush into marriage and move out of town with Ally despite not wanting to rush her into sex weeks earlier. Only Gwyn seems to get a bit more depth, and it is her story which seems most interesting, but is also one of the slowest building. Walsh' plotting is a bit stronger, but the stories are not as interesting. Clay becomes involved with Dinahlee because he's down on his luck and hopes to keep an eye on her. Upon the arrival of Hannah, Clay pretends to be Trucker to keep Dinahlee from disappointing Hannah having told her a fairy tale about being engaged to a very rich man, Trucker McKenzie. This dominates a good portion of the episodes. Stacey is presented a chance to write an article on the Alden family for Brava, but instead nixes the offer at Isabelle's request. Instead, Stacey becomes obsessed with some love nest that Cabot had in the Tides and the mystery surrounding who the lover might be. Again, in terms of a story, it is interesting, but it isn't impacting the characters in any real meaningful way. The alliances being built in order to prevent Clay from taking over Alden Enterprises is an intriguing concept and is a story that at least gives the Aldens a sense of family unity, but it also seems to meander a bit. More things happen under Walsh, they just don't have the impact without the story. What I've caught of Haidee Granger's work is bizarre. The storyline ideas are definitely meant to grab eyes (Giff goes crazy and kidnaps Trisha! There's a ghost at 35 Maple Street!), but the scriptwriters and actors manage to make some moments very meaningful. As much as I hate seeing the destruction of Giff Bowman, Cox and Stewart are pretty damn amazing in some of their final confrontations where Casey is trying to convince Giff to tell him where Trisha and Christopher are. For all the complaints made about Matt not having ties, Casey has the same issues once Richard Cox departs, but both actors give the characters an edge. On an hour show, Woodall and Stewart could have driven story for years, it's a shame they weren't given that opportunity. Shame on them for not looking for something more unique and truly 'embarassing' like the Jonathan Maitland story. Then again, maybe the deal with the devil stuff was under Jonathan Maitland's second run. I think the Vochek / Donovan family structures were flawed. I think they should have had killed off Patrick Donovan in the pilot as a result of the prostitution story with Johnny Forbes helping hide Amelia leading to Patrick finding her and being shot in the final showdown. I would have sent Amelia to prison and had Johnny get off by turning on her. This would have built more tension between the Forbes / Donovan clans which could have played nicely into the Merill / Roger / Doug storyline. I also believe I have mentioned that I would have had featured the Vochek father instead of Patrick Donovan. I would have built a slow burning romance between him and Rose Donovan which would have been complicated by the revelation that his wife wasn't dead and had in fact abandoned the family. When she returned to town, she could have been involved with Johnny Forbes, which would again escalate the tension between the families as well as complicate her husband's divorce plans. Also, if Rose was a staunch Catholic, this might have been an end to that relationship. I think more story at the parent level would have enhanced story at the child level. I know it was probably too early for it, but I think they should have bitten the bullet and had Doug been deeply in the closet. Doug and Merrill's relationship could have been beneficial because they were both involved in forbidden relationships (Merrill with a married man and Doug with a man). It would certainly have been a different dynamic for the Roger / Merrill relationship. Also, I don't remember the show really playing up the fact that Roger's career should have been hindered, at least slightly, by the scandal involving his father's murder. I guess they were going for a JFK angle with Roger, but I think it would have made more sense to use the prostitution ring to keep Roger in Corinth for a year or so before he could really build up his political plans (which should have been the case anyway since he was president of the college). I think Doug's sexuality could easily have been used in the AIDS storyline they wanted to tell, but I also think that story might have been interesting if they sort of played a sexually fluid Curtis Alden. Again, I think some of this never would have made it past the network, but its always interesting to consider. I think Nixon wrote Noreen and Mike out after Marland brought Noreen back in his final weeks, though I believe Nixon brought back Doug for the relationship with Shana. Later, Taggert / King brought back Rose and Patrick and were used during Munisteri's run. The last mention I've gotten of them was at Christmas 1991 when Stacey says they are with Doug in California. Overall, the Donovans and Vocheks needed more inherent tension that a family like the Rescotts provided. I think they could have worked, but it would have meant a major overhaul.

