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Especially since GA was in his late 30s early 40s around the time Rauch took over. Having Phillip and Rick acting almost as if they were in their 2os was silly. I would have Annie actually mistakenly kill Alan (or maybe not so..maybe she starts poisoning him I would have him getting bored of her instead of carrying her purse of evil deeds all day long) and then Phillip is forced into Spaulding patriarch, putting a crimp in his and Harleys relationship, brining both Amanda and AM back...with occasional visits from Alex to run interference, or cause trouble (Marj/Alex isn't bad when in small doses.) Someone up thread mentioned Mike's women..does anyone remember when Reva first hit town she was flirting with Mike? I remember her in a big fur coat sitting on his desk...(why...was he lawyer to her to get a divorce from Billy?) I just watched some of the 60th anniversary episodes..and Reva is just walking away from yet another argument with Annie, and she closes paths with Lillian and Mike walking by, and she looks surprised and quickly waves. I wonder if that was Kimmer remembering that she knew him, etc (Kimmer looks great during the anniversary episodes I must say.) Speaking of this time period, I know Rauch in in place, and McTavish was fired before Liabson, but the material seems to still be McTavish outline going into the anniversary..with the angel etc. I wonder if she outlined the Amanda is Brandon's kid or if that was a Rauch/interim writer thing...it seems all McTavish's style.
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Lizzie being inspired by her glamorous grandmother's career as a not starving artist would be great, and connect with Beth's former artist ambitions which were forgotten when Rauch and team brought her back as a screwed up stuck up mean girl. I would have thrown in Marina at that time who was played by Aubrey and was wasted. I would have Lizzie being a Morgan type and Marian being a Nola ( I would even have her live in Nola's old room, "A girl who lived here before carved initials N.R. + K.N..who stupid and silly, she probalby love it here in this dump!") Marina wanting a Spaulding lifestyle and Lizzie wanting to follow a artist career path. I know what you mean about joining Spaulding, but I love the "Ex Wives Club" as a highlight of the post Curlee years. Maybe India made it her goal to befriend "Phil-eppes" mother and Elizabeth signs over her stock to India to be a thorn in Alan's side and to f*ck with Liv.
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I LOVE this! Totally agree and that was my first thought when Joan/Alex appeared..and I LOVED Joan/Alex but I knew she wouldn't stay long. Plus they could have pumped up her return as yet another mother gone to Europe for years who were estranged from her kid. I would have had Elizabeth paying off a long time Spaulding staffer to keep her updated on things, and hearing that Lizzie was lost between her parents drama and when Alan faked his hear attack she did the same thing Alex did, report it drop the stock and buy it all up to come back and kick Alan. It would also be a good way to bring a recast Mike back..he and she were a couple again.
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Actually, I have to say, Long had Bert mention Simone when Bill died..as in "Oh, I need talk to Simone, this will be so hard on her,' and Meta was mentioned a few times, (mainly when Charita was ill, she was visiting Meta and Mo went to visit them and came back with "Bert is great, but Ed she lost some weight so don't be suprised," ) mainly to prepare us for her return after her amputation. And of course, after Charita died Bert took care of an ailing Meta off camera. Its weird, (and I know others disagree) but Long and company I felt did a great job at respecting history and bringing thoughtful things like this in, what went wrong in 85?
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I remember the little red headed girl who played Christina played her like a brat...she was manipulating Rita into Evil Step Mom mold, and when Rita told her to set the table or something , she threw the napkins down in a fit...so Blake was always going to be trouble! I also remember that was the time that "Freddie" was at boarding school (mooing over Phillip???) so it doesn't make it like they grew up that much together so the the drunk screw is less..icky.
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I'm neither here nor there on Dano...but I am thinking like they should have...if Dano likes Wheeler and is willing to work for the GL cash for fun..why not have her do somehting of importance..."Linda Dano joins Gl as a mysterious woman who may know..."Who shot Phillip" or some such thing. It has been so long that viewers wouldn't remember Elizabeth that well and she has been away for years..."I know what it is like, what that man does to you..breaks you..hallows you out until you have to escape to another world (haha) to escape him. I did that, and it took me a long time to find my strength, and my son, you will too. Until you can fight, I will for you." or some such soap nonsense. There is always a hint that Elizabeth is not quite right still, but she has a backbone.
