Mitch64

Agreed, I think Blake became a woman who learned from her mistakes and grew up. I too wanted them to be the core couple after the Tori thing, as a matter of fact, around Wheeler after Simon left I wanted them to move into the Bauer house..( I would have Blake say that this is the closet thing she knew as a home )SORAS the kids, and bring Sam back..Dinah would have a very contentious relationship with her, as she would be jealous of Ross and Sam's relationship, and Blake and Dinah would have that tension (ya, know cause she killed his brother) it would be a core family that had some fissures leading to good drama. But now, Wheeler and company though the Coopers should be the core.

I think she was especially galled that once again, the story isn't about Reva, it's about Annie as it was during Watros time. Reva becomes a plot point and had no internal life or sparks things on he rown as she did pre resurrection. Reva is a plot point, and that really must have p*ssed Kimmer off. But she and RN have no one to blame but themselves as they insisted on being on almost everyday and when it was time for them to move on to being the B story for a bit. I have no doubt San Crud was meant to make her happy..two men chasing after Reva...and a whole set of new characters created just for her. But then Rassie hit and Kimmer was back with Jarsh. I love the Signy mentions the scene with Marj..they are both great there, and Marj finally gets a scene that works for her Alex (harder, louder then BevAlex...) Again, this woudl have worked better if Signy was just some nut sent to cause havoc for Annie..cause Signy does make a good "nut" as she says.

Where did Drew get the money for it?When you build a set that big, it costs a lot of money, not just to create it but putting it up and taking it down each time it is used...so they need to show all the characters using it. Which is why is was stupid to have all the young character talk about it being "Their" place...hold on to your hat, cause they are going to have Thanksgiving there! But its going to disappear as fast as ti came. I wanted Nola to build a club or just take over the Towers Club, and to it very Artdeco like an MGM musical...the wait staff dressed in retro clothes along with Nola. A running joke would be Nola forcing people to watch a song and dance performance "I'll only go if it past the time Nola sings!"

The infamous "SIT DOWN, Josh" that even RN made fun of in a Locher Room! The show is officially going off the rails when it could have gotten back on after the clone. Thanks for the synopsis...I forgot about that damn coin, which, spoiler alert, goes nowhere...(such sloppy writing from now on in..) And yes, how did Annie change her voice, her height, and actually lug a dead boy out of the morgue....(guess what...it doesn't matter cause it's really all stupid.) I do love the Millennium set.

LOL! Yes, and Jay could have turned the tables on him by walking by, doing the "ole switcheroo" and Brad would be doing the walk of shame the next morning by limping out of the manager's office!

Ha...and actually medium sized Central Illinois towns (which is what Oakdale had to be..a few hours from Chicago, with farm land surrounding it) did have "discos" ours was "Macon County Light Company" lol..so I can see one being there, but yes, just mentioned, or a special set for a sweeps event when someone is invariably shot. But yea, I can't believe they didn't have Lisa open one, but maybe I am imaging the entrepreneur of the year she became later with Melinda coming every night and Jay as her manger, no doubt doing drug deals and giving blow jobs in the parking lot. I can see sleazy Brad squishes around the place for sure. And for the special sweeps episodes, Joyce holding Lisa hostage...with Donna Sumer's "The Hostage" playing over and over.."Nancy "Oh dear, I told Lisa opening that dance hall would be nothing but trouble!"

That would have been interesting. I think they would have liked writing for a more community based show then a core family centric show like ATWT (which is why I never understood why Long failed at Search and went against type and created a new core family for the show..) and enjoyed writing the platonic matriarch patriarch couple of Jo and Stu. I remember how boring Alan was redeemed. But Marland pusses out all his males like Ross, who married the unsexy "Carrie Todd" and was running around in matching jogging suits and drinking veggie shakes.. Interesting the history of Amanda, I just remember her as Marland's sad wimpy victim...so their was a basis for Poser's "mean girl" Amanda from the Dobson era.

