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Yep. Happened to me. Thank goodness, I have Hulu via Spotify. The episode was done so well. The Michael/Chase fight - both verbal and physical was excellent. I loved that they held the Drew/Willow stuff until later in the episode. It made it far more dramatic. MW looked amazing. As soon as Trina waxed Kai's virtues, I said to myself - 'bye, Kai' Oh, and, Dr. Gannon thank you for putting Stella in her place.

Is this a full pre-emption? I've been seeing clips on X from today's episode. I'd like to watch it on Hulu this evening. Separately, I'm convinced Drew knows Willow shot him. Yeah, he's screaming about Michael, who he knows didn't do it. If Drew didn't know who shot him, he'd be discreetly pushing the Feds to find out who actually did do it since they'd still be out there.

I've never been a fan of JMcC/Eric, but I thoroughly enjoyed his scenes with HT. It's almost as if JMcC was speaking for himself - about being put out to pasture before he was ready, etc. I also like Donna trying to balance her sisters and her concern for Eric. Honestly, I'm shocked at B&B's turnaround during the past 6 weeks. I came back the episode when $B gifted LOGAN and the show has been the best since pre-2020. The past 4 years have been horrific ever since the 'alley'. As long as Brad doesn't pull the Sheila psycho card with Deacon/Taylor, I'll be good. Maybe Brad will watch old episodes and revert her to the master manipulator she once was. There are so many delicious things Sheila could do to Taylor and Deacon without resorting to violence.

The heat between CW/CM is undeniable. That ending was definitely a shocker - in the best, most twisted way. Alexis feeling bad about Willow exoneration rings hollow considering the lengths she went to protect Kristina from a similar crime - stealing from a child, keeping Rick hostage, etc. Get over it! I do hope that Scout tells Alexis that it was Willow (again) who arranged the visit.

The writers really gave us some great stuff with the Drew shooting S/L. The story lost so much momentum when they basically inserted the Ronnie nothingburger, but, I gotta say since the trial start, we've had numerous excellent and compelling scenes - Portia and Willow's scenes on the stand were riveting Since they've made Drew absolutely relentless in his jerkness, perhaps Drew return to just a cad, instead of a royal pain, happens after he discovers/remembers that Willow shot him. CM deserves a lot of credit for absolutely playing this to the hilt - especially against some of those sanctimonious hypocritical characters. And, damn, if he isn't approaching 57(!) with that kind body.

It's hilarious how Taylor, Deke and Hope accept that Deacon is a changed man even though he stalked/terrorized and shot at Quinn multiple times - his most recent crimes - and, yet, Sheila is nonredeemable. One of the most frustrating aspects of B&B is that it's good/evil - there's no gray. Hope was good, until she betrayed the Forresters (Thomas and the takeover) and then she was pure evil, but now she's back to good. B&B is like The Simpsons of soaps. B&B characters never grow, change or evolve - they are literally the same - even if there's a short-term diversion - they revert to form. It's unlike any other soap where we see characters evolve over time. Oh and I do think RB/SK have great chemistry. While I would've preferred they simply created 'Aunt Taylee' for RB, she's actually made Taylor viable again.

We never saw them do the deed. He may have been buying her time for other reasons. I'm just sayin' the way he was on the stand and then the carefully worded convo with Jacinda at the bar gave me strong vibes that the story shifted. I do think they're going to give Michael/Jacinda a shot, which is why they had Nina actually being sympathetic to her a few weeks ago, the Kristina interactions, vibes, etc. I'm not opposed to it, but it's definitely not what was initially planned.

Ezra is: Jacinda's father.

Ha! That was a highlight. Interestingly, when Ezra was on the stand I got different vibes when Ezra - he's normally quite crass and it was far more subdued. When Jacinda/Ezra were talking and he said he's constituents would get over their relationship, I think it's something completely different - and a very typical GH trope. Ezra may be one of those midstream character changes that got first got clued when Ezra was actually civil and almost sympathetic to Laura before he went on the stand. Just sayin' - he may not be the bad guy now.

