Angela

I took it the same way Carlton did. By using God, she's comparing what she has to forgive or go through with Brandi to what God had to forgive or went through with sacrificing the life of Jesus for the sinful humans who basically murdered him. She is, more or less, comparing herself to God. People go for Lisa every year. I think Andy likes it because he usually participates in that. That said, the Brandi/Lisa stuff is lightweight. It's like a kid insinuating their "controlling" mother is responsible for everything bad in her life phase EXCEPT their not mother/daughter SO they probably won't bounce back from it.

Heh, Carlton gave attention to something that I did a double-take at myself...

Look at that RH franchise bringing people together instead of tearing them apart

If, if, If. First, she hasn't EVEN acted this much of a mess in the 2 previous seasons of RHOBH she's been on so there's really not much "if" about it. Even if there was, the notion that a woman (or man) deserves to be cheated on repeatedly for any reason besides she herself (or he himself) being a cheating tramp is like nails on a chalkboard to me. If you want to spread your juice freely man or woman up and get a f--kin divorce.

I agree with this. There's a lot of things WRONG with Brandi this season - everyone of us in here can agree with that, I'm sure - but I don't consider her use of profanity a part of that. Heck, her sexuality isn't even part of that although I could do with less information there (same for Carlton). I also find it off-putting to say a woman is less of a woman if she has a mouth like a sailor. It's weird to me these women seem to be more offended by Brandi's use of the F-word than her blatant racist comments. While I don't believe Brandi is racist, she is making a lot of racist comments towards Joyce.

What Brandi is now probably isn't what she always was. I had no real issue with Brandi until this season. She's just over doing it on all cylinders and that's probably part production and probably part depression/addiction(s). I have no real issue with Brandi being friendly with the f-bomb. Her racist comments, on the other hand, are a problem. Her hatred of Joyce is also quite irrational. She to this day hasn't given a good excuse for it. Yes, Joyce tried to throw her UTB for simply giving her advice on how to handle Lisa but was it really that serious? I still could care less about Joyce, but she is "reading" Brandi like an expert. She's pretty much telling it like it is with facts and I can't argue with that. It's always been quite evident Brandi has been stuck in some sort of limbo due to the whole Eddie/Leann debacle. I thought RHOBH would help her climb out of that eventually but it feels like she's soaking in the mud of what's she's lost (marriage, moments with her children, dogs) more than ever. I'd like to see her story take a turn where she climbs out of that hole. I fear it may never happen with Eddie & Leann getting their own reality series. I'm like JP on RHOA vs RHOBH. I look forward to RHOBH more than RHOA by habit BUT, nowadays, I watch RHOBH with a pit in my stomach while I end up enjoying each episode of RHOA much more than I expected.

Re: Cynthia/Nene. I assumed Cynthia got so emotional for the same reason I do once a month. PMS. Nene was going in too hard but that's typical Nene. A water bug joining these -itches together. "Hit it like it's Kornell." LOL. Do Porsha/Kenya still get along or was this moment in time just a fluke?

I actually thought that was bullchit. We always see Brandi with these two girls on RHOBH. Also, Brandi's -ist comments are much more directed towards Hispanics. It's like a 99:1 ratio. One stereotype comment about AA got more juice than 45 pretty much straight out -ist comments about Hispanics. Brandi is being a dumb bitch but Joyce is chit-stirring too.

I got to admit it was the best part of both episodes. Latoya Jackson, lol. I think I can agree with this. LOL. Brandi was doing her best to, for once, SUBTLY shade a fellow housewife in her blog. I assumed Joyce but it was totally Lisa after seeing VR. Lisa set up excellent spill over for VR at her friends expense for ratings.

Kyle seems to offend Carlton and her witchcraftia religion.

Oh my gosh, Jax is all like "why is Latoya Jackson accusing Brandi of being racist?" I. laughed. I can see why Brandi feel used by Lisa when they center a VR episode like this.