The timeline never really works. I believe Sam, initially, is a year older than Monique. So there is suppose to be a significant age gap between Sam and Laura. Later on, I believe it's implied that Ruth conceives Chantal at the time Peter leaves town meaning Chantal is younger than Sam, which makes absolutely no logical sense. Originally, Ruth and Henry's daughter Jacquelyn was married with children implying she was the oldest. I dont one think we ever learned who Jason's biological father was. Hugh originally took Jason away and named him Hugh Gardner II. When Jessica returned to Chicago after her initial banishment, she takes Jason back, marries Senator Tim Craig, and rechristens her son. Jason loved Tim and felt guilty because Jason didn't save Tim when they were involved in a car accident that sent their vehicle into a body of water. It was Tims death that led to the fracture in Jessica and Jason's relationship and why she can't locate him at the time of the premier. The death of Tim also resulted in Jessica falling off the bottle. Rob is suppose to be older. He's a professor on track for tenure when it starts. I think he is probably a little younger than Jessica and Laura, but still older than Jason, Sam, Adam and Monique. Jessica's family lived in the same neighborhood as the Whitmores. JD Whitmore also has a crush on Jessica. I really lije like the triangle between Jordan, Sam, and Kyle. I actually really like George Shannon in the role of Jordan. While his mob ties grow organically in the story, I don't like that they made him the heavy in that way when I felt Shannon's Jordan represented so many things Sam wanted while Kyle was just raw passion. I was actually listening to Here and Now this evening because of Sam and Kyle. rutherford grows immensely as the character of Sam evolves. Valentin is never given the heavy emotional material Rutherford does. The rare time she does (Trevor and Laura's divorce) it's all b-story. With that said I've only seen the fallout of Jasons death. I'm not sure how valens did with her instant widowhood.

Parlato doesn't seem to be delivering that line with any snark. I think Gwyn may have gone back to school in either 1994 or 1995. Nixon paired Gwyn with Jeremy Hunter, has her experience menopause, and had her working at the ad agency after several years back in the corporate circles at AE. I'm up to March 1992 and I'm surprised to experience so many forgotten stories. The mystery at the Tides is something @EricMontreal22 mentioned several times but to see it play out day to day is bizarre. I'm curious to see how cohesive it will turn out as they've hinted once at the resolution (Clay is not Cabot's son) but the rest of the story seems to suggest this is all about Cabot's infidelity. It's also surprising to see it started out under Mary Ryan Munisteri back in November. The end of the Matt Ford story was incredibly disappointing especially since they saddled Ally with an obsession for a newly sanitized Giff Bowman and a rather extensive side story involving her mother Bonnie getting pregnant by her new boyfriend. Also, Mary Ryan Munisteri lays the groundwork for Casey. Gif has been married three times and has three children, one by each former wife. Revel (Casey's birth name) is visiting Corinth at Christmas (offscreen) and is a musician. in the transition from Munisteri to Walsh there is a brief young crowd introduced around Matt, Alky, and Reggie involving a band. I imagine the plan was to have Revel involved in the band. Ally also has a brief flirtation with Sam, the senator's son who Dinahlee spent some time with. Sam was a member of the main frat. Walsh spends a lot of time making Clay and Dinahlee happen. After mentioning bring her family to town, Dinahlee now claims it's just her and Hannag, her half sister. Mom apparently abandoned them to pursue her dreams to be a singer. Not a big Dinahlee / Clay fan. The he show really struggles with Becks latest maternity leave. Trucker and Stacey are trying to solve the mystery of the Tides, which is probably why Haidee Granger pursued that angle later in the year. The infighting at AE started out interesting with Jack, Shana, and Gwyn uniting against Clay but Isabelle's meddling has become cumbersome. I didn't realize John Schneider was on contract to play Larry Lamont, a businessman looking to work with AE and seducing Shana. Also shocked how Walsh sidelines Ava and completely shifts the focus of Carly / Paul / Ava / Flynn to make Paul and Carly endgame without any plan in place for Ava. It's really upsetting to see the story shift gears to Michaels heart problem and some rather generic interactions between characters who previously had a bunch of layers. I understand why people liked Arthur, the assistant at Truckers auto shop. They lay the nerd layer on pretty thick but the actor gives him dimension. I did did jump ahead and watched some May 1992 episodes and things do seem to settle a bit, but the show has been a bit of a task in Walsh's early episodes.