And neither Ridge/Steffy saying the obvious: this happened during the takeover by brother Carter + sl*t Hope, which Brooke 'went along' with. Honestly, isn't there a part of Steffy that's glad that LOGAN is not a FC trademark? The writing for Deke is appalling! I get kissing up to Katie, but being all understanding to his father? C'mon. There is no way any working class kid who was booted for a nepo wouldn't have a few choice words to say, especially since he's Deacon's son + the way the Forrester have always looked down on his father and sister. Deke would be completely justified in ripping them to his father privately.

That runway fantasy was a complete miss. We all know what's really going to happen when LOGAN's line debuts on the runway - Katie will have that long foreshadowed heart attack after she sees Brill in a compromising position - hopefully livestreamed with little to the imagination. We're overdue for a Brooke scandal and the pieces are falling into place: LOGAN, dredging up Katie's resentment, showing those hot Brill flashbacks, the out-of-the-blue Xmas peace with Steffy, which opens the door to the next major piece: Ridge, with Steffy's blessing, hands Brooke the co-CEO position so he can focus exclusively on designing after Eric gives his new designs to Katie. I just hope this develops over several months and not weeks.

It's a blessing and a curse. Blessing: B&B's ability to wrap a S/L that isn't working, erase it from the canvas and pivot to the next story is unparalleled in the modern soap world - Brooke's alleged drinking problem, Nicole wanting custody, etc. Curse: Exactly your point - plot driven, no real character evolution that sticks, etc. That said, I'll take LOGAN v FC fashion battle over anything we've been dished during the past 4 years. It's been awful. KKL is criminally underrated as an actor. When she's part of theses Emmy-bait scenes, KKL has this ability to be equally effective and present without attempting to out-act, out voice or one-up her scene partner. It's a rare skill. I actually thought today's dialogue with Katie explaining why she suppressed her resentment during the past decade was quite good. It's not a stretch that Brooke forbidding Katie from using LOGAN would cause it all to surface. For years we've been hearing how the Logans are underappreciated at FC and that they'll never be equals, etc. On the surface, you'd think Brooke would be proud that to have a fashion house named LOGAN. However, this proves what I've always believed - Brooke doesn't want the Logan name out there as a public reminder of her roots. As Katie pointed out, she's Brooke Forrester, it's Brooke's Bedroom, it's BeLieF, etc. She had decades to incorporate the Logan name into one of her lines, but chose not to.

The networks are actively touting the L+35 ratings for PrimeTime. The numbers are enlightening - demos are 2-5x higher than the Live+SD. Viewership tends to double. Based on what we've seen with DAYS/GH, I'd be shocked in the three CBS soaps aren't doing solid numbers on streaming. Soaps also offer streamers 52-week original content - no other scripted shows can do that.

I'm glad I started recording the day $B gifted 'LOGAN' to Katie. Honestly, this is the most interesting story Brad has developed in years. It's definitely a nod to the BeLieF ownership, which is hands down, B&B best storyline. KKL and HT have absolutely nailed it. KKL's delivery has been superb - it's very Stephanie like - cool, condensing with a hint of superiority. I could totally envision SF delivering KKL's lines in a similar manner except to Brooke. (Stephanie telling Brooke she can't do this and that - like the old days.) And, kudos to Brad having Katie go there with $B in an absolutely cutting way, especially the part about $B having faith in Katie's business acumen - both at FC and LOGAN. Wow! Now that's history-based drama that needs no retcon. It's unfortunate today's episode was littered with those offensive PSA scenes. Thank goodness for FF.

I thought BM might return for Xmas. Needless to say, I was disappointed she didn't even call out TGVN to Lily. On the plus side, the Lily/Traci scenes were done well. OC Nikki slithers back to the Ranch to collect whatever rare, collectable toy$ Victor got her. Gross.

Merry Christmas @soapfan770 !

