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This past Thursday (March 27) was the 25th anniversary of the premiere of Generations. NBC aired Generations at 12:30 pm ET, taking the time slot from Scrabble, which was moved to 10 am and replaced Sale of the Century. This would bring NBC's daytime lineup to four dramas (Generations, Days of our Lives, Another World, Santa Barbara) and four game shows (Scrabble, Classic Concentration, Wheel of Fortune, Win Lose or Draw).

What about roles actors declined? Some I've heard over the years: Bill Bell offered Gregg Marx a role on Y&R shortly after Gregg left As the World Turns, but the role was turned down. I'm thinking the character was Dr. Steven Lassiter, but not 100% certain on that. Terry Lester was offered Buzz Cooper on Guiding Light but turned that role down to take Royce Keller on As the World Turns. Marcy Walker was offered a role on B&B in 1993 but turned that role down to take Tangie Hill on Guiding Light. I'm thinking the B&B role was a recast Kristen Forrester, but again not 100% certain. Kimberlin Brown turned down Amanda Spaulding on Guiding Light and instead returned to B&B in the fall of 1995. Michelle Stafford turned down the recast Annie Dutton on Guiding Light that later went to Signy Coleman.

A look back at GL actors at the Daytime Emmys. Winners 1984: Judi Evans (Supporting Actress) 1985: Kim Zimmer (Lead Actress), Larry Gates (Supporting Actor) 1987: Kim Zimmer (Lead Actress) 1990: Kim Zimmer (Lead Actress) 1991: Rick Hearst (Younger Actor) 1992: Maeve Kinkead (Supporting Actress) 1993: Ellen Parker (Supporting Actress), Monti Sharp (Younger Actor) 1994: Michael Zaslow (Lead Actor), Justin Deas (Supporting Actor), Melissa Hayden (Younger Actress) 1995: Justin Deas (Lead Actor), Jerry ver Dorn (Supporting Actor) 1996: Jerry ver Dorn (Supporting Actor), Kevin Mambo (Younger Actor) 1997: Justin Deas (Lead Actor), Kevin Mambo (Younger Actor) 1998: Cynthia Watros (Lead Actress) 2002: Crystal Chappell (Supporting Actress) 2003: Jordi Vilasuso (Younger Actor) 2006: Kim Zimmer (Lead Actress), Jordan Clarke (Supporting Actor), Gina Tognoni (Supporting Actress), Tom Pelphrey (Younger Actor) 2008: Gina Tognoni (Supporting Actress), Tom Pelphrey (Younger Actor) 2009: Jeff Branson (Supporting Actor) Nominees 1985: Maeve Kinkead (Supporting Actress), Michael O'Leary (Younger Actor) 1986: Kim Zimmer (Lead Actress), Vincent Irizarry (Younger Actor) 1987: Krista Tesreau (Younger Actress) 1988: Maeve Kinkead (Supporting Actress) 1990: Jerry ver Dorn (Supporting Actor), Michelle Forbes (Supporting Actress), Bryan Buffington (Younger Actor) 1991: William Roerick (Supporting