Angela

Lisa is being immature by participating with the Twitter/reality-media s--t substantially. Or is Lisa incapable of being immature? I must have missed the memo.

Like, I said, though - Lisa wasn't exactly a friendship machine on the show. To that extent, Lisa too needed someone. A huge part of the reason she and Brandi became close, in the first place, is because Brandi wasn't having it with the Lisa take down on her first reunion. People infer Brandi is a gold digger as a friend, for some reason. The girl ratted out the billionaire she was brought on as a friend of at that first reunion.

Lisa opened her house to Brandi? Brandi was not a homeless puppy. Lisa is on a reality show with Brandi. The reality based nature forces everybody to "open their house" to each other. I'm not sure why RH fans think Brandi owes Lisa so much. Fans were rooting for Brandi even before her and Lisa became friends due to the wolf pack mentality (i.e. Richards sister hate). It's not like Lisa had a big well of options open in the friends department on RHOBH when Brandi came in, most of the cast were plotting her demise. Brandi didn't join in on the witch hunt on the first reunion she was invited to. Brandi was invited as a friend of Adrienne - No? Fans act like Lisa has been funding and housing and gosh knows what else-ing Brandi. From what I know, Brandi didn't take much anything from Lisa. They were friends. Real friends or Hollywood friends, one or the other. They BOTH defended each other. They've had a falling out. Brandi "ended" this relationship for what appears to be immature reasons. She continues to be immature. Lisa is being immature, too.

Hmm, talking about laying it on thick... ;b Lisa is a cool chick with a few successful restaurants. This doesn't make her Michael Bloomberg, Bill Gates or a saint. Brandi is messy, but that doesn't make her OJ Simpson, Judas or Tonya Harding. We don't even know that Brandi and Lisa were close enough during off-season for St. Lisa to bless poor, under-educated, tramp-ish Brandi with her wisdom and halo.

I have to see Kyle looks amazing at the reunion, a lot better than all the rest. She's having quite the redemption season in about every way possible - and that's even without reuniting with Lisa (and her cult following). Somebody BTS loves her behind. Brandi and the fire question? Gurrrl! You're not in 7th grade. She's trying too hard to make something of the Scheana stuff. Lisa has been foul with that at times, don't get me wrong, but Brandi's really trying too hard with this. "You invited her more..." "If there was a fire..." The there's the other angle: "Stop acting like my mother..." "Don't tell me what to do..." "I won't go to the doctor because you said to go to the doctor..." Either this is a written storyline or Brandi has the brain of a junior high school idiot. A lot of this stuff is so superficial and stupid even though Lisa & Brandi throwing "bombs" on each other while watching their season. I can't really judge on the tabloid story angle of Lisa and Brandi's fued because I don't quite believe Lisa on it. If she is lying... Yolanda is an ice queen. I don't love her. I don't hate her. She is what she is. IMO, she was like this from the start, we eventually didn't mind because she aligned with Brandi and Lisa. She thinks she's better and smarter than everybody else but so does Lisa and Carlton... Richitis?

There's the question of does/did Brandi want Lisa to give her space or did she want her to call her everyday. Uhm, both. People are not simple. Relationships are not simple. Relationships go through rough patches. Brandi was having a childish period towards Lisa (between the mothering and the Scheana hurt). Brandi didn't expect Lisa to just throw her hands up and "toss her aside" and go straight back to the chick she was trashing and, in part, had her [and Yolanda] trashing. What exactly had Brandi done to Lisa to her face or even behind her back, at that point, that she couldn't return her calls (when Brandi was ready to stop pushing)? Lisa didn't deny that this was going on (her not returning calls, etc). I don't blame Brandi or Yolanda for thinking that Lisa hit the road [and replaced Brandi with Kyle] when things got rough - Brandi was being too much to handle on a lot of fronts (Joyce, etc).

I had forgot what Kim and Kyle accused Yolanda of at the reunion. Yolanda revealed that Kyle was bad mouthing Brandi on a Vegas trip (Kyle and Brandi were on better terms by the reunion) so Kyle revealed that Yolanda told Kim that "[Lisa's] not your real friend. She's full of s--t." Kim backed this up. I did feel Yolanda was lying when she denied it, the same EXACT way I feel Lisa is lying about tabloid-gate. Not so subtle body-language twitches happened in both cases. I don't think Yolanda disliked Lisa at the time. I think she was getting there, but she was just mostly being honest about what she felt Lisa's relationship to Kim was/is. In both cases, I think it was blown up into something it wasn't exactly. Paul and Mauricio almost got their balls cut off by all of us and Ken for doing exactly what Ken was doing on Monday. The only people acting like hyenas at that table were Ken and Kim to be frank. Mauricio and Kyle to a lesser extent. Brandi answered a question and shut up. Kyle didn't exactly overdo it with wanting an answer. She asked and explained why she asked. On the bus, Brandi made her points (that were IMO irrational and jealous) and none of the women joined in. They looked uncomfortable and seemed to be minding their business while not minding their business.