As mentioned, Babbin was EP, but she talked about having a heavy hand in the writing. King and Taggert were there for several years, but their writing seems better under Babbin than Hardy or Bunim. Its fs a shame it was Rick, not Curtis, in a triangle with Stacey and Jack. There was much more history there with Lilly and Ava. I assume by Dinah Lee's brother you mean Todd Jones, Egypt's brother? I'm watching early Addie Walsh episodes now and she does have Dinah Lee mention her desire to bring her family to town, but it's only her ingenue sister Hannah who should be appearing in the next few episodes. Most of the actors playing Clay and Gwyn were too young to have children at the age they were at. I'm watching material from Clays return which is in the earliest of Addie Walsh episodes. Immediately, they hint that Clay is not an Alden in the last of Wesley Addy's appearances as Cabot's ghost. Walsh also torpedoes Gwyn and Gifford in order to play Gwyn and Clay tension despite the fact that a Giff / Dinah Lee / Clay / Gwyn story would tell itself.

@EricMontreal22, glad to see you popped back in. Agnes Nixon's 1993-1994 stint seems incredibly strong from everything I've seen and read. It seems much stronger than her 1985-1986 work post-Doug Marland. I like that she doesn't really dump a whole bunch of characters immediately the way so many other new writers / producers do when they first appear at "Loving." I admire that she really tries to make everything work even when it clearly doesn't (the Dante stuff always sounds cheesy to me). The writing credits for Loving are always so messy. Feel free to submit edits, but I think the latest is as I know it: Doug Marland (6/1983 - summer 1985) Agnes Nixon (summer 1985 - late 1985/ early 1986) Bill Levinson (1986) Ralph Ellis (1987 - spring 1988) Writer's Strike (spring - early fall 1988) Tom King & Millee Taggart (fall 1988 - April 1991) Millee Taggart (April 1991 - late summer 1991) Mary Ryan Munisteri (late summer / early fall 1991 - January 1992) Addie Walsh (January 1992 - summer 1992) Haidee Granger (defacto) (summer 1992 - late 1992) Robert Guza & Millee Taggart (late 1992/early 1993 - 1993) Millee Taggart (1993- fall 1993)) Agnes Nixon (c. October 1993 - September 1994) Addie Walsh & Laurie McCarthy (c. October 1994 - January 1995) James Harmon Brown & Barbara Essensten (c. February - November 1995) Episodes have finally appeared on trading circuits and I have most of November 1991 - September 1992. I'll be honest, I know the college kids era is well loved, but after watching the climax of the Matt Ford story, I cannot believe that the show allowed Eric Woodall slip through their fingers and the bits of the college stuff I've seen so far seems so tedious. I absolutely adore Mary Ryan Munisteri's work, flaws and all. It's been really hard to even start watching the show become louder in either Munisteri's final days or Addie Walsh's opening episodes (the credits are rare in what I have). In the stuff I've seen, Walsh centers a lot of story around Dinahlee, which is probably due to Noelle Beck's maternity leave, but it still is rather sudden. The characterizations change wildly from Munisteri to Walsh with Dinahlee seeming as a more traditional heroine, Giff losing the fun and carefree demeanor he exhibited upon his arrival, and Isabelle seems less driven by Cabot's history of infidelity and becoming a more traditional heavy. To be fair, I have only watched scattered episodes after January 1992 so my assessment may change.