Actor), Jerry ver Dorn (Supporting Actor), Maureen Garrett (Supporting Actress), Bryan Buffington (Younger Actor), Ashley Peldon (Younger Actress) 1992: Michael Zaslow (Lead Actor), Rick Hearst (Supporting Actor), Jerry ver Dorn (Supporting Actor), Maureen Garrett (Supporting Actress), Jeff Phillips (Younger Actor), Beth Ehlers (Younger Actress) 1993: Mark Derwin (Lead Actor), Michael Zaslow (Lead Actor), Maeve Kinkead (Lead Actress), Rick Hearst (Supporting Actor), Bryan Buffington (Younger Actor), Beth Ehlers (Younger Actress), Melissa Hayden (Younger Actress) 1994: Peter Simon (Lead Actor), Fiona Hutchison (Lead Actress), Jerry ver Dorn (Supporting Actor), Hillary Edson (Supporting Actress), Maureen Garrett (Supporting Actress), Bryan Buffington (Younger Actor), Monti Sharp (Younger Actor), Melina Kanakaredes (Younger Actress) 1995: Michael Zaslow (Lead Actor), Marj Dusay (Lead Actress), Maeve Kinkead (Lead Actress), Rick Hearst (Supporting Actor), Jean Carol (Supporting Actress), Melina Kanakaredes (Supporting Actress), Bryan Buffington (Younger Actor), Rachel Miner (Younger Actress) 1996: Kimberly J. Brown (Younger Actress) 1998: Kim Zimmer (Lead Actress), Grant Aleksander (Supporting Actor), Amy Ecklund (Supporting Actress), Kevin Mambo (Younger Actor) 1999: Kim Zimmer (Lead Actress), Jerry ver Dorn (Supporting Actor), Beth Ehlers (Supporting Actress) 2002: Robert Newman (Lead Actor), Beth Ehlers (Supporting Actress), Jordi Vilasuso (Younger Actor), Jessica Jimenez (Younger Actress), Lindsey McKeon (Younger Actress) 2003: Grant Aleksander (Lead Actor), Ricky Paull Goldin (Lead Actor), Kim Zimmer (Lead Actress), Ron Raines (Supporting Actor), Paul Anthony Stewart (Supporting Actor), Lindsey McKeon (Younger Actress) 2004: Grant Aleksander (Lead Actor), Kim Zimmer (Lead Actress), Ron Raines (Supporting Actor) 2005: Grant Aleksander (Lead Actor), Kim Zimmer (Lead Actress), Justin Deas (Supporting Actor), Crystal Chappell (Supporting Actress), Tom Pelphrey (Younger Actor), Crystal Hunt (Younger Actress) 2006: Robert Newman (Lead Actor), Ron Raines (Lead Actor), Beth Ehlers (Lead Actress), Crystal Chappell (Supporting Actress), Mandy Bruno (Younger Actress) 2007: Ricky Paull Goldin (Lead Actor), Crystal Chappell (Lead Actress), Kim Zimmer (Lead Actress), Gina Tognoni (Supporting Actress), Tom Pelphrey (Younger Actor), Stephanie Gatschet (Younger Actress) 2008: Crystal Chappell (Lead Actress), Nicole Forester (Lead Actress), Daniel Cosgrove (Supporting Actor) 2009: Daniel Cosgrove (Lead Actor), E.J. Bonilla (Younger Actor) 2010: Crystal Chappell (Lead Actress), Beth Chamberlin (Supporting Actress), Zack Conroy (Younger Actor)

