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P.J.

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  1. I really doubt they'd come back with a Carly dvd....they want to reach the widest possible fan base. My guess would be they'd do a character comparable to GL's Reva (one that spans generations)....perhaps Barbara, Lisa or Lily.

    Random thought---did Eileen Fulton ever do an interview with someone like Dick Cavett? It would be fabulous to have some kind of "extras" like that in addition to the episodes.

  2. I hadn't watched either, but I have more of an affinity for the ATWT set, I just poured through those discs and watched every episode, while I admit to getting bored with GL. And of course ya'll know I'm not buying the Kim Zimmer set, but that's the first one I didn't want.

    I definitely want the CarJack set, though I wish it was a Maura West/Carly set instead. I would have loved to have seen a couple episodes from her initial run and continue through her major moments until the end. And it still could have included the MAJOR CarJack stuff. Perhaps we're getting a Maura West addendum, like we did for the original ATWT and GL sets? Hint, hint Roger... wink.png

    But I'm not complaining at all. I'm grateful we're even getting this stuff at all and I can only hope that some of the other classic soaps will follow suit and start doing these DVDs, which should have happened YEARS ago!

    It sure is! Thank you SO much for this! Though I did watch intermittently in the 90s (mainly Maura West's first run), I really became a fan of ATWT in the 2000s and it surpassed Y&R and DAYS as MY soap (though I have more history with DAYS, I admit that I was far more hooked on ATWT/Y&R in the 2000s until Y&R fell apart and I started watching DAYS more again).

    This has been a real treat though, getting to watch all this stuff for the 1st time, since I was an NBC fan in the good ol days.

    AMEN!

    Agreed on Bryce and while I enjoyed Block's Craig (he was like a mix of SB's Mason and Keith), I think I enjoyed Carly's storyline with Lindstrom's Craig far more. Never thought I'd say that.

    As an aside, I can't believe that in one decade of ATWT fanhood, I sat through 4 Craigs! Obviously I favored Bryce because I realllllly liked his Craig when I tuned in the 90s, but I HATED how he was written and the characters he was played with. Hell, I resented it, so I can't even begin to imagine how the longtime ATWT fans felt about it.

    By default, I "enjoyed" Lindstrom more than Block, simply because Pissy made it clear "Craig" was nothing more than a loser and took away any and all pretense of his omnipetence. Sheffer had such a man crush on Block, he made Craig into an unrecognizable mess to play into his "strengths".

    Bryce was completely wasted in the Paul/Meg vortex of suck. The talent it took to make a near baby-killer the sympathetic one in the triangle is off the charts. Firing him was a major WTF decision I will never understand.

    I'm down with an all Carly dvd. There were lots of Hal-moments I loved. And natch, there'd be lots of Jack in it. ;)

  3. I don't understand a Carjacker who "isn't familiar" with these moments. They're some of the most iconic moments in their story. Maybe they're thrown off by the short synopses. Maybe they expected more of the proposals-weddings kind of highlighty-thing.

    Psst...I would have paid to see Bryce's Craig mix it up with Carjack. PAID. Instead, I had five years of JabbatheCraigHut slobbering over Carly any chance he got, and two years of pussyCraig making her into a drunk and stealing from Parker. UGH!

  4. Yeah, those bastards are prying $20 out of my pocket. Not that Carjack could have a bad episode : ) , but I can't quibble with one of those choices. It might have been nice to have the follow-up to their 2003 wedding (for those of us who'd bought the 20-episode set, so we could see Jack's actual reaction to Carly telling him Sage was theirs) but that's about it.

  5. Did anyone else ever feel like Carly was never quite the same after she returned in 1997?

    I think it's down to them taking away some of the vulnerability she had in her first run.

    IA, Carly seems almost like a different character after Maura returned in '97, but in a good way. I think she brings more to the role. It's really hard for me to watch anything from her first run---Carly seems so much harder to me. Although, maybe it's because (IMO) she's working so hard in scenes with poor castmates. Perry and Christian seem to suck the energy out of every scene they're in.

  6. I can't believe how much all the Diego/Emily scenes look like REALLY cheap porn. There's nothing wrong with soaps and sex but scene after scene in this episode is full of positions which were clearly designed to "shock" viewers.