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Dorothy Lyman was on GL for the last few months? Was it like Linda Dana who played Harley's cell mate that who did it favor of Wheeler and to keep her union insurance ? Speaking of..I wish they had brought Dano back as Elizabeth Spaulding at that time. In my scenario it would have been an alter of Beth shot Phillip (to protect Harley who she thought was being attacked by Phillip, it was the same alter that killed Professor Rayburn that Beth created after the Bradly rape) Alan would think that Harley did indeed kill him, so instead of framing her in his mind he was seeing justice was done.) Elizabeth somehow had the docs declare Phillip dead and sent him to be cremated(or so everyone thought) and then brought him to her estate for him to get well and to protect from Alan (who SHE think is the shooter.) Anyway I think Dana could play a woman who waws previously a victim and who is a bit...still nutty herself.
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I don't know...we accepted Alexandra as a never before heard from sister...I know at her intro she was estranged but all the drama around Brandon's death and will and she was never mentioned. I think a branch of the Bauer family was acceptable...but Johnny was just so damn dull! I always wanted ATWT to bring on Chris Hughes brothers grandkids, this would have worked well during the Dobsons efforts to "contemporize" the show...I could see a farm girl moving in with Nancy and Chris and Nancy having another Lisa on her hands!
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It's odd, as Long got rid of Bea Reardon (who just disappeared) and brought on Jack and Lainie who along with Hawk and Sarah..ran the boardinghouse. They were first on recurring and then offered contracts as if they thought of a story to get them involved..yet they didn't do anything. I like the idea of an older stable Bauer couple, and am okay with Faux Bauers...though I would have said that Meta raised Johnny and sibs after their parents died, giving a connection to history. We know why Hawk and Sarah had material as tehy had to prop up Reva..but what made Long create this couple?
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For Meta definatley Teri Keane who was brought in to fill a Bert role as Johnny's mom but got nothing to do. I think she seems someone from a blue collar background who could also feel comfortable at the Country Club, and the thing I liked about Stuart's Meta is that she was supportive but could tell she was tough cookie (her scene in the kitchen with Claire is classsic.) which Keane could do. Also I guess I just remember her as a preschooler on the Edge, and she always seemed stable and calm but could lay someone out. I do think that Audrey Peters would have been good as well (despite their resembelance, I never bought her as Reva's mom. Speaking of Reva, as others said, her best material post resurection was under Wheeler. That was the Reva that seemed to connect with Long's Reva..she seemed tired but still had fight in her, was loving but also self centered...and you could see that she had a life loving men, sex, food and well, lets be honest..booze, with no apologies.
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I always thought they should have brought him back for Bert's memorial, (well, there were a lot of people they should have brought back) especially as Rick was going through his drug phase...have him point out to a clueless Ed that something was going on with Rick.."While you spend your time worrying about this Claire woman, Rick is falling apart. But I still wish they had brought back Meta at that time, have her take over the boardinghouse for Bea as a favor to Mo, and stick around to tangle with Claire and set the young people in town straight.
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Agree, but since MH was the Ed I saw until high school, he is kind of "my Ed." The 70th anniversary show, where they brought back Don Stewart would have been the perfect time to bring him back, and try to keep him there. With the fallout about Rick's paternity of one of Blake's kids, with Ed being stuck in the middle of Rick and Ross, (and his "step daughter" ) and references to Ed finding out Blake was Rogers, the storyline would have more depth to it then the "shock" value it was played. Of course, if we are dreaming, having him in place if they went through with a " Roger has ALS" would have really been interesting. I think Simon had some energy early on...Long played him as a nice guy dad who had some edginess, and he had chemistry with Parker. It was just as the years went on Simon made Ed a cold fish... I know they did try to get MH back but I don't know how hard they tried.
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Yes.... I think Toby played older and was supposed to be in her 30s...(I always someone like Alex to comment on Amanda Alex: "Well, California must have been good to you, you havent aged a day," Amanda, "Its the California sun" Alex: "Well, this Dr. Sun does excellent work dear!" They have Amanda refer to Phillip as her "little brother" just so we know. Its kind of like Deas not being that much older then Frankie D, or on ATWT Lyla actress being a few years older then Colin, its just one of those things soap viewers accept.
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Maybe its the script writer who seemed to understand Alex...there are some great lines here that are true to her history "I have dealt with far WORSE then YOU!" and "Everytime my brother and I competed I WON!" E &B don't seem to know what to do with Alex, as she just disappears after this (Marj jumped to AMC as she had no filming dates scheduled.) It is too bad as this as this is an Alex which fits Marj's energy(Bev's Alex would cooly insult and threaten Annie) and still fits Alex's history..I will always love "Ya got quite a bark on ya, don't ya honey?" Yes Ed not being there is just dumb...I really don't think the role would be that hard to cast...but the whole thing is dumb...the Santos are members of the Lakeland Country Club and have been all the time but no one know them?
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