The VR reaction episode is cracking me up. I don't know where I stand on this. I could excuse it prior to this because it felt like really stupid humor and drunk bitch behavior (not that being drunk excuses it), tonight it just was once, twice, three times too much and she didn't even seem drunk. Then there's the fact that she clearly has two Hispanic children that she loves and her two best friends are not white. Brandi really does remind me of my mother in terms of the way she talks - racist tendencies particularly against Hispanics (and cursing). My father was a cheating (beating) jack ass so she has had negative impressions of Hispanic people because of his behavior and because of the people he cheated on her with. I hope Brandi can make a turn around from this. It's not the note I want to see her leave the series on if this ends her run on the series. It sucks that she's not even really acknowledging what she's doing with the racist/ethnic comments to this day. I'd love her to admit the comments are wrong and attempt to explain why it's coming off her lips so dang naturally.

I'm a Brandi apologist but there's no way to get around her going straight to ethnic/racist jabs whenever dealing with this chick. There's no excuse for it. She's old enough to know better.

Brandi: I'm not racist. Multiple Dinner Guests: She's not racist. [Minutes later] Brandi [to Joyce]: Go back from where you came. Damn. Just no. She's doing these swipes on every episode MORE THAN ONCE. I likeD her - and I don't give a crap about Joyce - but I can't defend it. Joyce did handle herself well in these arguments in terms of taking the claws out and scratching..

Meh. It's an ensemble show and Lisa isn't the second coming of anything as much as I do like her and as much as I do think she is a better pedigree than most of these other bitches. It's not so much about what any of these women are or aren't. With me, at least, it's about not really liking any of their current "characters" all that much.

There was a humorous tone to it before. RHOBH was usually just stupid fun despite the drama ... until this season. It's like nobody really took the crap all that seriously before. This year things are so pronounced and there's jagged edges everywhere. I'm not sure if it's the casting changes, editing or the Season 4 curse. Brandi - a filthy drunk with racist tendancies Yolanda - a snob who acts like a mean girl Lisa - so over (and above) everybody It's a kind of sad season when the Richards sisters are coming off the softest on a season. I always did get the impression that Andy wants to let Kyle get top dog position if she can get it. He goes in on Lisa on reunion shows. RHOA is bouncing back this year, on the other hand. It has a lighter feel to it than it's had in years and I appreciate that. I have to watch the second airing tonight as I was interrupted by phone calls during the 8 o'clock airing. Kenya and Porsha getting along so well this episode was interesting. Nene making everybody cry and not really giving a poop was very Nene, haha.

Occasional pair of shoes aside, I haven't heard one peep about Lisa or Yolanda financially supporting Brandi. A person who appears to have a problem with drinking whining about friends having a problem with them drinking is not throwing the friends under the bus. It's the normal irrational and pathetic response an addict will have to anybody having opposition to them continuing with their addiction. She really, really is over every single one of them. While I don't blame her at all, I don't love when that much of a disconnection happens in a cast.

Besides that Yolanda ex-hubby leak/lie, Brandi hasn't really hurt anybody but herself by running her mouth. Did I miss something, did she try to ruin Lisa's marriage by revealing that Ken has rubbed her ass repeatedly? Did she say anything to Kyle that wasn't true about her personality or in the papers already? Heck Lisa's "well, I can't say that for definite" while being taped for national television was more harmful. Brandi is coming off like a racist but it's against the ethnicity of her sons (Hispanic) for the most part which makes it weird. That doesn't make Joyce look anyways, it makes Brandi look like a stupid, irrational assh-le with both jealousy issues and racist tendencies. . Kyle? IMO, she wants to be top dog, as long as Lisa is standing in her way I don't see her coming to Lisa no matter what. IMO, at the reunion, she'll play protective of Brandi but "honest." Boyce ain't going to serve anybody unless Brandi comes to the reunion completely hammered. Then again ... maybe Joyce will? I'll have to see how fight night plays out on Monday.

RHOA is actually kind of fun this year although sometimes it's a little too loud, ex:Kenya vs. Kandi on the bus. The new chick has to stay long enough for Kandi and Phaedra (AND KENYA the troublemaker) to be in the same room with her and her husband, lol.

I'm pretty sure I heard Brandi say something close to "speak in English, this isn't Miami" on last nights episode. Brandi is pretty much almost always shading Joyce's ethnicity. BRAVO has been practically showing every single time she's done it IMO. You guys are haters Leave Kim and her dog and her squirrels alone.