    Well, the video quality doesn't help. LOL. I think soaps in general were guilty of trying to "amp it up" to compete with primetime and cable shows like NYPD Blue with bare asses and slo-mo grinding and orgasm faces. I forget who was HW/EP but this was an admitted low point for ATWT, with Diego, Mark/Connor, etc.

  7. First....Carl, you're killing me with the 2004 stuff. It's a very bad time for Carjack. ;0

    Thanks for posting those pics, soaps. Imagine, there was actually a time the 'soap press' acted like ATWT was important and worthy of coverage. I've always loved that pic of Finn/Scott and I've kept that 35th anniversary issue of SOD all these years.

  8. The Lisa/Carly hostility was over the fact Carly married John when they all thought he was Parker's father. Which really didn't make any sense since Lisa had pretty much known all about Carly's $50 million dollar scheme and if not supported her going after it, understood why she chose Hal over Jack at the time. Lisa's role in general dropped off mightily around '00 anyway, and the only "bad" girl she took under her wing was her goddaughter Bonnie.

    I have a feeling most of Lisa's bitchiness toward Carly (ocassionally Emily and the odd newbie run in) was simply TIIC trying to keep the myth of "Lisa, Queen of the Bitches" alive. KWIM? Unfortunately, most of the time, it simply made her look like a doddering idiot, as when Lisa treated Jack's "wife" not-that-JuliaII as if they were long lost besties---which stopped the minute not-that-JuliaII decided to [!@#$%^&*] Holden.

    I'd like to see some of Runyeon's work before the "Steve and Betsy" thing happened. I wonder if his ego kind of got the best of him, or if that's simply the way he always was. I gotta say---watching early Justin Dees is a revelation when all you really remember are his GL Buzz-ed years.

  9. Lily called any woman who crossed her either obsessed with men or a victim. Lily rarely got called out on her own tendency to play victim or lose any spine she had to whatever man was in her life. At least to her face.

    CC and Maura had a handful of scenes after she replaced LK. The most memorable was on the bridge where Jack died. Carly ripped into her---but CC looked lost in them up against Maura. It just wasn't the same given all of Carly and Molly's history. CC's did better with JH, but it was clearly a mop up job to ship Molly out of town. I'm not even sure Molly told Carly she was leaving town.

    Carly most definitely blamed Molly for Jack's death, but between Molly's departure and the fact Carly didn't really believe for very long Jack was dead, it kind of got swept under the rug. When LK returned in '09, she and Carly pretty much picked up where they left off, kind of avoiding the subject of why they'd been estranged but reaffirming that they'd missed each other.

  10. Cimmino was great as Parker! I was crushed when he was recast with Hazen.

    So was I. And to be fair, I was crushed when they recast Kalchoffer (little red-headed parker) with Cimmino. Knowing what I know now, I'm glad they did...but had the show continued, I'd argue they aged Carly's kids too quickly. Even as much as I admire Hazen in the role.

  11. It tells you how much I was watching at this time - for some reason I thought Mick Hazen was already playing Parker. Clearly not.

    They recast the part with Cimmino just before Jack's "death" in 2004. Hazen took over the role just before Christmas 2006, just weeks before Maura's maternity leave when they had Carly fly off with Simon.

  12. Honestly, if either GL or ATWT were still on, I'd never watch OLTL. There is really an underlying vibe of hostility that I don't really get or like. I don't know if that's just the difference between CBS(P&G) vs. ABC or if it's specific to OLTL. I used to wish we'd get more bitchiness/catfights/swearing---now I'm glad we didn't drop "bitch" or "piss" every episode.

  13. Thanks for clearing that up for me PJ! I was in college at the time and whole show was unraveling pretty fast.

    Craig sleeping with Jennifer was probably the worst but Block as Craig was already out the door by that point.

    I hated that Ben's pill addiction went nowhere and I also later hated James terrorizing Rosanna and taking the fall for Emily being gaslight-ed. The whole thing was a mess.

    I also think TIIC knew Ferrin wanted to try out L.A. and Jen would be off the canvas for a while at some point. I really can't explain what they were thinking---it was one of the ickier moments---not that I ever wanted to see Block in any kind of love scene.

    I really resented the slap-dash way they'd write McClain out. It was as if they a) had no idea how long her contract was for and B) thought giving her the same old craptastic storyline would keep her coming back. She should have had some "Cabot" clause written into her contract paying her a bonus every time she said his name.

