Khan

Agree. Plus, it's really stupid and impractical. There's nothing wrong with HAVING a police force. We just need the DOJ to be more diligent in holding them accountable whenever they've crossed the lines.

Because, in the eyes of most progressives, that means compromise, which a lifetime of pouting and stamping their feet to get whatever they want has taught them never to do. (Of course, I could be wrong, but it's been my experience that a progressive is one who has never been told "no.")

Yes, we can.

It's always ugly to watch Little Donny prove himself to his dad. I mean, if anyone needed self-affirmations from Stuart Smalley more....

I might have said this before on this board, but I have prepared myself for the possibility of never seeing another non-Caucasian male elected to the WH in my lifetime. Same goes for a potential female president, or even gay or lesbian one (sorry, Pete). I'll be surprised and delighted if any of that happens, but America is just too broken to accept anything other than straight, white men as its' leaders. Taking another crack at changing that mindset, I'm afraid, will have to be up to the next generation.

Agree. If anything, the GOP has co-opted his principles (such as they are) to the point where they almost don't need him anymore to accomplish whatever they want to accomplish. There isn't anything that says someone else -- perhaps, someone with more finesse -- won't come along to fill the vacuum that Donald Trump will inevitably leave behind, thereby morphing Trumpism into something else.

Bill Stepien: "Donald Trump is alive and well." Khan: "And she's living in Omaha." (Just a little "Unsolved Mysteries" reference for you diehards out there.)

So, we're "stealing" the presidential election NOW, then coming back in January to "steal" the GA runoffs, too? Wow, that's some straight-up Bill Bell-esque plotting right there.

I'm sorry, but how in da fuq are we (Democrats) stealing the election from Trump yet somehow allowed the GOP to maintain its' hold over the Senate? Like, we'd have to be the dumbest crooks in the world for that to happen, lol!

Of course, as we now know, Hillary's loss had nothing to do with "economic anxiety" and everything to do w/ repudiating Obama's leadership and believing the multitude of lies that the media had told about the Clintons, but whatevs.

God bless Twitter. One of the stories that's getting lost in the Walmart Riots and the GA/NV/PA ballot count watches: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-11-04/l-a-county-makes-history-with-all-female-board-of-supervisors

Is it just me, or does anyone else think Trump and his supporters are behaving like the Duke brothers at the end of "Trading Places"?

If anything, I don't think we were inclusive enough -- Biden's performance among Latinos and African-American men bears this out -- and we focused too much on winning back the WWC, which, I can see now, is never gonna happen.

But, he's still losing.

How is losing by 32.9 points "a terrific performance for Biden"?

Yes, we won, but -- as I said this morning -- we needed to do more than just win a presidential election. We also needed to declare a moral victory against right-wing nationalism, which we can't, because 45-50 percent of us still voted for Trump. How do we reconcile ourselves with that knowledge? How can we coexist with so many whose hearts and minds refuse to be changed? And how is it supposed to help restore the faith and trust that other nations once had in us? Factor in our inability to take back the Senate -- which will make it difficult, if not impossible, for Biden/Harris to implement even a tenth of their agenda, lest we're able to regain it in '22 -- and I'm left feeling like Biden's victory is a pyrrhic one. Yeah, he won, but now we're faced with the threat of a nation that might be broken beyond repair.

What is?

Trump supporters are trying to disturb counting of votes in the Detroit counting location, and how is CNN framing it? "Tense Situation At Detroit Counting Location." Which is just vague as hell and lets the Trumpers off the metaphorical hook. Could we please vote CNN off the airwaves?

As the Rev. Jesse Jackson once said, "Baby, wake up! Your time has come!".

You're right, @marceline. I really shouldn't lay ALL our problems at the Democratic Party's feet. We have to take some responsibility, too, for being such a rotten electorate. And you're right, too, @Vee: a win is still a win -- sigh -- and I guess I should focus on that. But...I gotta tell ya...part of me still feels disappointed and discouraged, nevertheless.

If that's so, then why do you have people on the right who keep insisting that he (and Kamala) are socialists, no matter how much or how often we keep insisting they're not? Because, we aren't doing enough (IMO) to repudiate the far-left. We keep letting them inside, in the name of bringing everyone under the same tent, instead of barring the [!@#$%^&*] doors against them. We need to make it clear, or clearer, that their brand of progressive activism has no place in EITHER party, or we're gonna keep having close elections with razor-thin margins such as this one.

FFS, would someone PLEASE put the Edit button back where it was?

Well, for starters, it'd be nice if the Democratic Party were to renounce not just the far-left progressive types who arose in the wake of Bernie's so-called revolution and co-opted our party for their own grift, but strike any and all elements of their pie-in-the-sky agenda from our platform as well. The right and far-right insist that we are hellbent on turning this country into a socialist nation -- which is so not true, but hard to argue down when we keep setting places for, say, AOC and the rest of the "squad" at our table. I mean, right here in Oklahoma, all Stephanie Bice had to do was say Kendra Horn was BFF's with AOC (and with Nancy Pelosi, another highly-profiled Democrat who might be doing us more harm than good the longer she stays near the front of the line) and it was lights out for the first Democratic senator my state has had since God knows when.

I don't know which is worse: mistaking Gladys Knight for the late Aretha Franklin, or that [!@#$%^&*]. Like no one could find a photo of Kanye's sorry ass to put up there. Please. Just...please.