Nicky Abdul .... Abdul Saaam El Razzac Brandy Alexander (Royal) Lela Rochon 91 Homefront [model +Adam] Elmer Arbuckle (?) .... Frank Birney Prov, KL, Dal Emmett Arbuckle (?) .... Bob Larkin KL, Hotel, Best Times Junior Arbuckle (?) .... Paul Martel [I believe this might be Vern’s son. I don’t know about Emmett and Elmer] Fritz Ballard .... Victor Warren ATWT, Y&R, Santa, GH Jensen Bardmoor ... Corbin Timbrook 89 B&B Rita _______ Barton .... Sheila Wills 90 see Hoppers [+Charles. Widow of the security guard who died in the pharmaceutical lab explosion] Wally Beaumont ..... Myles Thoroughgood 89 [former gang member. Worked at the scoop shop] Carrie Bothwaite ... Rosemarie Castellanos Lord Lloyd Bradfield .... Ronald Allen [+Rebecca. Attorney at law firm.] Mrs. Brezinsky .... Kathleen Freeman 89 see Hoppers [ran deli next to the scoop shop. Cranky customer] Judge Brighton ..... Bert Rogel, Esquire Gail Brinkley ..... Colleen Casey 89 see Hoppers [attorney involved in the Hugh Gardner estate/Jason Craig murder] Wendell Burton .... Laurence Lott 90 AW, KL Lieutenant Lucas Carelli .... Antony Ponzini 89-90 see Hoppers [Kyle’s boss] Edna Carr .... Colleen Casey see Hoppers Suzette Charles ... Suzette Charles LOV, Y&R Dr. Chen ... France Nuyen 89 KL, SB [Jessica’s doctor while in rehab] Jade Collins .... Shannon Tweed 89 see Hoppers [soap opera character sleeping with Vic Reynolds, Lacey’s husband] Leonard Cooper .... Richard Roat 89-90 see Hoppers [producer of “Tomorrow is Another Day. Last appeared in 1990 when Jessica was trying to sell a movie about her involvement in art smugglling] Jason Craig ..... Anthony Addabbo 89-91 see Hoppers Monique McCallum Craig .... Nancy Sorel 89-91 see Hoppers Senator Tim Craig .... Never Seen [may have been seen in flashbacks. Jason did have nightmares about the accident. Don’t remember if we saw somebody else during the drowning] Tyrell Dawson .... Sterling Macer, Jr. 90-91 Homefront Sonny DeSilva ... Jaime Gomez 89 90210, PF, FD [Jason’s photography assistant] Jessica Gardner Craig Donnelly .Barbara Rhoades 89 see Hoppers .... Linda Gibboney 89-91 see Hoppers Professor Rob Donnelly .... George Deloy 89-90 see Hoppers Linda Dukes ...... Tonya Lee Williams 89-90 see Hoppers [college student who Adam flirted with. I only saw her in May 1989 episodes. To be fair, Sussman would bring back minor characters frequently so its possible she returned.] Mr. Fleischer .... Ian Abercrombie 90 see Hoppers Emily Fober ... Frances Bay 89 see Hoppers [confused older woman who came forward about the Jason Craig murder.] Sylvia Furth .... Elinor Donahue 89 see Hoppers [executive for the network airing “Tomorrow is Another Day.” I believe another actress played Sylvia prior to Elinor Donahue.] Hugh Gardner .... Jack Betts 89 see Hoppers Garrett Graham .... David Allen Smith 90 RIT Y&R, KL Lincoln Greer .... Smokey Robinson 89 DOOL, Y&R. AMC [stockbroker. Adam’s cellmate. The pressure of work turned him onto cocaine.] Dylan Hale ... Sandy Simpson 91 Po5, Santa, Hotel [possible heir to Hale empire] Jordan Hale ..... George Shannon 89-90 SFT, GH, HTSAM .... Robert Gentry 90 see Hoppers [I’m not positive, but I believe Jordan was credited well into 1991 even though he died in December 1990. I wonder if they planned to bring him back from the dead ala Jason Craig] Stephanie "Sam" Whitmore Hale ... Kelly Rutherford 89-91 see Hoppers Professor Hansen .... John Dewey-Carter 89 see Hoppers Reverend Red Hardy .... Jerry Potter DAL Mimi __ Harrington ..... Mimi Torchin Mr. Harrington .... Steve Kavner Mrs Hassan ..... Diana Simonzadeh Alex Hawkins .... Paul Carr see Hoppers Reginald Hewitt .... Ian Ogilvy 90-91 MP [+Jessica. Art thief. Friends with Jordan] Dr. Elliott Hunter ... Bingwa 89 [+Chantal. Dentist. May have proposed to Chantal] Mary Gardner Hutchins Mina Kolb 89-91 SIIS, KL, Santa Vern Hutchins Len Wayland 90-91 see Hoppers Mr. Ito ... Richard Narita 90 see Hoppers (Baby) Danielle Jackson .... ???? Doreen Walker Jackson .... Jonelle Allen 89-91 Berr Martin Jackson ..... Rick Fitts 89-90 see Hoppers Dr. Warren Jackson ..... Robert Hooks 89 DYN, Hotel ??????? 