  14. That's pretty vile, even more than I had thought. It's classic Sheffer - I think he assumed viewers got off on this type of thing, as he did when he had Craig give that woman a suicide pill, and his using Bryant's death for a pity screw, and on and on.

    Didn't Sierra find out and that led to the lame monastery thing?

    This was around the time that the fans who just loved Hunt Block's Craig and said everything Craig did to hurt people proved he was the "real" Craig suddenly stopped.

    I do think Sheffer wanted that "cool edgy" rep, and it just backfired completely. It was the same with Julia raping Jack, and the end of the Spa Story which also had Hal being tortured by James and backhanded implications that both Carly and Em were tortured as well. You can't imply those kind of things to a daytime audience, and turn around and not deal with it in a meaningful way. Hal dealt with it off-screen, Carly had one nightmare and Em tumbled out of a trunk before helping Babs stab James. It just proved Sheffer didn't understand the audience's connection to the characters or how to use one story to organically move into another.

    Yep, somehow Sierra put together what Craig had done and imprisoned him in that monestary. I didn't think it was a bad premise, just not carried through. Of course, just as Craig was on the verge of making some kind of acknowledgement of his actions, he was freed (by a crusading Lily I think) and blasted Sierra for her duplicity.

    The turning point for Craig was when it was revealed he'd been the one behind Lucy's kidnapping. A lot of his supporters really had a hard time swallowing that one. Honestly, I admired Sheffer for not backing away from that. Even if I disagreed with his vision of Craig---it was behavior in keeping with how they wrote him at the time. To me, it was no different from the way he'd backstabbed Carly and Rosanna while proclaiming that he "loved" them.

    On a side note---watching OLTL wind down, I see the wisdom behind ATWT's last days. Not that it was brilliant, but the way OLTL is throwing "fan favorites" out like beads at Mardi Gras just turns me off. As a new viewer they mean nothing to me. And you think Sheffer is a misogynist? OLTL right now is fascinated with threats of rape and gun violence against women. It's more than disturbing.

  15. They didn't really "do" anything with Paul and Lucy---she had a crush on him (they got stuck in that snowstorm with Carly---Carly and Paul were once again "secret" partners at BRO and Lucy finagled a ride to "check out colleges") after he saved her from being raped. Craig went ballistic because he was a controlling jerkwad, and they kind of suggested Paul was going to use Lucy to stick it to Craig. But I don't remember the story really going anywhere.

    Craig had a lot to do with Allan's death. One of the lackeys he used to kidnap Lucy was blackmailing him, (I think he took Lily hostage or something) and Allan went to pay the ransom. Somehow Allan got shot, but he had overheard that said lackey had been on Craig's payroll. Allan made it to the hospital where the doctors said it was critical that he remain calm. Craig saw Allan's blood pressure spike when he saw him (and tried to tell them Craig was involved) once, so he deliberately let Allan see him again, causing him to relapse and die.

    If that wasn't bad enough, he then ruined the man's name, framing him after his death. It was despicable. It was around this time Craig also shot and killed one of the kidnappers on a rooftop, after the man threatened to tell what he knew. It was definitely murder and no one (except for probably Dusty) ever put the pieces together, and Craig made himself into a "hero".

    2004 was rough....there was a noticable uptick in the pacing of stories, and a noticable drop off in logic and common sense. Don't get me started on Jack's "death" and how he wound up across the Mississippi River in Missouri with the covienently named "Julia". And I hated the Keys to the Kingdom and the Rick Decker stories. In spite of my childhood crush on John James.

  16. Y'know, I know people hate that blue opening, but I think it represented the show rather well. It's classy. I've been stuck watching OLTL, and while there's nothing "wrong" with that opening, it's dark and depressing looking. Don't get me started on the cheese-tastic mid-show bumpers which look as bad as they're "acted."

  17. No, Cabot was alive. James, of course, saved him before the cabin blew up. James kidnapped Rosanna to some Hong Kong whorehouse where Craig found her. Somehow they escaped and Rosanna arranged to hide Cabot through a "blind" adoption of sorts. However, I don't think they ever told anyone (including his father Jordan) what they'd done---to protect Cabot from James---other than Paul.

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