I said she is. I don't feel Brandi's thirsty for top dog position at all as much as she talks bs. Kyle is. Brandi is thirsty to keep her job. Joyce is what Kyle would be if Kyle wasn't calculating. So, uhm, thank you for being calculating Kyle? LOL. Joyce is also comparable to Porscha (on her first Season) on RHOA except even less interesting. So much truth. If you want her to disappear, stop handing her the little bit of relevancy she has on the show on a silver platter you friggin IDIOT. Joyce ain't even really fishing for it from Brandi, at least initially.

Kim has been spot on a lot this season. It was unusual in a great way that she didn't want to really do a preaching sound bite on Brandi's drinking. The thought of any story surrounding Joyce in Season 5? No. Just no. I'm fine with Brandi coming back for Season 5 if Season 4 Brandi is gone. I get why other people wouldn't be. She's coming off really hateful of Joyce's ethnicity and that's majorly f--ked up. That said, her children are Latin. Maybe she's taking out her hate of Eddie on a Latin person she don't know that well? She kind of reminds me of my mother in a way in that particular way. If this isn't all an act there are some interesting dynamics going on there. Brandi does become an a--hole when you put alcohol in front of her. There's this motherly vibe between Lisa and Brandi and Brandi pulling away from Lisa feels like when a young adult rebels against their mom but still loves their mom. From Lisa's side too, at least so far. I honestly feel like Brandi feels like she's been Lisa's bitch and that's the way Lisa wants it. She feels like Lisa has been using her. I don't feel that's an accurate assessment although I do feel Lisa is a bit "ready for TV." I don't blame Kyle for flipping Brandi. Maybe I should somewhat? IDK. Brandi obviously got the impression Lisa was pulling her strings and we have Kyle mentioning how different Brandi is when she isn't around Lisa on every episode. Kyle probably did pass that observation along to Brandi. I do find it odd Kyle clearly wants Brandi on her side even over the prospect of Lisa taking (Kyle) back. I guess you can't underestimate her jealousy of Lisa "taking her position." I feel like Kyle doesn't know how not to be calculating. I don't think she does it on purpose. It's just who she is.

Yes. She's a mess. Brandi is a straight out bitch to her and pretty much makes fun of her race and ethnicity when she's striking out at her, what does she want from her for what she gives to her? Joyce, as boring and unnecessary as she is, is basically calling a spade a spade especially in terms of Brandi becoming a really stupid bitch especially when she drinks.

Pretty much. Brandi just says what she wants - no matter what - then cries victim. What's off-putting about it this season besides her doing it every other second IS that she just seems so darn messy. I don't know it it's the drinking or that she's trying too hard to hog air-time. Yolanda? This may be a culture issue. I remember I initially thought she had a pretty cold personality before she joined Brandi and Lisa's clique. The coldness is a little more evident this season. Lisa is a lot like Yolanda. I do think she is very image conscious (read: Nene; Housewife fame going to head) while Yolanda is just being Yolanda. Carlton scares me a little but I like her. She's a hypocrite but it usually makes me LOL. I love how straight forward she is. She's like a "sane"/"mature" mix of Brandi and Kim with a spoonful of Lisa and Yolanda. I like Kim and, yes, even Kyle this season. There are definitely moments Kyle still annoys me. Joyce. Replace her ASAP.

She really has some bust out laughing one-liners. Oh Brandi, girl. I'm not totally giving up on you but you better get a dang grip next season. Carlton's dislike of Kyle continues to be hilarious. That said, there is nothing impressive about her body IMO. Everybody in this cast has a better body than her besides for maybe Kim. I should like Joyce because she's being harassed w/o justification BUT she just has no personality. I am liking Kyle and Kim this season a little more than last season. Their reactions to Carlton are worth the price of admission. Yolanda continues to be Yolanda, but Yolanda IS pretentious. Lisa. She is the Queen but I'm sort of seeing where the other ladies are coming from. I "like" all of the ladies except for Joyce because she is boring. That said, this season is taking the usually fun BH down the dark road of NJ and Atlanta. I don't like it. I'm loving Atlanta thanks to the non-boring Joyce in the franchise. Who would have thought Kandi and her crew would have the most interesting dynamics of any season of RHOA?