90 [Martin’s father. Robert Hooks played the part in November 1989 last appearing in a fantasy sequence shaming Doreen about the baby. A second actor appeared at the hospital in March 1990 when he came to see his ‘granddaughter’ Danielle.] Officer Jacobs ... Robert De Quoi Madame Jarre .... Lillian Garrett 89 [ran a hostel that Jason often stayed at. Jessica contacted her when she was looking for her son] Paul Jarre .... Jon Lindstrom 89 see Hoppers [Madame Jarre’s nephew. Went backpacking with Jason. Later shot and killed by Mary] DA David Jeffries .... Brian Stokes Mitchell 89 UB, Hotel, Lewis Kaiser .... Craig Austin 90-91 Santa, ATWT, AMC Jacques Langlois .... Phillipe Simon B&B Dr. Lugar ... Ed Evanko 89 see Hoppers [university psychiatrist Sam saw about her sexual harassment claims] Norman Marks .... Norman Marks Adam Marshall ... Kristoff St. John 89-91 Y&R D.A, Chantale Marshall ... Sharon Brown 89-90 LOL ....Debbi Morgan 90-91 see Hoppers Henry Marshall ... Taurean Blacque 89-90 SAV .... James Reynolds DOOL 90-91 DOOL Ruth Potter Marshall ..... Joan Pringle 89-91 see Hoppers Lt. Kyle Masters ... Robert Torti 89-91 see Hoppers Sean Masters Butch Hartman 90-91 DOOL [Kyle’s brother who Kyle arrested. Eric’s cellmate] Reverend Matthews ... David Haskell 90 see Hoppers Cory McCallum .... Tom Hermann 89 [spent the summer home from military school. Roped into a letter writing campaign by his uncle to get Jessica back on as Lacey on “Tomorrow is Another Day”] Dylan McCallum ... Never Seen Laura Whitmore McCallum .... Gail Ramsey 89-90 see Hoppers [I don’t know if Ramsey appeared in 1991 but she was certainly set to as the show wanted both Laura and J.D. as part of the Peter story.] Trevor McCallum ... Andrew Masset 89-90 see Hoppers Chris Mendoza .... Dean Devlin 89 .... Bernie White 89 see Hopper s Carla Meyer .... Marnie McPhail 89 BH90210, MS [Trevor’s assistant] … Amy Yasbeck 89 Claude Montreau ... Patrick Gorman 90 Y&R Dr. Morley .... Carol Wyand BE Charles Mullen .... Joseph Whipp 89-90 Prov, DOOL, BH90210, Santa, MP, GH Helen ______ Mullen .... ??????? 89 [Helen is first introduced played by an uncredited dayplayer in July 1991. She and Ruth are inducted into the Women’s Art Council at the same time.] Marla Adams 89-90 see Hoppers [I don’t think she appeared in 1991, did she? I don’t think she was written out though. Lieutenant Nestor .... Robin Strand 89 BERR, DAL, Santa SOMH .... David Froman 89-90 see Hoppers [Kyle’s partner who he fought with. Kyle called him Det. Nasty] Officer O'Reilley .... Marshall Teague 89 DOOL, B&B Kim Perez .... Andre Benita (Mart) 89 Sandy Phillips ..... Jayson Kane Officer Porter .... James Ingersoll B&B, MP Vivian ________ Potter ... Lynn Hamilton 89-91 see Hoppers Brian Price .... Tim Russ see Hoppers [reporter who wrote the story about the bombing at the Marshall home] DA Steven Radford .... Barry Jenner 90 see Hoppers .... James Raymond 90 KL, Santa Rita Remsen .... Dorothy Fielding 89 MP, TD, AW Mitch Renelli ......... Paul Lobosco 89 [replaced Sonny as Jason’s assistant] .... Ron Marquette 89 2000MR .... David Ciminello 89 AW, DOOL Joel Resnick .... Rick Lohman 89-91 SFT [+Laura. I don’t think he aired in 1991 but I think he and Laura were still involved.] Amy ___ Reubens .... Viveca A. Fox 90 (flashback) Dr. Daniel Reubens ..... Richard Roundtree 90-91 [I think Roundtree left the show before it ended. I think he was last on contract in October and may have appeared on a recurring basis. I haven’t watched much of what