A look back at ATWT actors at the Daytime Emmys. Winners 1984: Larry Bryggman (Lead Actor), Justin Deas (Supporting Actor) 1985: Brian Bloom (Younger Actor) 1986: John Wesley Shipp (Supporting Actor) 1987: Larry Bryggman (Lead Actor), Gregg Marx (Supporting Actor), Martha Byrne (Younger Actress) 1988: Julianne Moore (Younger Actress) 1990: Andrew Kavovit (Younger Actor) 2001: Martha Byrne (Lead Actress), Lesli Kay (Supporting Actress) 2003: Benjamin Hendrickson (Supporting Actor) 2004: Cady McClain (Supporting Actress) 2006: Jennifer Landon (Younger Actress) 2007: Maura West (Lead Actress), Jennifer Landon (Younger Actress) 2008: Jennifer Landon (Younger Actress) 2010: Michael Park (Lead Actor), Maura West (Lead Actress), Julie Pinson (Supporting Actress) 2011: Michael Park (Lead Actor) Nominees 1981: Larry Bryggman (Lead Actor), Henderson Forsythe (Lead Actor), Justin Deas (Supporting Actor) 1982: Larry Bryggman (Lead Actor) 1985: Larry Bryggman (Lead Actor) 1986: Scott Bryce (Lead Actor), Larry Bryggman (Lead Actor), Elizabeth Hubbard (Lead Actress), Gregg Marx (Supporting Actor), Kathleen Widdoes (Supporting Actress), Brian Bloom (Younger Actor), Jon Hensley (Younger Actor), Martha Byrne (Younger Actress) 1987: Scott Bryce (Lead Actor), Elizabeth Hubbard (Lead Actress), Lisa Brown (Supporting Actress), Kathleen Widdoes (Supporting Actress), Brian Bloom (Younger Actor), Jon Hensley (Younger Actor) 1988: Larry Bryggmann (Lead Actor), Elizabeth Hubbard (Lead Actress), Lisa Brown (Supporting Actress), Eileen Fulton (Supporting Actress), Scott DeFreitas (Younger Actor), Andrew Kavovit (Younger Actor) 1989: Larry Bryggman (Lead Actor), Elizabeth Hubbard (Lead Actress), Andrew Kavovit (Younger Actor), Martha Byrne (Younger Actress) 1990: Elizabeth Hubbard (Lead Actress) 1991: Elizabeth Hubbard (Lead Actress), Kathleen Widdoes (Supporting Actress), Andrew Kavovit (Younger Actor) 1992: Elizabeth Hubbard (Lead Actress), Scott DeFreitas (Younger Actor) 1993: Ellen Dolan (Lead Actress) 1994: Kathleen Widdoes (Lead Actress), Patrick Tovatt (Supporting Actor), Scott DeFreitas (Younger Actor), Martha Byrne (Younger Actress) 1995: Jason Biggs (Younger Actor) 1996: Martha Byrne (Younger Actress) 1999: Elizabeth Hubbard (Lead Actress) 2001: Tom Eplin (Lead Actor), Jon Hensley (Lead Actor), Hunt Block (Supporting Actor), Benjamin Hendrickson (Supporting Actor), Michael Park (Supporting Actor), Maura West (Supporting Actress), Colleen Zenk (Supporting Actress), Paul Taylor (Younger Actor), Terri Conn (Younger Actress), Annie Parisse (Younger Actress), Kristina Sisco (Younger Actress) 2002: Hunt Block (Lead Actor), Martha Byrne (Lead Actress), Colleen Zenk (Lead Actress), Benjamin Hendrickson (Supporting Actor), Paul Leyden (Supporting Actor), Kelley Menighan Hensley (Supporting Actress), Maura West (Supporting Actress), Kristina Sisco (Younger Actress) 2003: Cady McClain (Supporting Actress) 2004: Maura West (Lead Actress), Agim Kaba (Younger Actor) 2005: Roger Howard (Lead Actor), Martha Byrne (Lead Actress), Jennifer Ferrin (Younger Actress) 2006: Trent Dawson (Supporting Actor), Grayson McCouch (Supporting Actor), Jennifer Ferrin (Supporting Actress), Jesse Soffer (Younger Actor) 2007: Michael Park (Lead Actor), Trent Dawson (Supporting Actor), Van Hansis (Younger Actor), Jesse Soffer (Younger Actor), Alexandra Chando (Younger Actress) 2008: Maura West (Lead Actress), Trent Dawson (Supporting Actor), Kelley Menighan Hensley (Supporting Actress), Van Hansis (Younger Actor), Jesse Soffer (Younger Actor), 2009: Maura West (Lead Actress), Van Hansis (Supporting Actor), Meredith Hagner (Younger Actress) 2010: Marnie Schulenberg (Younger Actress) 2011: Colleen Zenk (Lead Actress), Julie Pinson (Supporting Actress)

