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Looks like they already mixed (male-female) the teams on Celebrity Apprentice: (Not-Really)House(owners or)wives Edition...

It's not really a rivalry. Carlton is off her rocker when it comes to Kyle. That's the reason she helps Kyle's image.

If I was Kyle, I'd get a restraining order. Carlton is obsessed. I don't think they'll keep both Carlton and Joyce. One or the other is going. Carlton is pretty good for Kyle's image so I wonder if Andy may consider keeping her over Joyce when push comes to shove. As much as Carlton irritates her, Kyle's got to see that Carlton's obsessions has helped her gain some points this past season.

Except for Adrienne, none of the "fired"/"retired" women are any more class-ified or money-fied than the current cast. Camille, Taylor married into money and would be classified as social climbers like quite a few of the women currently on the cast. They lost money with Adrienne but most people barely remember her name. Camille's shady-a-- was fun and they lost that but IMO they could IMO get her back if they wanted her back. Andy has always gone hard on Lisa at the reunions. Maybe she rubbed him the wrong way early on OR maybe he just likes Kyle better. OR maybe he just likes chit stirring. Lisa is doing nothing for BH ratings, whether or not she has enemies. Same goes for all the women. Bravo could put 6 nicely designed boiled eggs as the cast of RHOBH and get about the same ratings it does - read: RHONY, RHOOC, etc... The show will survive with about the same ratings it has without Lisa, without Brandi, without Kyle, etc... It's not like RHOBH has ever come close to challenging RHOA or RHONJ except in terms of buzz.

Maybe Lisa can forgive? Okay, Maybe Brandi can forgive, too. A lot is said about Brandi's ability or inability to be a good friend, but Lisa surely lacks in that department as well. It's really how you handle the tougher times that speak even louder than what goes on in the good times. Lisa's blog... When Brandi came on to this series part-time the majority of the other women were plotting Lisa's demise. Brandi wasn't the only one without "friends." Lisa is rewriting history like she and Ken were Brandi's great protector when she came on the show. Nah. Lisa initially believed Kyle and Kim about Brandi. Brandi & Lisa got along when Lisa got to know Brandi a little better but it's not like they were that close. Brandi flirted with Ken whenever she got a chance and they laughed about it. End of story. Lisa latched on after the first reunion. What happened at that reunion? Brandi had Lisa's back against everybody there and BFF Kyle dared to speak against the Queen Bee (okay, it was more than that with Kyle - she had clearly joined with Adrienne, etc to nail Lisa BUT still). Lisa acting like Brandi was a liability she "adopted" as a friend from the start when the aforementioned is accurate and when she was very, very happy with Brandi taking on [Lisa's] enemies [for her]? Ugh. Lisa and Ken weren't the only ones putting their neck on the line to back up a women a lot of people had problems with. ^^^ Brandi clearly isn't the only one rewriting history and coming up with some utter pitiful BS. Re: Scheana. Lisa needs to be honest about this chit, too. She's clearly closer to Scheana then she lets on - more family friend than employee. It's her right, but don't be a yo-yo about the issue just to try to win sympathy or an argument. Own it. Heh. Yolanda is really not here for Lisa - and in a different way that Kyle and Brandi. Yolanda DGAF what she thinks. She just enjoys seeing her dragged because she honestly thinks she deserves it. The only ones I thought exhibited real tears and emotion for most of that reunion are Brandi and Ken. Brandi is a bit of a messy train-wreck but she keeps it real - outside of the fillers - on an emotional level.

Ika did get evicted after that. This reminds me of why I hate BB, it can be too damn addictive. Hopefully it's a newbie season in the US so I don't get sucked back in.