I think you may have Yolanda and Kim confused. Kim's breaking point with Lisa was her not coming to one lousy event. That coupled with Lisa talking down to her a lot. Yolanda has made it clear why she doesn't feel any of these women, sans Brandi for a bit, were real friends - and it has everything to do with the genuine concern shown for her during her battle with her disease.

Joyce adds no entertainment value to RHOBH. I'm sure she's a nice women. She should go on a nice reality television show. Yolanda is not jealous of anything Lisa has. She thinks Lisa is a lousy friend, that's it. If Yolanda has shown anything in her two seasons of BH, it's that she's anal about friendships and she's as straight forward with her opinions as an ice pick plunging into your heart. Ken is an adorable husband, but his ass needed to STFU about Lisa being innocent in tabloid-gate when I'm 99.9% sure he wasn't on the scene the whole time IF at all. Lisa is also acting like Adrienne with all the defamation talk to the point that it almost makes me respect Kyle, I don't remember Kyle whining this much when Lisa was slinging her and her husband's name through the mud quite ferociously.

I don't think Brandi thinks she's the only one with something to apologize for. I sort of agree. The off-season while watching the season bashing has gone both ways. Lisa has taken almost every opportunity to rub it in (re: Joyce/Brandi, Mohammed). She's called that "not participating in the bad mouthing." I'd bet big money Lisa is also lying about the tabloidgate (she probably did it half-jokingly). The obstacle with Brandi and all these ladies redeveloping strong/"strong" relationships is you clearly can't tell Brandi anything private because she has a blabber mouth. Lisa will never sincerely apologize to Kyle because she feels she was responding to Kyle in kind. She kind of was. In Lisa's head, Kyle is really lucky that she decided to let her back. IDK about that. Lisa's innuendo about Kyle and Mauricio was more damaging (deflamatory) than Kyle trying to dethrown Lisa by calling her BF or finding out small worthless details about her life (restaurant ownership) and trying to spin it into something it isn't.

I don't think Brandi is coming from a place of being or wanting to be BFF with Kyle. Tattling on Lisa was less about caring about Kyle, and more about Brandi being mad at Lisa for going back to Kyle (after everything said and done there) - and, in her eyes, dropping her when things got rough. She basically admitted as much in her blog. It's a little insane that somehow all of Kyle's sins have been erased within the dream team due to the collapse of the dream team. ETA: I read a few sentences of this paragraph and you could have been describing at least 3-4 of the women last night. Fully reading the paragraph you're obviously talking about Lisa Peron. Lisa usually is the one walking away, not the other women (sans Brandi). That wasn't an ambush simply on the fact that I felt that most of the women involved didn't really enjoy doing it. I leave Yolanda and Kim out of that selection. I can't read Yolanda - she's too cold - and Kim just really has somewhat justified issues with Lisa. Boyce was a bystander. Yolanda and Kim gave it to Ken more than Lisa. Brandi just said her part and shut-up.

Brandi and Kim's blogs make me believe Brandi on this even more. Brandi straight out says it was a bitch move to tattle but says she was hurt (between Lisa rekindling her relationship with Kyle while Brandi was a bit of a sinking ship and what she had been seeing on Vanderpump Rules). Continues on to say that wasn't the result she wanted out of that day, she just wanted to have a honest conversation with Lisa about everything (pre-tattling). Kim tells the story of how this all came out, which puts more light on it: Brandi actually shared the story with Kim first, Kim encouraged her to share it with Kyle and you can still feel Kim dripping with ripe resentment of both Lisa and Ken. I'm not saying Kim is irrational about Lisa, I think a lot of what Kim says about Lisa concerning herself and Kyle is accurate BUT, however accurate, she clearly has very colored feelings about Lisa.

I wouldn't say this. IMO, yes, she doesn't lie lie BUT she does leave out important points when telling a story (by accident or on purpose). For example, she accused Eddie of wanting child support but the truth is he wanted back spousal support he feels he overpaid her. He clearly sees she's making money and wants some of the support he paid back, including child support in all likelihood, but she clearly also twisted the facts there. I lean toward believing Brandi on this, too, though. I do think Lisa wanted to stab-stab Kyle with the magazine half-jokingly. Lisa was rubbing it (the marriage rumors) in much too passively aggressively earlier this season. That ILY to Brandi at the table screamed "stop ratting me out gurl, we're on the same team." I'm with you in not getting Brandi's "loyalty" to Kyle. She's acting like she is not aware that Kyle is the same person she now feels Lisa is. Even if Lisa did what she said she did, Brandi knows da-n well that Kyle was working the same way and worst to take down Lisa (and Yolanda) from first hand experience. <-- That may be part of Brandi's problem with Lisa though. "I'm having issues, so you 'abandon' me and go back to the chick that was trying to slit your throat (and my throat, and her throat for vocally bystanding)?" Lisa is wrong for some of her Scheana moves but IMO Brandi is being childish about it - "you invited her to DWTS ... a lot." Gurrl. Grow up.