So was Stephen Nichols CBS's first choice for Tucker then? I don't know how true this is, but I remember seeing on another board that Ron Raines was also a candidate for Tucker. Somehow I couldn't picture him as Jeanne Cooper's son.

Scattergories was hosted by the late Dick Clark. AFAIK, it was his last time as a game show host.

20 years ago today (January 15, 1993), NBC aired the final episode of Santa Barbara. The following Monday, NBC returned Scrabble to the daytime lineup and premiered Scattergories. Both game shows would end a little less than 5 months later on June 11, with Caesar's Challenge replacing Scattergories on June 14.

Kylie Minogue has had more success in recent years on the Billboard Dance Chart: Red Blooded Woman (2004): #24 I Believe in You (2004): #3 Wow (2008): #19 All I See (2008): #3 All the Lovers (2010): #1 Get Outta My Way (2010): #1 Better Than Today (2010): #1 Put Your Hands Up (If You Feel Love) (2011): #1

Kylie Minogue on the Billboard Hot 100: I Should Be So Lucky (1988): #28/#10 Dance The Loco-Motion (1988): #3/#12 Dance It's No Secret (1988): #37 Can't Get You Out of My Head (2002): #7/#1 Dance Love at First Sight (2002): #23/#1 Dance Come in to My World (2002): #91/#20 Dance Slow (2003): #91/#1 Dance

Madonna's top 10 hits on the Hot 100 since 2000: Music (2000): #1 Don't Tell Me (2000): #4 Die Another Day (2002): #8 Hung Up (2005): #7 4 Minutes (2008): #3 It's going on 12 years since her last #1 on the Hot 100, and 4 years since her last top 5 hit.

30 years ago (March 26, 1982) was the final CBS broadcast of Search for Tomorrow. The following Monday (March 29), Search for Tomorrow premiered on NBC at 12:30 pm ET, where it remained until the final episode on December 26, 1986.

30 years ago (March 26, 1982), CBS premiered Capitol as a prime time special. The following Monday (March 29) was the daytime premiere at 2:30 pm ET, the time slot previously occupied by Search for Tomorrow.

25 years ago (March 20, 1987) CBS aired the final episode of Capitol. The following Monday, CBS premiered Bill Bell's 2nd daytime drama The Bold and the Beautiful at 1:30 pm ET and gave a new time slot to As the World Turns, 2 pm ET. Of note is that CBS would go 22 1/2 years before cancelling a daytime drama, but would end two of them a year apart.

I don`t know how true this is, but I`ve read that James Reilly wanted Melissa Reeves for Sheridan Crane.

25 years ago today (December 26, 1986), NBC aired the final episode of Search for Tomorrow. The following Monday (December 29, 1986), NBC aired a new game show, Wordplay. Also of note is that Capitol, CBS's replacement for Search for Tomorrow, would end a little less than 3 months later (March 20, 1987) to make way for Bill Bell's 2nd daytime drama The Bold and the Beautiful, and NBC would end Wordplay a little over 8 months later (September 4, 1987) and move Scrabble into the 12:30 pm ET timeslot, where it remained until the premiere of Generations in March 1989.

A couple of things to consider. When CBS cancelled Family Feud Challenge in September 1993, the 10 am ET time slot was given back to the affiliates. Not long after that, several CBS affiliates moved Guiding Light from 3 pm to 10 am. Also, in the fall of 1994, CBS lost the broadcasting rights to the NFL to Fox and several CBS stations in major markets switched to Fox (more info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_affiliate_switches_of_1994 ); I'm not certain how the affiliate switches affected CBS Daytime though.

Thirty years ago today (June 8, 1981), CBS moved Search for Tomorrow from 12:30 pm ET to 2:30 pm ET. CBS also moved Y&R to 12:30 pm ET, making it the lead-in to it's daytime drama block, and As the World Turns to 1:30 pm ET.