It's kind of like Santa Clause with this. Some think Santa brings them gifts on his flying sled, most people know Santa does not exist.The point of that sit-down was to launch Lisa's show with a bang. The point was not to magically make Brandi cool with one of the f--k buddies of the father of her children. One minute we're blaming production for Lisa bringing Scheana to all taped events where Brandi is (despite Lisa staffing dozens of employees), the next minute it's Lisa doing her best to make peace. Lisa likes Scheana, possibly a lot - as I think Lisa's daughter and Scheana are besties. Brandi's having a tough time processing what that has meant concerning her relationship with Lisa. She also felt Lisa turned her back on her when the going got tough (read: when Brandi got real messy). Brandi's been immature - and a bit OTT (friends influence friends about people they don't like - it's not manipulation. It's normal!) - but I don't think either of those aforementioned reflections or observations is anywhere near delusional. Lisa also has valid points - now and during the season. Brandi was treating her like the mother she hated for a while and Brandi's been lashing out at her since. It is what it is. I do hope they can work through it and one day be friends again but I'm also okay if that doesn't happen. I'm sure they'll both be okay if that doesn't happen, as well. It's just all fresh right now. You can't really count anything out. Kim and Brandi are probably closer than any non-related people on that cast right now. Strange things do happen.

Nene's got a taste of reality with her dalliances into professional acting. She ain't going anywhere. She'll ride this wave until the ratings start tanking. Full time Kim with this cast would just be ... dayum!

Dayum, Eric. LMAO. Brandi may be a lot of things but she's not a complete idiot. We're not talking about Hollywood friends, we're talking about husband and wife. I don't think she was expecting Ken to be neutral at all ... just less definitive. I think she did/does love him. It hurt her for him to tell her what he initially did in those terms.

The threat of being iced out by Lisa/Ken. No greater downfall can a human face. *drip* *drip* *drip* Andy does not have a hard on for Brandi in term of favoritism at least. I think he likes that she's got a big mouth and he likes that she TAKES IT but that means he's also often dishing it out to her. Andy's always been hardest on Lisa at reunions for RHOBH. His soft touch has usually gone to Kyle. That goes as far back as Season 2. I remember being shocked by it. The problem is neither Kyle or Lisa will ever truly apologize to each other. They're going to be frenemies as long as this series airs. Lisa thinks Kyle is in the wrong and is lucky that [Lisa] had decided to give her a second chance; Kyle, IMO, knows she did some messed up things and thinks she's apologized enough and she will not apologize anymore and expects a sincere apology back if Lisa wants her back. Lisa won't really want Kyle back enough to attempt to sincerely apologize unless Kyle is a yes-woman and Kyle ain't about to do that.

There's no question that Lisa was using the Scheana/Brandi dynamic as a jumping board. The only question is when did it start. Lisa will forget Carlton, and especially Joyce, ever existed by ... probably already PARTICULARLY if they're both fired which is somewhat likely. Yolanda could give zero f--ks about Lisa liking her or not. She hasn't really liked Lisa since some time last season. I think it's arguable that she dislikes Lisa more than any other woman on the cast dislikes Lisa for some reason. It's definitely not an "I love you, but I hate you" dislike, it's a "I'm so much better off without people like you in my real circle" dislike. IMO, Kyle as well. Kyle dislikes Lisa as much as Lisa dislikes her (they love to sort of hate each other). For as much as some of us talk about Lisa's ice-outs, Kyle could have had Lisa back many times over this season if she played a yes-woman to Lisa but Kyle never fully walked back into it. Brandi does care. For all Lisa's talk and tweeting, she hasn't done to Brandi the cold thing she did to Kyle face to face. Maybe she will. Maybe she won't. I don't think it'll make or break Brandi, she's okay with most of the cast otherwise.

The dynamic there is on point in terms of love-hate-pull-push drama. Now, just leave your faces alone so you can be Bold & Beautiful! I'm discussing this like it's fictional television, hehe. I only watched about 4-5 minutes of the reunion (will watch it on rerun), but did catch a good bit of the crying at the end. Fanatics (that kind of make me want to hate Lisa) aside, I really do hope the ladies can work it out and reunite at some point down the road. There is clearly love there on both sides. Kenya is often just an obnoxious try hard and I can understand wanting to punch her but I totally agree. Putting your hands on somebody is falling to the lowest denominator. Apollo, Porferrari can get to steppin' behind bars. ETA: DWTS. Nene. She was really good tonight. There are a lot of good dancers this year so I don't know how far that will get her, but props.