They're kind of adorable together in a weird way. It just seems more genuine than some of the other relationships. When you remember how that relationship started... I could see Lisa very easily doing the magazine thing half-jokingly, kind of like Kyle described. I really hope Brandi isn't lying about what Lisa did. Whether she did it seriously or jokingly, I don't care. I don't think what Lisa may have done (jokingly or seriously) is a big deal - except in relationship to her relationship to Kyle which was/is already f'ed up. If Brandi lied about the situation ... that's f'ed up. Yolanda said, in her blog, had Ken let her talk instead of being a hypocrite and barking she would have added that she had only seen Lisa take notice of the magazine - not place it in any bag. She's not saying she did or didn't place it in the bag, just saying she didn't see it happen.

Really Nene, Marlo and Kenya each have no room to be throwing male-she shade. That's exactly what happened. Peter acts like a bitch often, but that wasn't one of those times.

With the ratings for this season I can easily see them making this a 3-4 part reunion with one episode dedicated to the friends.

Not sure how reliable this site is: http://sandrarose.com/2014/02/source-rhoas-cynthia-bailey-and-peter-thomas-retain-high-powered-attorney/

Kenya didn't post anything the minute "the news broke." It's about 8 or so hours after the news broke. If somebody came at me like SOD came at Kenya, I'd be getting them receipts fast too. Most of that stuff you can find on your phone and in your online checking account in minutes. I really hope she has the receipt for the bigger donation from the ball.

What is being pointed out is WTF? on Nene's part. Where is the check for the venue there? They said the venue was 5,000. I see no check for 5,000. The only check I see there with a date after 9/29 is the donation check,

The thing is I only see one donation receipt and it's for a donation they acknowledged (500.00). The real blow would have been the receipt for the ball donation. SOD, at the moment, appears to be behaving shady-like - why remove the praise Nene, side-swipe Kenya letter if it wasn't inaccurate? ETA: Yeah, but I do wish she also showed the receipt for the bigger donation. I wonder what's Nene's point in bringing up that the party happened in September 2013 (on Twitter)? None of the texts read to me like they were supposed to be from before the party.

Marlo's 2 cents: http://musingsfromtheboudoir.typepad.com/musings_from_the_boudoir/2014/02/ready-to-dish.html

Ring, set-up. The set up I saw was that Kyle knew that Carlton would reject it in all likelihood and was drooling for an opportunity to make Carlton look irrational about her hatred towards her. That doesn't really bother me since Carlton does have an irrational hatred of Kyle. Most of her current issue with Kyle was due to a dream she had that Kyle was talking about her. I really didn't get the point of "it doesn't match." So? It was confusing on several levels: 1) why Lisa felt the need to throw herself in the middle of it 2) why some of the ladies took that weird note as malicious behavior rather than a confusing and completely unnecessary observation. I'm not surprised that Kyle isn't jumping at the opportunity to be Lisa's first in line. I think deep down she's a lot like Lisa and once you betray her it's hard to really come back from that. You become totally about necessity or the lack of, not anything deeper. Also there's the fact that Kyle has wanted to take Lisa down from the Queen setting from season 2 or 3. I agree with Cat on Yolanda. IMO, it was definitely a case of Yolanda making a blunt observation about Lisa and Kyle and Kim spinning it into something bigger to try to divide and conquer. Yolanda does not "appreciate" Lisa but it wasn't on the level that it is this season until this season started taping.

Did Cedric f--k Ken and help destroy Lisa's marriage which two young children were a part off? Get over it, my left butt cheek. That said, I haven't seen Brandi bringing Cedric around Lisa period. Lisa has no reason - beyond catering to her bosses for profit - to keep on bringing Scheana around to non-restaurant dinners and to try to get Brandi and Schea to have scenes together. Also did Cedric and Brandi reunite since Cedric said this about their relationship in 2011? ***Earlier in Season 2, Cedric’s name came up when new cast member Brandi Glanville was introduced as a friend of his from their “old modeling days,” which made Lisa not like her. "I met Brandi for the first time in January,” Cedric says. “Brandi made sure we got ‘caught’ by the press on our way out of the restaurant. She used me. She got what she wanted and then tossed me aside like yesterday’s news.”***

Yolanda, the real ice queen of Beverly Hills, is on point on the whole Lisa yo-yo thing with Kyle/Mauricio: so Kyle and Mauricio are suddenly peachy after all the insistence's that they weren't AND if there has been a realization that you were wrong about them why hasn't there been an effort to retract? I do think Yolanda and Brandi are kind of nit-picking with Lisa though. Yes, Lisa likes you better when you're doing her bidding and not too much trouble - but it's not like she's malicious UNLESS you really get on her wrong side (Kyle last season). I think she can be malicious but I don't think she is malicious in general. I guess in both Yolanda and Brandi's cases the ladies considered her a closer friend than they feel she had been - not visiting a sick Yolanda, Sheana/VR decisions. I see how that can be annoying, but I don't get the intense desire to make her feel as bad as possible for being a "Hollywood friend." I get why Kyle or Kim (who Lisa really does talk down to a lot) would have the desire to show her as a "fraud," but not so much Yolanda and Brandi.

Carlton's blog... her thing with/against Kyle is mind-blowing. Girl has pretty much no sanity when it comes to Kyle.