I have of the last few months] Maya Reubens ....... Viveca A. Fox 89-91 see Hoppers Vic Reynolds .... John Gabriel 89 see Hoppers [Lacey’s husband on “Tomorrow is Another Day.”] Darren Rhymes ... Never Seen Jaclyn Marshall Rhymes .... Never Seen Kevin Rhymes .... Never Seen Lizzie Rhymes .... Never Seen Judge Samuel Romer ... Allen Williams 89 KL, PD, BERR, DH, DOOL, Ally, Santa, Po5 Benita ____ Royal .... Janet McLachlan 90 KL, Santa [Eric’s mother seen during his trial. I don’t think the character was seen after the character’s trial ended, but I may be wrong.] Eric Royal .... Randy Brooks 90-91 see Hoppers Brad Russell .... Robert B. Wilson 90 see Hoppers Christy ___ Russell ... Patricia Tallman 90 GH [I think Christy may have appeared in 1989 as well] .... Stacey Nelkin 90 Jon Sherwood .... Peter Marc EPNAS , DYN , TC, BH90210 John Spector .... Allen Williams Judge Alan Spencer .... Ben Piazza 89 see Hoppers Murray Stein .... Phillip Hoffman Dr. Stevens .... Greg Mortensen DOOL, KL, Y&R Alan Stewart .... Bruce Campbell KL [Bruce Campbell was on “Generations,” a Detroit soap in 1982. He recently posted a video clip on his twitter feed. He was not on the NBC soap “Generations”] Mitchell Taylor ... Josef Rainier 90 see Hoppers [Jordan’s half-brother. Mob boss] Candace Thompson .... Mary Watson 89 see Hoppers [+Adam] Judge Sherman Titus .... Stewart Moss LHS Alan Trask .... John J. D'Alessandro 89 [Monique’s boss at Windy City Magazine] .... Martin Hewitt 89 see Hoppers Dean Umoto .... Haunani Minn 89 Hotel, Po5, RT, YDiL [possibly 1990 as well. Dealt with the sexual harassment claims] Stephen Wain ... Jim McKrell 89 see Hoppers [partner in the ad agency Trevor worked for] Dean Walsh .... George Pentecost AW, kl Phillip Webb .... Bruce Gray 89 see Hoppers [partner in the law office. J.D. Whitmore .... Gerard Prendergrast 89 Hotel [plans were made to recast the character in 1991 had the show continued] Peter Whitmore ..... Ron Harper 90-91 see Hoppers Rebecca ____ Whitmore .... Patricia Crowley 89-90 see Hoppers ......... Dorothy Lyman 90-91 see Hoppers Johnny Wilde .... George Duke 89-90 [ran Johnny’s Hideaway. Doreen’s friend] Gordon Williams .... Christopher B. Duncan 89 see Hoppers [Adam’s college friend] Officer Williams .... Kevin Bourland Po5 Kate ________ Wilson .... Robin Dearden 90 [ran Wilson & Friends book store. Harboring Daniel. Ex-flame of Rob] Ted Winters .... Bobby Hosea 90 Y&R, KL [Kate’s associate. Harboring Daniel] Amber the lingerie model .... Jasmin Paul 89 FC Billie the lingerie model .... Patricia Tallman 89 Carla, Trevor's assistant ..... Amy Yasbeck 89 see Hoppers [see Carla Meyer] Casey .... Derek Mitchell Casey ... James Chisem 90 Dede that dated Sean ... Laurelle Brooks (Mehus) 91 Dillon .... Jonathon Sachar 90 Eddie ... Len Birman 89-90 DOOL, DAL, KL Gretchen .... Rosie Malek Yonan 90 see Hoppers Jack the player ... Vince McEwen John ... Douglas Sills Po5, SIS, MI Lamar, Doreen's butler ...... Donald Willis 89-90 Hotel, KL Lionel, Mary's butler .... Eric Christmas 89-90 DOOL, Ally Louise the maid ... Jana Grant Santa Marcus ..... Damien Lee 91 B&B Mark ... Joseph Scott Melina + Peter .... Gina Gallego 90 see Hoppers Nora, Martin's assistant ..... Laurel Lockhart 89-90 Sis, FC, Dal Madame Rosa ,,,,, Lynn Lowry 90 KL, HTSAM .... Jeanna Michaels 90 see Hoppers Sarah, Mary's maid .... Lois de Banzie 89-90 Sis, RH Sean .... David Duran 90 DOOL Sidney the front desk clerk.... Victor Gardell 90-91 DOOL, Y&R Spencer ... Lito Wilson 89 Stan the clerk at Beroni's .............. David Ault 89 Thelma , Sam's agent ......... Carol Ann Susi 89-90 UB Tom the musician ...... Scott Colomby 90 see Hoppers Tom .... Patrick Sweeney Wendy ........ Lynda Robertson 89 Wolf the musician ..... Mark Goodman 89 Drummer for “Men of Essence” … Jon Lindstrum 89