I know the Dobsons didn't want to take over ATWT, and in one way I can see that..if I wasn't writing one of the PG shows I would hate to take over an ABC show, or Days or the Bell shows. But ATWT was so close to GL and who wouldn't want a crack at what had become an American institution and Irna's baby? I think instead of using their projections for GL they just (unsuccessfully) copied their past storylines on GL...Brad/Dee/John from Ed/Holly/Roger (which is a shame as there was some real drama in having Dee in love with John, with his history with Dan/Kim.) and James/Babs from Alan/Hope..again, though James was a one note villain, who had any charm it came from AH. I think the real way to for the Dobsons would have been AW..which had always been a bit of a more psycho/sexual storyline then Apple Pie/core family ATWT. I do agree that the pressure was on them to make ATWT more ABC like, and since they had no real love for ATWT, they just did it and collected a paycheck while creating SB.

Haha..the only disco on earth that is a HOT spot at 5:30 p.m.

Yea, the Dobs did NOT move ATWT to the 1 spot. MAYBE it won its timeslot a couple of times. Compared to GL, their ATWT was a cartoon mess..more plot than nuanced characters like GL (Mr. Big anyone?) Bridget is a character who seemed to really live in her own head, and sees reality that way. I would love what she had to say about obscuring the Hughes family, especially Nancy and Chris. It's just interesting that they wrote the Bauers so well with Bert being the center of things. I would think they would like more conflicted matriarch like Nancy, who did not have the "good nature, discussing a spine of steel" that Charita played but was colder and more outwardly controlling. Also she wrote Mike and Ed so well, and on ATWT she had two brothers with Bob being the galant one and Don being the more conflicted one. It woudl hav been interesting if they leaned into Nancy being controlling and her adult children pulling away from her a bit so she softens ( or as Marland retro wrote..give her menopause (was she too old for that). Love to hear the backstage movements going on at the that time.

I can see why they moved them over to ATWT, but something was off...they just didn't work and even their second run, which was better and created Tom and Margo and Steve and Betsy was not as sophisticated as GL and they totally blew up the Hughes family. I would love to read an interview with them with their take on that time.

Would he would appreciate it if I wrote to him that in his Apollo day...also when he played the headhunting native on Gilligan's Island...I kid you not.. he was a real piece of a**!!! : ) He worked continuously..and he must have been pretty gay friendly as he played a bisexual biker in a bad movie (with a hilariously cliched campy sidekick) and in on weird Italian movie where he played a guy who continuously broke in on this guy and basically raped him..and by the third time the guy was loving it!! And this was what passed as and Italian sex comedy! It was too bad the Dobson's wrote Nick so badly..he was a chauvinistic ass who was always angry. He and Hayes had good chemistry and they were popular, but as soon as they got married they got the Nancy and Chris treatment and were rarely seen.

Wagner said he started to fail as soon as they put him on recurring, and then silently just fired him. I mean really Bunim, how much could he have cost to just keep the patriarch on? "Chris, what IS that thumping sound coming from across town? Now it seems to me that is against the Oakdale Noise Ordinance, which as you recall, was put into effect when our Lisa was ...uh, entertaining her MANY gentleman callers after 10 p.m.?"

Well that and the disco crowd was going hot and heavy like a coke fueled night at 4 a.m. at Studio 54, while across town at Nancy and Chris its early evening and dinner time. I do love that they tried to "be hip" and still keep Nancy and Chris.

Oh I agree that Miner had a whiny voice, (and I know people get mad at dissing a child actor but I could not stand the toothy Maura who was so cutesy pie MY teeth hurt during her scenes. ) and I can see both sides...I know that she would have not have been able to carry a romantic storyline, so I can see why they recast, but she was the actress there during the Maureen death so I can see an audience being boned with the actress. I just dont think Budig was the correct recast, she was way too blond and cheerleader and the writing did not help (ie. SlutChelle...the girl was into screwing her cousin before Jammy ever came along..granted not bio cousin...) Her Chele was a typical suburban princess. I think Lenz hit the mark as a Chelle bioparented by the edgy Ed and Claire, but raised by Maureen. But as you say, by the time Lenz came along they cemented her in the mob, she had no dad on canvas, MS was sick so Meta wasnt around much.