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Dynasty Discussion Thread
I agree with your take on Season 3 so far. Episode 8 is one of the best of the seasons. When Alexis calls McVane, "You miserable scum," I smile every time - just as Joan was doing. I thought it was such an interesting choice to deliver the line that way. And Mark was glorious eye candy for 2 seasons. His character had definitely outlived its usefulness early in Season 4 but his body never stopped!
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Dynasty Discussion Thread
I think it's during the commentary on the Season 1 DVD (that I bought in...Lord knows when - 2005?!) where either the Shapiros or the Pollocks said that the first season hadn't done as well as the network had wanted. So they did focus groups and the biggest thing they discovered was that no one cared about the middle-class family. They wanted to "see what was going on behind the doors of that mansion!" So they changed the show and, people will always debate its quality, but between that change and the addition of Joan Collins, the show became a hit.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Wow - I loved the Cabot baby storyline. Then again, Cady McClain and Hunt Block are two of my favorite soap actors. Thought it was a fantastic storyline. Had me tuning in every day to find out what would happen next. I've said it before and I'll say it again, just what do people on this message board LIKE about As The World Turns. Because it seems like you all hate it - not just the Sheffer/Goutman era, but most of Doug Marland's era. So again, what do you like about ATWT. Favorite moments. Storylines. Characters. Do you even have any? (Besides the quadruplets who were on for about 4 months.)
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Dynasty Discussion Thread
So interesting to read everyone's thoughts. I enjoy the realism of Season 1 but Matthew and the always-sobbing-teenage-girl make it difficult for me to watch it often. Other than the above mention Krystle twin plot, I enjoy all the rest of the show. It's final season written by David Paulsen, is one of its best so it goes out on a high, imo. Am in a rewatch in Season 5 and it's perfection as far as I'm concerned. Ali McGraw, Rock Hudson, Diahann Carroll, the clothes, the hair, the caviar, Catherine Oxenberg and Michael Praed as the Charles and Diana of Denver/Moldavia. Alexis just sitting around flipping through a magazine drinking champagne. Pure Gold!! There's a reason this season was #1 and became a huge hit in Europe at the same time. Looking forward to The Colbys. Charlton Heston, Emma Samms, Maxwell Caufield, Stephanie Beach, Ricardo Montalban, Babara Stanwyck, more clothes, more hair, more over-the-top drama! Plus, Dynasty gets Christopher Casanova and Kate O'Mara. I watch this show over and over and over. When I finish the miniseries, I just start back again at the beginning. All hail the fabulousness that is Dynasty!!!!!!
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Falcon Crest
Just got to Season 7. I've seen 5 episodes so far and for once, I agree with what most people on this message board have said. The show is clearly past its expiration date. Sticking with it for now. Why the heck is everyone going to Nevada? Are we gonna spend most of the season there instead of the Tuscany Valley?
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
'Tis true. I've halfway through the last 15 years of the show and am enjoying the hell out of it! Bryant's death was all last week and it was one of the most heartbreaking and wonderfully acted week of any soap opera ever. I remember someone on here saying that "watching Hunt Block attempt to cry was painful." Um...you should watch those episodes again. Dude has tears running down his cheeks or pooled under his eyes throughout. But complainers gonna complain.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
WTF is wrong with you people? Can you not just enjoy a show? Seriously. Like...it's just a soap opera. That ran for over 50 years. What it would take to get y'all to stop complaining about the tiniest minute little details. Yes...I just found out a good friend had her husband leave her and her baby. So I'm taking out my aggression here. But, good God, people. Just watch what you like and let the rest go!!!
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Can someone explain to me...if the legacy characters of Lucy, Bryant, Katie, etc. are so disliked, not to mention Craig and Dani upon return...why is there an expectation that with the same writers and casting directors, the quads would be liked any better?
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
This is exactly what I'm talking about. They were born and then disappeared almost immediately. What is the fascination with them? What is the hold these barely-were-ever-on-screen-babies have over ATWT (I'm assuming early) fandom? They just get brought up so much, you'd think the characters were on the canvas for years like Bryant, Lucy, Katie, Jennifer, Will, Chris, Adam and Casey.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Neither of the actors who played Eddie and Georgia were very good either. And they were both thrown into the show full-throttle. I'll never understand people expecting the Ward quads to return. That was a ridiculous storyline - quadruplets?! - and that's just too many characters with no connection to really anyone unless you bring their parents back, and was too long ago after barely being a part of the show. But I know that we, as fans, have dreams and want what we want. And everyone has their different thing.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
I highly enjoyed late '98/'99. David Stenbeck 2&3 were both great but #3 was my fave. He was just creepy (and yet sexy) as hell. I also couldn't stand Eddie and Georgia. You don't have much left of either of them. I did enjoy the late '99/early '00 Chris. I think he was the best out of the lot. (Not that that's saying much. Chris was always cast as "bland handsome white guy" to me.) Katie's story arc is one of my faves from all of daytime. Henry as well. From where they began to where they ended up was a treat for me. I so wish Cassandra Creech could've stayed around longer. Denise was another character with a great redemption story arc. I'm in Aug '01 right now. It's dynamite. I can see why they won the Emmy for that year.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Wow - thank you so very much for providing us with this. I can't wait to dive into them!!
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Ryan's Hope Discussion Thread
I don't think I've ever heard a negative word about Rae Woodard before. I didn't enjoy her character when she first came on but I quickly warmed to her and thought she took the show to a new level of greatness. The character was a nice contrast to the Ryans. Also, HAPPY 50TH BIRTHDAY TO RYAN'S HOPE! Premiered 50 years ago today!
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
As I'm also an actor in NYC, I've run into many person from the soaps. I've chatted with Rosemary Prinz a couple of times - this would've been the late '00s. I got the impression she wasn't particularly interested in ever returning to ATWT. So that's another point to be made. We have no idea how many people were asked to return but said, "No thank you," without the "thank you." Not many actors are as gracious as Julianne Moore. I live in New York. I don't know if you're in the surrounding area but, if so, I've get this amazing bridge up for sale. Send me a PM.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
I'm up to late June 2001. Damian has convinced Holden and Luke are dead, meanwhile, he's kidnapped them to Malta. At their memorial service, returnees include, Iva, Seth, Caleb, and Cal. I don't buy the line that Goutman/Scheffer didn't care about history. I remember that Duncan comes back when Bonnie gets the worst case of SORAS since Tom Hughes in the '60s. It seems clear that the reason older vets weren't brought back in later years only had to do with the budget, or lack thereof. We've seen so many Alan Locher episodes with the producers and writers of various soaps who all talk about how they were doing the best they could with half the budget they used to have. Too bad the soap opera community can't put blame where blame is due: Proctor and Gamble. They wanted out of the soap opera business and gave less and less money to their remaining soaps in order to help them tank.