I think Angela had adapted a pen name, Despina, and was writing poetry. Danny was attracted to the person writing the poetry, but wasn't aware it was Angela. For Christmas, Danny gave Angela a journal to write her poetry in. Hopefully, someone can provide more details. I don't think Elizabeth Swankhammer was on very long. She's gone by January 1984 because you can see Terri Eoff in those clips. Cynthia Gibb left to appear on "Fame." I found an article from November, 1983 stating Swankhammer had been on for three months, but sometimes those articles can be several months old. My guess is no longer than six months. When Tom left in October, 1982, he stated he would be back and sent him off with Kathy back to D.C. by the end of 1983. Janet never comes back. Its been said that Tomlin planned on bringing back Gary Walton in 1986 to pair him with Sunny which is why the show sent Craig Walton, Gary and Laine's son, back to town in the final year. Neither of the two Dannys were given much to do. I've only seen Lupone as the director of "Lysistrata" when Kim appeared in it on "Ryan's Hope" and in some episodes as Michael's foster father on "Loving." I don't remember the director character's name so he couldn't be memorable. On "Loving," Lupone was a nasty piece of work, jazz man Charlie 'Nick' Nichols. Charlie ended up convincing Ruth Austen, his wife, to sell Michael back to Carly. Nick was pretty unfeeling. I haven't gotten a chance to watch all these yet, but I think the 1983 ones are from December 1983. David Forsythe only came on the show in November. Joanna Lee departed around December; Ellen Barrett was credited by Christmas. It's entirely possible there was a short period without an executive producer. I once read on a message board that Gary Tomlin originally planned on making Laura Lloyd's wife of ex-wife. Not sure how accurate it is, but I thought it would be worth throwing out there. It's interesting how we (myself included) are so use to shows just cutting the budget on these shows and trying to make things work on nothing. I think it's admirable that the network and the production company pumped money into the show even if seems a bit misguided given the end result. With all that said, I'm curious who the audience was, and who the intended audience was, for NBC's "Search for Tomorrow"? Was it mainly fans who "Followed the Search" from CBS? Was it NBC viewers who were just following out of network loyalty? Were they really cultivating a new generation of viewers? I'm intrigued by the reaction to the final year, which seems to receive praise for Walsh and Long's work, but yet seems to be the most obvious period of McCleary domination . Watching that episode from December 1986 with the climax of Matt / Malcolm McCleary is the most bizarre episode I've seen of "Search." It just seems so evident that the show has a clearer focus, but that it's not connected to anything that has come prior to the show's arrival on NBC. Can anyone even name any well remembered stories from the NBC years? I think TR is remembered by some people, the Vargas kidnapping, Hogan / Sunny, and Warren / Wendy / Suzy, but overall I think the show never really was able to find its footing. There were memorable gimmicks like the flood and the live episode, but so much of the show seems like it was forgotten. Joanna Lee made some strides, but I think she also loaded the canvas with a lot of characters which resulted in a mass exodus at the end of 1983. What would others say were the most memorable things about the NBC run?

Bernard White played Chris Mendoza on "Generations" for a single episode in 1989. He was a temporary recast. I think in June 1989. I'm not sure if the Chris character appeared in 1990, but I doubt White was playing him. Pamela Burrell played Annabelle Catlin from 1984 - 1985.

