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🤣🤣🤣 I know 2005 is generally considered as the end of the second golden age (or the VERY end of it), I loved this period. Ashley B. as Mac is always a treat. As an actress, she was one of the few younger actors who could go head to head with Jeanne Cooper, Jess Walton, and the established Y&R crew.

With regard to his archive, I think the Bells donated the archive prior to Bill's last Y&R episode which may account for the gap. From what I can recall about Bill at DAYS, he did last until (at least) 1977 because that was the end of his DAYS contract with Screen Gems. He would supply Pat Falken Smith with the long term story which she would breakdown into monthly, weekly, and daily story. Maybe, by this time, she was listed as head writer and he as story consultant. People on this site have noted that around 77-78, the quality of DAYS fell a bit which may also coincide with Pat Falken Smith going over to GH and working on Luke & Laura. I'm not a student of DAYS, so pardon any gaps!

I've always found Bill Bell & Agnes Nixon's relationship interesting. He claimed in his Academy interview that he barely knew her, but from my research, it appears he wrote under Agnes in the late-50s while Agnes head wrote THE GUIDING LIGHT. Additionally, if he barely knew Agnes, why is her AMC bible in his archive? SO. MANY. QUESTIONS!

Joshua S. McCaffrey was a former Y&R intern who became a script writer for Y&R in 1997. He left the show in 2007 (LML fired him) and went to B&B. However, Brad became fixated on him and fired him for no good reason. I don't think Joshua has written for daytime since being sacked from B&B. Natalie Minardi Slater was a former Y&R intern as well and she became a script writer and breakdown writer (1998-Present). Before Jack Smith was elevated to head writer, many suspected Minardi Slater was being groomed by Alden to eventually become Y&R's head writer. With the additions of Minardi Slater and McCaffrey in 1997-8, it seems Alden was building out a younger subset of the writing team to coincide with the transition from Bell's era to hers. It's amazing how many soap people from the 70s came out of children's television. I wonder why that was a thing...

Thanks for this wonderful write-up! I was watching LOVING last night and I realized, the "L" in the original logo is an open heart on its side. Very clever!

I forgot Lily wiped out Neil and that Ashley B. returned as Mac for a year.

From documents I've obtained, Bill had a contentious relationship with the WGA from the 60s with regard to the international royalties from DAYS. He chaffed at writing long term story and daily outlines for the show, but having to pay his dialogue writers 50% of his take-home pay. He resisted the same calculation with his international royalties for DAYS. If I remember correctly, Bill wasn't a remember of the WGA for many years because he didn't want to become a scab writer on Y&R. (I wish I'd made a note of that source!) This makes sense to me, especially in the first year of Y&R when he was largely writing the show alone with the help of a few dialogue writers from DAYS. Bill wrote ATWT with Irna until they created ANOTHER WORLD and then he was placed on DAYS. @Paul Raven The producer Sherman is referencing could be Fred "Freddie" Bartholomew. He produced AS THE WORLD TURNS for Benton and Bowles from 1971-73 and then 1980-81. Since Bartholomew had been the VP of Benton and Bowles and produced and/or directed EON, ATWT, and SFT, he may be our guy. Sherman was a bit of a fox! https://books.google.com/books?id=3t5zDrReoyQC&pg=PA275&lpg=PA275&dq=Sherman+Magidson+as+the+world+turns+1973&source=bl&ots=dA52NCwB9G&sig=ACfU3U2kQJcLQ5zG0rZe1QNJtYZ0fuTWXQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj1yqy688HpAhVCqZ4KHYFoCyYQ6AEwCnoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=Sherman Magidson as the world turns 1973&f=false

I believe so!!

According to one of the DAYS history books, it seems (and someone **please** correct me if I'm wrong), that Harrower left Y&R for DAYS.

Thanks for sharing this article! I remember seeing Sherman's name as a consultant on Y&R scripts as late as 2004. From what I've been told by credible sources, Kay Alden was very much running the writer's room on Y&R from the early-90s. Bell supplied the long term story, but Kay was responsible for executing the long term story, working with the breakdown writers, and editing the final scripts. By the time she took over in 1998, it was a formality. Also, when John F. Smith was promoted to head writer, he'd been serving as head writer, but wasn't credited as head writer. Associate Head Writer Kay Alden (1980-1997) Head Writer Kay Alden (1998-2006)

This thread/index is for discussion about the many writers (head, breakdown, and dialogue) who have written for THE YOUNG AND THE RESTLESS. Any names, dates, stories, etc. are welcome! Head Writer 1973-1998 William J. Bell Early Y&R Scriptwriter (Dialogue Writers) 1973-75 Kay Alden Kay Lenard* Elizabeth Harrower Bill Rega* *Worked with Bell on DAYS while writing Y&R For the first two years of Y&R, Bell used some of his dialogue writers from DAYS to script Y&R. Kay Lenard quit Y&R in 1975, but kept working on DAYS.

Early Y&R Scriptwriter (Dialogue Writers) 1973-75 Kay Alden Kay Lenard* Elizabeth Harrower Bill Rega* *Worked with Bell on DAYS while writing Y&R

February 18, 1970 - Variety Raymond E. Goldstone, a staffer on LOVE IS A MANY SPLENDORED THING, is in negotiations with Warner Bros. TV to develop a soaper, tentatively tagged NEWS (has nothing to do with the news media). Goldstone, incidentally, nabbed his first assignment with the soaper.

Should we start a Y&R writer's thread? 😉

Kay Lenard was one of the first script writers on Y&R. In fact, Bill used a lot of a his DAYS script writers on Y&R scripts in 1973-75, but they were getting burned out, so he turned elsewhere. Kay Alden is the friend John F. Smith mentions who was working on her soap opera thesis and wound up interviewing Bell. Kay started at the tale end of 1973-early 1974 and was instrumental in shaping & forming Katherine under Bill's guidance. I have some old notes, etc. on this...I'll have to find them. Someone asked how old Bill Bell, Jr. was...I can't recall if it was on this thread or another. Bill Bell, Jr. was born in 1963, Brad in 1965, and Lauralee in 1968.

Thanks for sharing!

Yep! Loving and Capitol were huge in Italy (probably bigger than B&B). My Italian ex was in love with Myrna on Capitol. I showed him a few Italian episodes of both shows and he was giddy!

Brilliant! I'd love to see what Agnes' original intention was the for the show. Once Marland left LOVING, they removed his name as co-creator of the series. It's amazing the WGA (and Marland's agent) would allow Dramatic Creations to strip him of a co-creator credit. There's still so much that's never be told about LOVING!

If you wouldn't mind sharing it, I know I'd be grateful! When I went to the archive back in 2015, they weren't allowing scans or photos. Thank goodness they've changed their policies!

The entire runs of Y&R, DAYS, GH, and B&B are were/are saved & archived by their production companies. CBS would've wiped the early years of Y&R forty years ago if they could've saved fifty cents. Just ask ABC.

Dear God in heaven, I need to see that scene!

Agreed. Outside of the original pilot and two clip scenes on YouTube, I can't find a single episode of LOVING from 1983! There only seem to be a handful from 1984. I think seeing those episodes might help fill-in the blanks.

You can say that again. Curtis, Clay, Cabot, fake-Clay, Alex...the Forbes'?? Yeah... To this day, it makes my head hurt. Someone needs to write a history of LOVING as a Kindle Single. 🙂

LOL!!! That actually made me laugh out loud and cry a little. It's so true!!!

2012 Y&R? Nope. I'll pass. Why is everything so over-lit in this episode? Garish!