Maria Arena Bell seems to have modeled Y&R's Adam Newman after Adam Carrington, and it looks like the rest of the Newmans over the last couple years after Dynasty circa 1982-1985, ie. Victor/Blake, Nikki/Alexis, Ashley/Krystle, Victoria/Fallon, Nicholas/Steven, Abby/Amanda, JT (whose full name is Jeffrey Todd)/Jeff, Phyllis/Sammy Jo, Sharon/Claudia. Also Bill Bell named Sally Spectra's first husband/Macy's father on B&B Adam Alexander. As we all know, Adam Carrington's middle name was Alexander. Maybe the Bells were fans of Dynasty back in the day.

I remember the classic primetime soaps of the 1980s: Dallas, Knots Landing, Dynasty, Falcon Crest. They all started to go downhill after 1985 though. I enjoyed some of the short-lived soaps of the 1990s/2000s as well: Models Inc, Central Park West, Pacific Palisades, Titans.

Sorry to bump up an old thread, but I'm surprised the 90210 thread has more activity than the Melrose thread. The best years of Melrose were 1993-1995. While the show started slow (basically a twentysomething 90210), it really picked up midway through the 1st season when Heather Locklear joined the cast, and the jump the shark moment was when Kimberly blew up the building at the end of the 3rd season, which reminded me alot of Dynasty's JTS moment 10 years earlier, the Moldavian Massacre. Seasons 4 and 5 were the decline and after a good chunk of the original cast left after the 5th season, the show became unwatchable.

The best years of 90210 were 1991-1994. While the show started slow, it really picked up midway through the 1st season with the Brenda/Dylan pairing, and the jump the shark moment was when Shannen Doherty was written off after the fourth season. Instead of recasting Brenda, the writers created a replacement character in Valerie, and she was no Brenda, that's for sure. Aaron Spelling learned his lesson 10 years earlier when Emma Samms replaced Pamela Sue Martin as Fallon on Dynasty and there were alot of fans who felt that was a JTS moment for that show and he probably didn't want to make the same mistake again. Seasons 5-8 were the decline and after Jason Priestly left in the beginning of the 9th season, the original premise of the show, a midwestern family adjusting to life in Beverly Hills, was gone and thus became pointless to watch until the last episode.

Thirty years ago today (February 1, 1980), CBS aired the final episodes of both Love of Life and Beat the Clock. The following Monday (February 4, 1980), Y&R expanded to 1 hour and was given a new timeslot, 1 pm ET. CBS also gave new timeslots to As the World Turns, 2 pm ET, and Guiding Light, 3 pm ET.

I didn't see a thread for Capitol so I decided to start one. CBS premiered Capitol as a prime time special on Friday March 26, 1982, and the daytime premiere was three days later in the timeslot previously occupied by CBS's then-longest running daytime drama Search for Tomorrow. Capitol was best described as Dallas meets the Reagan administration, with its Washington DC political backdrop combined with the glitz and glamour that characterized CBS's biggest primetime drama. Despite being middle of the pack ratings-wise during it's run, Capitol ended a little less than 5 years later on Friday March 20, 1987, and three days later CBS premiered Bill Bell's 2nd show The Bold and the Beautiful. I feel Capitol went on the air so CBS could draw a younger audience to compete with ABC (who pretty much owned daytime in the early 1980s with the action/adventure plots on General Hospital and the young love plots on All My Children). I also feel Capitol was used as a placeholder as CBS was probably waiting for Y&R (which became CBS's highest-rated daytime drama in the 1982/1983 season) to be established among the top 3 daytime dramas (which it was from the 1983/1984 season onward) before they were ready to give Bill Bell a 2nd show.

Despit the critical acclaim and Emmy awards to show for it, somehow Santa Barbara was not a huge hit in the US the way it was internationally (as evidenced by the numerous YouTube clips that are subtitled). I suspect premiering during the Summer Olympics and being scheduled opposite General Hospital (which was #1 for most of the 1980s) didn't help matters much.

I watched some clips of Generations on YouTube. The concept was a good 10 years ahead of it's time. Too bad it aired opposite Y&R. Had NBC aired it in the late morning, The Price is Right would've been even tougher competition than Y&R.