I apologize. I don't think I was clear. I think it was addressed onscreen in the early 1990s or so I was told. I think Beth and Phillip talked about it. I don't know if it was just in passing or if it was a more meaningful conversation about what happened to Elizabeth. Either way, I do get your bigger point; Elizabeth Spaulding wasn't a character who should have been written off so carelessly. When the show managed to get Felicia Dano in 2005, I remember TPTB were intially quiet about what role she was playing. I was hoping she was going to play Elizabeth Spaulding, who would reveal she had taken Phillip away to save him from the Spaulding influence. At that point, why not bring two characters back from the dead in one shot.

Maggie had at least one miscarriage while married to Matt in 1981. I think she may have had another in the late 1970s or early 1980s.

There is a long string of episodes, I want to say almost a year's worth, from 1950 leading up and including the trial of Meta Bauer, one of the show's original heroines, for the murder. I don't want to spoil too much for you. I believe the episodes are available on youtube. If not, the Old Time Radio Researchers Library should have them and other soap episodes. I'm definitely going to get the details wrong on this, but Elizabeth Spaulding was killed off in the early 1990s. Offscreen, obviously. I believe it was around the time of Beth and Phillip's wedding. Later, when the show killed off Phillip under Kriezman, I remember the obituary read that he was the son of Alan and the late Elizabeth Spaulding which is how I learned about it (I had only started watching in 1998). On a similar note, during the same crappy storyline, there was a time where Phillip was disappearing and Harley was trying to figure out where he was going. They revealed that Phillip had a model version of Springfield that he was trying to develop. I thought it would have been better if they had him visit Jackie Marler's grave. I felt like if they really were going to explore the emotional complexity and deterioration of Phillip, it had to be linked back to Phillip's original parentage.

@Brent, it's always good to see you pop in. I hope more "Secret Storm" material pops up. Episodes aired in Australia, on and off, from January 1968 until at least November 1971. I believe it was two separate runs, a brief eight month run in 1968, and a longer run starting in January 1969. I could only find episode summaries for one week in February, 1970, but here they are: Friday, February 20, 1970: Valerie and Peter forget their disagreement over Janet. Monday, February 23 1970: Wendy's friend cross-examines her about her date with Kip Tuesday, February 24, 1970: Unknown to Janet, Wendy keeps her date with Kip. Wednesday, February 25, 2970: Janet declares that the past will not be revived. Thursday, February 26, 1970: Wendy lies to her parents. Janet / Kip / Wendy would be 1967 - 1968 I believe. I know the other, more vague descriptions, talk about the show being about a newspaper columnist looking to change his life or something. I'd assume this is Frank Carver?

Ashlee Wolfe, wasn't it? I couldn't remember it myself. So much of Kriezman and Wheeler's turn was them trying to keep a sinking ship afloat rather than putting what they could on a lifeboat and sailing away to a different ship that they could have made work. The emergence of Doris as a more prominent presence in Springfield baffled me. Didn't they reveal she was alos a lesbian? I remember tuning in to see the Alex / Cyrus stuff, but somehow fell into the nonsense that was Marina / Cyrus. I thought Mandy Bruno should have been shipped out with Shayne in 2004. The only time I was remotely interested in her Marina was when they toyed with a Sandy / Marina / Shayne triangle and then later when they had Marina / Jonathan meet. I thought Marina / Danny was terrible especially when they had Blake and Danny chem test, which I loved. If the show was investing in making Sandy work, I thought Ava would have been a neat way to examine his backstory and add new dimensions to the canvas, but that wasn't the case. I thought Jeffrey raping Olivia and producing Ava was the most insane twist in a story especially since we were suppose to still like Jeffrey. I understand why Conboy brought him back; he hadn't been in daytime in years and didn't understand how online fanbases worked. What I didn't get is why Wheeler kept him. By that point, the budget was nothing. It was time to cut losses. I would have bought Olivia as a lesbian if she was paired with a dynamic character. I thought Buzz and Lillian had potential circa 2004/2005 when they first toyed with the idea. Beth and Harley as stepsisters would have been darling. I seem to recall this was also around the period where Beth was toying with the idea of having an affair with Rick and Ed Bauer was suppose to return during that pointless Santa Domingo story. Rick and Beth's affair would have easily led to some uneasy for Ed and Lillian, which would have spilled over into Lillian and Buzz. By the end, I was surprised that they were even revisiting that because the show never seemed all that invested in it. The ITL episodes were clearly Emmy bait, which IMO was unfair.