ranger1rg

21 hours ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

2 feet? Might have been generous! 

Yeah, you're right. More like a foot LOL

And notice the dinner table. No platters, no side dishes. Weirdest dinner at someone's place that I've ever seen.

7 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

So they brought back Wyatt for one episode just to say he was leaving town?

Yes, Bradley Bell has no stories to tell. He has run of ideas.

I can't believe Darin Brooks agreed to that appearance. He's probably thinking they'll bring him back at some point since that's what awful Bradley does.

Not addressing Taylor? Just more proof this show doesn't give a damn about its viewers. Bell KNOWS how much we enjoyed KA for a year. He doesn't care.

Instead we get a storyline about Eric dying from a disease that was never named and getting a transplant for whatever. And today? Carter tells Eric he's been like a father to him.

I just can't.

8 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

Uhm no, never have had any TBH. 

I don't see the chemistry either. None.

1 hour ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I’ll never like that big ugly window at Xander and Sarah’s

So bad.

Today we also got Steve, Kayla, Tripp and Wendy eating dinner at a table that was 2 feet from the kitchen and also 2 feet from the front door. Special.

Just now, dragonflies said:

 

 

Soap propping is a thing, but this is next level.

Today's episode was boring, so I concentrated on the fact that Salem has THE ugliest apartments in America.

1 minute ago, Vee said:

Oh, I waited almost a week to see if you would demand anyone leave the thread for disagreeing with you, as is your brand.

I must be in there 24/7

12 minutes ago, Vee said:

Perhaps we can pause to consider the irony of preaching independent thinking when for years some folks have turned up mostly to rail against anyone not enjoying these shows and suggesting anyone "too critical" leave the thread.

Also, it was a two day memorial, not four.

Some people just wait to jump on my posts. LMAO. Good to know I can always count on being "corrected."

1 hour ago, Khan said:

I guess Johnny doesn't see color?  *shrug*

I'm white, but honestly, I cringe when I hear a white person say "I don't see color." I just think it's clueless at best and ignorant at worst. I hope they never have Johnny say something like that.

On 1/13/2024 at 7:22 PM, Darn said:

And I appreciate that you and @ranger1rg recognized yourselves in my "wah wah flashbacks" comment. I didn't even need to tag you!

LOL Your posts never entered my mind, so you might want to pull back on the self-flattery. I fully explained my feelings about the first 3 days of the memorial and why the 4th and final day was so special. Nothing you said had anything to do with my comments.

20 hours ago, AMCHistory said:

Ryan Carnes knocked this out of the park. All the dramatic close-ups were on him. Even with few lines, his brooding and sadness, was so complex, was such a feeling. He out acted many of the vets. Gosh, I wish they could entice him to come back. I understand that in every other run he was a b-player in storylines. He can really shine.

Cannot tell you how much I agree with you about Ryan Carnes. It's a shame that the Emmys never reward performances like his, instead choosing actors who (over)emote. Carnes' realness brought me to tears.

1 hour ago, Darn said:

All you "wah wah where are the flashbacks" people are real quiet right now. Are you not embarazzed?

Uh...I think I already addressed how tough I was on the first 3 days of the memorial and how good day 4 was.

Embarrassed? As I just stated, I don't take back anything I said. Our complaints were valid, and an exceptional episode doesn't erase those problems.

2 hours ago, titan1978 said:

Also, can we keep Ryan Carnes please? And that Champ scene at the end really got me.

Would love to see Ryan Carnes back. His presence during these episodes meant so much. Carnes is such an understated actor, and one who exudes empathy and authenticity. That Champ scene doesn't work without him.

Kudos also to Brighton Hertford. Bringing her back for these episodes was genius, but let's not forget that she's also an incredibly strong actress, and that's what made the gamble work.