TMZ got their hands on Kenya's 911 call after the fight. http://www.tmz.com/videos/0_rbhryh5q/

Yep, that was basically my Twitter response after seeing that tweet. She's been the ring-leader of that type of chit.

NeNe Leakes ‏@NeNeLeakes 39m I no longer want 2 b a part of something where u r constantly talked down 2 & ur character being diminished! No amount of money is worth it

I'm not sure if this has been posted here yet. The trailer to Kandi's musical:

Oh, Kenya. I had to look it up kind of like Brandi had to look up Bobby Fischer.

Kenya's pretty weak in "battle" without practice to the point that I think even whatshername could potentially outwit her. Kenya's other downfall in arguments is that she usually comes off so practiced, I think she knows deep down she's getting anything she gets from RHOA. It's part of the reason she's going so hard at Kenya. She want to be Queen of the series that gets higher ratings than most NBC shows.

NeNe Leakes ‏@NeNeLeakes 1h Love u @Porsha4real Nene is basically confirming this story with that. The only question that remains is "how violent was it?"

I wonder if they'll fire whatshername due to this, if it's true. I'm not sure that Bravo carries that no-physical-violence policy. My problem with Kenya in Kenya versus whatshername debacle is that Kenya has no room to be talking while having recently had a supposedly gay boyfriend and currently having a fake boyfriend.

I'm surprised. I hope so, too, but I can see CA kind of encouraging the feud production-wise for ratings. I just want to see all the women do well in general and not fall victim to cattiness. Any idea when the season debuts?

I haven't watched RHONY since the crazy Kelly seasons... I'm going to try to get back into it. I'm watching the reunion, again, and I think Kim is actually discussing this not so irrationally. It's kind of like Brandi once said, Lisa kind of puts a spell on you where you can't see straight and you want to believe in rainbows but it really isn't rainbows if you take a good look. I think we all have a friend or family member like that. They can make you feel like the center of the world in that one moment they're paying attention to you then they'll drop you like a basketball just because they can. You want to believe their is something more than surface because of that moment(s) but you just don't know. I think all these women feel that way about Lisa. Like Lisa once said, where there's smoke there is probably fire. I don't dislike Lisa but I do think there are things she should probably take a look at about herself that she isn't quite looking at.

I think Kim really dislikes Lisa because she feels Lisa looks down on her which Lisa obviously has for a while (going back to probably Season one). I think the graduation just somehow broke the camels back for Kim. It's a bit of an irrational focus but I think it's coming from just being sick of the way she feels Lisa disrespects her. Out of all the girls, the "Hilton" sisters have the most solid televised reasons to dislike Lisa. Yep. The rather extreme canonizations and the rather extreme villainizations. Moving on to RHO-Heavy Celebrity Apprentice... Kenya started following RHONY's Kristen on Twitter after "Us" reported that she treated Kristen poorly at the Pie thing on Monday. Meh, I don't know if I believe "Us" as they were just quoting one "eyewitness." So it's Olympic Gold Medalist (representing the Winter Games) Jamie Anderson rounding out the Girls team...

This is a big part of the reason I'm Team Brandi, too many Lisa fans are like that. It's like soap opera super-couple ego syndrome.

Lisa fans are so OTT bothered. Brandi isn't fond of Lisa so that means she eats children and blows Satan every night. Yeah, sure, okay. Moving on to Joyce. Brandi's initial dislike of Joyce was irrational and gurl was being a f--ked up b--ch about it. Yes, but lets not go around re-writing history and acting like Brandi was just blowing up at random people for no reason in prior seasons. I do get why Brandi hates Joyce now due to the taping order of some of this stuff. As for Brandi being shady about Joyce in the talking heads ... so what? They're all shady, even the pals, and even Joyce. Painting Yolanda's dislike of Lisa as somehow Brandi's fault makes me ROFL. Yolanda, as well as Kyle and Kim, disliked Lisa way before Brandi did. Brandi was the one choosing a side (to be with or against Lisa) here, not Yolanda.