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Vee

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Everything posted by Vee

  1. I think he's taking them all. Posterity:
  2. Endgame time. I think we take it all but NC. 300+ EV. No mandate indeed. LOL:
  3. We can agree to disagree. I don't agree with everything she does and I still give her a side eye just in case, but I think she's come a long way in a short time. She gave the Berners hard truths when they lost and defused a lot of their online bullshít. And I think that clip is on the money.
  4. It's far from meaningless when you remember what Biden can and will do about ICE and those children in cages on Day One. Day. One. So yeah, agreed, folks can miss me with that talk. But I think AOC's clip above from last year is the core of the issue and always has been. And she's right, and I've said it before: The work is ahead of us, and it always was. Meanwhile, in the bunker:
  5. She's right about this clip.
  6. I have begun to think we'll take everything but NC.
  7. A pretty fair thread, IMO.
  8. What would you have had them do? Run Bernie (god, I don't even want to think about what that night would've looked like)? I'm being facetious, I know you don't want that, but I don't know what we could've done beyond perhaps more Latino outreach. And even there there's stuff we probably couldn't change. Racism, misogyny and machismo run deep for a segment of the American culture. Trump was/is its id. That is all there is to it, IMO.
  9. He cares about power, and seats. The below is fantasy camp, since we're taking Arizona and IMO also PA (and possibly GA): Mitch slips the shiv:
  10. The PresidentSupervillain account regularly interpolates Trump tweets into comic panels - it's pretty funny. Re: the above -
  11. IMO: McConnell knows the map is bad for them in '22 and doesn't want to let Biden hang him with that. He's also said in his new press conference he is very concerned about GOP losses in the suburbs. I think they'll do a stimulus deal come January at the latest, but it'll still be a knifefight.
  12. I also think it's a very important question what the red base looks like in two to four years without Trump on the ballot. AFAIC a lot of those surprise voters in the last four years are fickle, ignorant and just looking to see if a Black dude or a woman is daring to tell them what to do. We all wanted that here. But this is what we have to live with, because no matter what could've happened last night this would still be the country that did this to people of color over the last decade. And it's still better than where we've been. He's having a real one:
  13. This one's for you, @DRW50
  14. It's so fùcking tiresome. Of course, I'm not thrilled about the numbers or possibly not taking the Senate, but a win is a win. When Bush won by tiny margins or lost the Senate he still strutted around like Long Dong Silver calling himself a huge victor and the media believed it. That's how Dems have to learn to operate. Stop soul-searching, handwringing and weeping and do the work. This isn't news to most of us, but I've had to say it more than once over the last 12 hours: America has always had this terrible side to it. It rose to the fore when it elected a Black man. For a lot of white people that caused a massive nervous breakdown; Trump was the racist id comfort food for so many of them, or for people just seeking the comfort of traditional masculine/heterosexual/etc. norms. What we do now is dust ourselves off and push forward. Without Trump in the spotlight, that enabled aspect of the culture over the last four years will begin to wilt IMO, lacking a charismatic figurehead and in the face of inevitable cultural future progress. But it's still going to be a long rehabilitation and a long reckoning. America is a multi-century project. And it would've been even if this wasn't close. We weren't going to sweep away the shadow side of America overnight or in one cycle. We never have. But if we cut off the head of this disgusting fúcking filth, we have come that much closer to beginning to drag the worst of this country back towards something more sane. And tired or not, that is what we are going to have to do and what we can do. Allegedly:
  15. LOL:
  16. From the mouths of scum:
  17. A reporting error has led AZ to drop back to 86% reporting. I think Biden will still take it though. Meanwhile:
  18. The difference is, the GOP face a challenging map in 2022. And McConnell has no soul, but he is a reptile who goes where he senses victory and avoids where he senses danger. If Biden and the Dems properly use the bully pulpit they can push for the vote on stimulus or act by EO, just as Trump has done. We're going to have go hard, and we can.
  19. Not having Trump in office would still be a major plus, and will change things within that party bit by bit. McConnell and Graham will go where they think survival is. It won't be a huge change in the GOP base, no, but it will make the Republicans in office operate somewhat differently by not cowering from the demagogue at the top of the ticket tweeting at them nonstop. Republicans don't weep and rend their garments when they take the WH but not the Senate. They get on with it however they can. That's what we have to do now. I think there will be another stimulus, for example, with Trump no longer in the mix and more pressure on the Senate from above. But it's going to all be a series of fights.

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