I was very hard on the first 3 days of this memorial, and I don't back away from what I said, but this 4th day was very special. I did cringe at the quick-as-anything trip to and from Amsterdam where they found Bobbie's contacts in a day -- that line from Maxie that it took place over days didn't work for me -- but that's minor compared to all else that went on.

18 hours ago, janea4old said:

March 2023

Edward Quartermaine, Steve Hardy, Lila Quartermaine

Rick Webber, Tony Jones, Alan Quartermaine, Gail Baldwin, Britt Westborne

Jessie Brewer, Lucille March, Amy Vining, Epiphany Johnson

 

Is there a reason Edward And Lila's photos are 3x the size of everyone else's?

I understand why Steve Hardy's pic is bigger, but the Quartermaines? Were their money machinations at the hospital so huge to merit that attention?

And this might sound macabre, but what happens when someone not hospital-related at all dies? If something happens to Maurice Benard, does his photo go up on the wall because he walked the halls of General Hospital all the time?

5 minutes ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

As we all know GH was in production throughout the entirety of both strikes. Only the writers were not as they were picketing. All of the rest of the employees crossed the picket line. And I just bet that Frank began thinking about this within days of her death. Besides the major point of contention is flashbacks, expensive? or not? If something like flashbacks isn't in the budget, I think that's a fiscal problem! Frank's supposed to be great with the danged budget. Now it was Nathan Varni who said they weren't affordable but I'm not convinced he knows daytime! (Not entirely sure what he does know. Ruling out social media, communication, budgeting, ...) 

And if flashbacks are that expensive, why do we get so many of them on Y&R? No one can tell me that the budget there is any greater than GH's.

11 minutes ago, janea4old said:

The writers strike began May 2.
Jackie died May 9.
The actors strike began July 14.

The actors strike had nothing to do with soap actors. The writers strike didn't eliminate the countless other GH employees who could have worked on this memorial.

23 minutes ago, Darn said:

@ranger1rg really bold to tell someone why they feel the way they do. And this is a soap opera, a continuing story, the lifeblood of the damn thing is have one moment influence the next so yeah Bobbie's death is creating new story for the people left behind.

Really bold to tell someone what the definition of a soap opera is.

Look, I have no problem with Bobbie's death creating new story. I do have a problem with her memorial being secondary to that new story. GH could have honored Zeman properly while also introducing new story, and that didn't happen.

I had such high hopes that GH would do this right, especially since the Sonya Eddy/Epiphany tribute was so powerful and emotional. This is so far below acceptable that I don't know what to say.

15 hours ago, wonderwoman1951 said:

that must be one steep curve. while hal’s memorial might have been ‘somewhat distasteful,’ blowing through nancy’s (and helen’s) in a single episode — no on-screen funeral, no returning family members — and only a couple of weeks before the show's final episode…

sorry — while gh’s effort may seem inadequate to some fans, it’s eons better than the insult ‘world turns fans had thrown in our faces. 

With all due respect, none of this is about ATWT or the Helen Wagner tribute. If that was so terrible, why use it as a bar that the JZ tribute needed to clear?

The fact is that GH has blown this Bobbie tribute. They had 8 months to prepare for this, and it feels like they did nothing for 7 of those months.

42 minutes ago, janea4old said:

I cried so much yesterday.  I don't know how I'll get through today's episode.

You cried because you miss Jaclyn Zeman -- not because of what was on the screen.

6 minutes ago, Darn said:

Didn't expect to come here and find 90% of the comments bitching about flashbacks. Good lord. Go to youtube if you need flashbacks that bad. It's free.

Jane and Lynn's grief felt palpable, I felt like they were going to break a few times. And Laura's eulogy was beautiful and after a certain point it was clear that Genie was no longer talking about Bobbie but Jackie.

We should go to You Tube if we want clips of Bobbie? Huh??? Sorry, I have a completely different idea of what a tribute/memorial should be than you do. It's not "Create a new storyline for the dead woman's daughter."