Oh, Portia. I'll say having her on the stand to reveal all her sins was satisfying. Now, Trina, if you had just told your parents the truth about the destroyed evidence, all of that could've been avoided. OC, the writers how to do it that way for maximum impact. Willow's horrified look when Drew told Alexis that she wouldn't see Scout for the holidays. The next scene should've been Willow convincing Drew to let Scout see her family. While I like the softer side of Ava with her besties, I'd love to find out Ava is secretly working with Sonny to take down Sidwell, who seems quite smitten with her. Ava definitely would have motivation to protect Lucas.

Since I've returned to GH, I've only skipped three scenes - Brad/Britt - those two are horrible together. GH spent the past 6-8 weeks doing a pretty great job course correcting Britt, and then they put her in this garbage? Oh, and I just saw the clip where Brad, who was on duty, tried to blackmail Michael into sex. What? Could Stone Cold Michael please take out this trash permanently? Based on what little I've seen, no one could possible miss that character.

I'm waiting for BM to return so Traci can remind Victor that he has an Abbott heart.

I hope so! I'd be incredibly disappointed if Eric joins them. I could see Will joining his parents to create some sort of faux conflict with Electra. The holy grail for me: Ridge steps down as co-CEO to focus on designing + Brooke gets co-CEO with Steffy. Brooke really should be leading the company in some capacity.

I decided to watch today for the first time since Chance was unceremoniously tossed aside. I thought the costuming was refreshing and flattering on all the actors. The win goes to dressing Chelsea as a 50s dutiful housewife on the night she realizes Adam's loyalty to Victor will always win. There's no doubt that Graz is MS's best screen partner - even better than SC. The rapid fire way he spit those lines - basically saying everything the audience feels about Phyllis - in a humorous manner. In reality if anyone else said those lines, they'd come across as mean spirited. I am surprised at the chem between CK + BF. I absolutely didn't feel it in those early scenes, but there might be potential. Can Josh please stop writing Devon as such an absolute downer? When was the last time Devon had anything positive to say? We know Bryton can do so much more. EB was really struggling in this episode. I can't recall another time when his delivery of every single line was off. Eh, he's 84 and I respect that he still wants to work. Honestly, I'm grateful I can tune in to Y&R after a hiatus to see TGVN ruling the roost. As we all know, it won't always be this way.

What a weirdly worded spoiler for a married, monogamous couple. JMW's being wasted in this milquetoast version of Steffy. I actually put B&B back on streaming DVR because of the rival fashion house. I'm curious if this will actually stick or be done in 3 month. It seems like tomorrow is the day to start.

Brad is clearly on a mean streak because these characters are illogically acting hateful: Katie being marginalized because of Lunacy now. OC when Lunacy was arrested after caging FC co-CEO + committing two murders while she was a FC intern - it was OK. Bridge forcing Eric into retirement out of the blue - we're not talking about some business relationship - this Ridge's father and Steffy's grandfather and the father of two of Brooke's children. Really? The omitted spouse at Lope wedding. And why wouldn't the invited spouse fight for their inclusion? None of these make sense - not even #3. The audience is willing to accept plot-based drama if it leads to compelling stories, but this stuff isn't even good.

AW - Nancy Frangione. Susan Keith was perfectly fine, but Nancy took Cecile to a soaring heights. I was floored when the recast happened because I knew Nancy as boring Tara on AMC. But, gosh, if she didn't light up the entire show. My entire family loved Celice, including my dad and brother - who got hooked on the show because of her.

Repost from the spoiler thread: Dec 2023 - Eric is dying or not Dec 2024 - Eric's stapler is being taken away by Carter Dec 2025 - The Combo Remix! Eric's health is in question + Ridge wants to take away Eric's stapler You know, I hope this actually ends up being a legit story. B&B has been such a mess since Brad decided to have Sheila shoot Finn/Steffy - almost every S/L has been a complete thud. Soaps have slumps, but B&B being this off for this long is frankly shocking. I'm still following - not watching - the show in the hopes that it gets it right again.