There's got to be some rabid fan base who are making these reunion clothes because I've never seen dresses like this in a retail store.  Imagine walking into Nordstrom and seeing a lace catsuit with an attached skirt? Does every department store in Potomac have a beaded jumpsuit and evening shorts section?  Why does every housewife want to look as if Bob Mackie was dressing them as a guest on the Cher Show?  Does the nude illusion lace lobby get a kickback for each reunion like Priv? 

Isn't it odd that Reva had two long lost children (Dylan & Jonathan) and Josh had none? 

Josh would jump into another woman's bed every time Reva got lost coming home from the grocery store.  So, isn't an odd missed opportunity that he never had a kid outside of his marriage?

@Soaplover I agree with you on the class issues between Reva and Josh, their upbringing seemed like much more of an issue for Josh than it was Billy.  I also never understood the relationship between Reva and Vanessa.  Why wasn't Vanessa as mean to Reva as she was to Nola?  Reva came to town to break up Billy and Vanessa but, Vanessa never seemed to hold it against her.   

The thing about early Josh and Reva, (before the bridge) is that Josh's responses to Reva's actions always seemed over the top given her misdeed. 

For example, when she came to town (remember those days of turbans, funny personal maids, a masseur and those faux-victorian phones?) she told the Lewis' that she was there because her divorce with Billy had never been finalized.  Later, Josh finds out that Reva was paid to come to town to break up Billy and Vanessa, he freaks out and leaves Reva.  Meanwhile, a year earlier, he was messing with Morgan's marriage and running around in a speedo but nobody called him the Slut of Springfield.  That whole period was so reminiscent of Cat on a Hot Tin Roof; it was reflected in Reva's clothes, the summer heat, and drapes that fluttered in the wind during love scenes.  There were also allusions to Body Heat; the film that KZ never let us forget.  The production staff at the time expected that their audience would appreciate and recognize those literary and film references. 

I know I've been hard on Josh in recent comments because I am reading the SOD synopses of that period.  However, drunk Phillip hit on Reva and Josh didn't defend her and that's why she yelled in the fountain.  Josh also put up with a lot of craziness from Tangie, Sonni, Terri DeMarco, and Annie Dutton that he never tolerated in Reva.  I just think, like many supercouples, Reva tolerated a lot more of Josh's foibles than he did for her. 

@victoria foxton I find it amusing that we've seen Anna's taste when she lived in her cottage with Casey the Alien, and we saw how Rick and Ginny decorated the house, so we can only assume that those ugly curtains and decor were Robert's taste.  Did all of Sean Donnally's stolen Egyptian art wind up in Leslie Webber's living room?

On 4/8/2018 at 12:05 AM, Paul Raven said:

Something about the Lemay interview doesn't ring true to me...

Postmortem, did anyone ever verify the interview?

2 highlights of the episode - (1) We get bitchy Felicia, it's easy to forget that Felicia had an ax to grind when she arrived in Bay City, and (2) Stephen Yates in short shorts

Also Blaine and Clarisse were really victimized by their time in Bay City.  They were both raped, they were scorned, and they were beaten.  I forgot how violent the late 70's soaps were to women until I re-read Blaine's history. 

I keep forgetting that Josh became a minister.  Josh Lewis, the guy who was introduced seducing models away from their husbands and running a country music label eventually worked in a grey office as a minister?  IMHO, Josh was never even that nice of a guy.  He always had a chip on his shoulder, he was never a significant asset to Lewis Oil, and I don't recall him having many friends. Billy had Hamp,  Buzz and Frank were close, but nobody hung out with Josh.  I recall that he had a religious conversion after a medical crisis but, given his history, I would think Josh was as likely to run a church as Alexandra would run a day care center. 

Here's the thing about old soaps.  I started with Beth/Philip/Mindy/Rick, I left daily watching around the Cooper period, I checked back in to giggle at San Cristobal and stare agog at Peapack.  But, at the end, (spoiler alert) I still shed a genuine tear when Philip found Alan dead.

Today's random thought was about Rick and Leslie's house. 

Please correct/fill in my memories.  Leslie lived in the house when Laura was a murderous teen,  Then Rick moved in, married Leslie, and she "died" in a car crash.  Rick continued to live in the house with Ginny until she left.  I recall Tony living there.  I know Lucy lived there, with Colton and her Aunt, because her infamous Red Hat Wedding to Alan happened in the Ol' Webber House.  Now Mac lives there and raised Maxie and Robin in that house.

How did Mac get the house?  Did Lucy move in after her affair with Tony?  Didn't Felicia own it at one point?  Wasn't Ginny's baby daddy Lawrence Barrington the uncle of PC Alison Barrington?  I wonder if they'll ever bring Ginny's kid back to make up for Rafe?

4 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

Within a year, they made her and Kelly almost interchangable with the victimization/kidnapping/emotional issues, etc.

That's why Robert Barr never worked for me. 