Yes, the grief from Genie, Jane, and Lynn felt palpable. I mentioned that before: we felt the sadness of REAL people who loved a REAL human being. The writing didn't do it.

I hope tomorrow is better, because that was not good.

Yes, the funeral and speeches were touching, but as others have said, it was over before it started. We got to see a lot of cast members and feel their grief, but then they disappeared in the entire last half of the hour. Ryan Carnes was a strong presence, but given too little to do.

Flashbacks? We got two of them -- and Bobbie spoke in only one. They totaled under one minute of screen time.

And this whole trafficking story? Others may think it's a great way to honor Bobbie/Jaclyn Zeman, but it just pisses me off, because they'd never give JZ a story like this if she were still around. GH and Frank Valentini ignored her for years, so pretending this honors her is a crock.

I did tear up, but only because I imagined the sadness of the real actors (Genie, Kin, Laura, Kristina) who knew and miss Jaclyn Zeman, not because of the memorial writers have given her.

Eric in his hospital bed to EJ: "Hang on to Luna."

Seriously? LOL What sad writing.

32 minutes ago, Beachstorm said:

I mean, how many times has she retired? It was ridiculous the last time she retired because everyone knew she would be back. Just like everyone knows she'll be gone again whenever the mood strikes her.

I don't think Eileen Davidson ever announced her "retirement." Does she call some shots on her contract? Yeah, and I'm fine with it. That's what superstars are able to do. Y&R knows how valuable she is.

7 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

I don't think Eileen Davidson ever announced her "retirement." Does she call some shots on her contract? Yeah, and I'm fine with it. That's what superstars are able to do. Y&R knows how valuable she is.

 

Also, I'm enjoying all the whining on X about Victor calling Nikki "my baby" over and over. I've got to think Eric Braeden knows exactly how many people he's irritating and is having fun with it.

14 minutes ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

LOL. Okay. We're saying different things but the same. 

I see something good but it needs to be fixed

You see something bad because they didn't fix it. 

You're right, of course. But the thing is, they can't fix it once it's done and over.

If we get those clips in the next couple episodes, I'll revise my criticism. Even if they do, though, I think 2 days of just talking about Bobbie is excessive.

11 minutes ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

I don't agree. I think this is an interesting way to pay heed to an important player. And, I think I am feeling the experience more. But, I do think they aren't using enough clips. There should be flashbacks galore. On UglyX someone posted that NV had said they aren't doing flashbacks because they're too expensive. Well, basically that's because a royalty, no a residual may have to be paid. And, if that is really their reason then they need to reprioritize to be able TO afford them. Because they are that important. 

OK, Donna, but you just made my point that this isn't working as is.

The clips are essential. Without them, we're left with people visiting Carly. They tell her they're sorry, they start to walk away, and she calls them back. Why? To TALK. It's not working.

Jaclyn Zeman died 8 MONTHS AGO. You mean in all that time GH couldn't reprioritize enough to afford clips of Bobbie Spencer?

10 minutes ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

Meanwhile I thought Brian Gaskill did an excellent job. Above average.

Completely agree about Brian Gaskill. I've only seen his day one appearance, but I thought he was excellent. It felt like he really knew Nikki and that he was really comfortable onscreen.

I imagined the script he was given -- and how he turned that dialogue into something special of his own. Really good stuff.

2 minutes ago, Khan said:

 I just don't believe Josh Griffith took enough steps to get us (or at least me) to a place where I could buy Chance and Sharon as a couple even temporarily.

If Ashley's current storyline ain't working, it ain't because of Eileen.

I can't disagree with your point about Josh Griffith. The steps weren't taken, the beats weren't played. Still -- and it pains me to say it because I love Sharon Case so much -- I don't think Sharon gave anything to that storyline.

Consider what you said about Eileen in her current story. No one can accuse her of not giving her all in every scene, regardless of the problems with the writing, the storyline direction, or TSJ.