SB had never really played the tension between Kelly and Eden.  Kelly never seemed ambitious and Eden never liked any of Kelly's boyfriends, thus they both stayed in their lanes.  So, when Robert returns to SB and re-ignites this feud between the sisters it didn't hold water.  The timeline was weird of when he and Eden met, why Eden never knew he was a twin, why Kelly acted as if she had never met Robert, coupled with the extreme subtlety in difference between Robert and Quinn that made them impossible to tell them apart resulted in a story/character a dud for me.  Flame was good but couldn't save it for me.

Was Flame re-cast and at what point in the story was she re-cast?

4 hours ago, robbwolff said:

There was, indeed, a montage in the first Peapack episode, albeit it was at the end of the show. It featured a series of clips, including a football game with the Coopers, Remy doing sit-ups (I think), Rick in jail, Reva, Jeffrey, Cassie, and Josh outside the lighthouse (which was suddenly in the middle of the woods).

The suddenness of the new sets was coupled with tons of exposition about the character's placement.  E.g.; "look, we're at the hospital" (which is just one room, and less modern than last week), "now we're at Lewis Oil" (which now looks like mechanic shop), and now let's head over to Reva's (but she no longer lives at Reva-bend, she's moved into a one-room shack) - it lacked glamour.  @Khan I agree that the transition needed a plot devise so that we weren't just staring at industrial looking rooms; like if Billy Lewis bought Springfield and evicted everyone.  It was clear as a long time viewer that those 1970's European spies would be much less comfortable in the "New Springfield."

3 hours ago, depboy said:

Robin’s three godfathers were Frisco, Sean and Buzz.

 

Another example that Anna has been a terrible mother to Robin.  She deserted her at a young age with Philomena, gave her three deadbeat godfathers who've never kept in touch, and I doubt she ever reimbursed Mac for Robin's college and med school expenses!  I think Anna's long lost children would better off raised by anyone else.

On 7/31/2018 at 8:09 PM, All My Shadows said:

Carol Burnett on MeTV, and she mentioned AMC and even had Nick Benedict in the audience

It's an odd, and obviously true, fact that Carol Burnett was such an AMC fan because Y&R was on CBS , like Carol, and they both taped at Television City. 

47 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

Rumor has it that if this hadn't happened... Roger/Holly might not have returned since Blake wasn't supposed to have been Christina.. but who knows for sure.

It stands to reason that Blake wasn't conceived to be Christina because the detail of an adult renaming themselves always bothered me.  Who does that?  Except of course for Charlotte "Raven" Alexander, William "Snapper" Foster Jr., and Jeannie "Theresa" Donovan.

Remember this?

Does anyone recall what happened to Buzz and Sandy Stryker?

Dr. Buzz was Jimmy Lee's best friend from Colorado and Sandy was his nursing student daughter.  At one point Buzz was so important that he and Sean Donnally were named by Felicia as two of her godfathers for her wedding to Frisco.  Meanwhile, I doubt Buzz even sent a gift by the time Maxie was born.

Also were Sean and Buzz Felicia's godfathers or Robin's? And who were the other godfathers?

11 minutes ago, vetsoapfan said:

someone should ask Zimmer now, after the fact, what she really thought of all those crap-tastic stories dumped on Reva over the years (the clone, the time travel, the ghost, etc.)

That's all in her book.  It's instructive when Ms. Zimmer writes that she understood the criticism of the clone story but she really appreciated the screen time.  We assume that actors share the audience's taste but I will attach this as a reminder that it is not always true.  

2 hours ago, Mitch said:

Lisa and Babs started Fashions

I feel like every soap boutique needs two things: (1) a magical dressing room where as soon as a customer enters people in the store can talk and nobody hears them, and (2) hat boxes; because every long shopping trip is always indicated by an abundance of hat boxes

4 hours ago, John said:

The 1984 Promo with Llyod Bochner as CC makes me wonder what could have been

I am enticed by it as an intro for Eden.  CC's focus is always on Kelly or Channing. I would have been thrilled if Eden's longing for CC's attention was more of a motivation for that character.  Although IRL I'm sure they just hadn't cast Eden when the promo was shot, this would have been an excellent jumping off point for an Eden who may have been more of an understanding ally to Mason, or at least more conflicted about her relationship with CC.  I feel like Sofia touches on these issues in the first year when CC is on life support but it didn't remain an issue for Eden.  It is as if latter on when she keeps getting kidnapped and victimized, the writers forgot that Eden was the one who jumped out of a plane as her entrance into town.

2 hours ago, OldGHFan said:

Holly is the first person who (consistently) calls him Robert.

I can't recall when Tiffany went from calling him Scorpio to calling him Robert, but I can recall her drawl when calling for him.

I searched the actress who played Prunella the other day when the topic first appeared.  She was in Number 96 which is one of the first Aussie soaps.  Her character was the pantyhose killer.  Perhaps Aussie actors didn't complain to producers about things like stories being preposterous?

There's an inherent "fourth wall" problem with Potomac.  Given that all of the women tape their interviews in front of a green screen, Karen could live on Mars and the background of her confessionals would stay the same.

The BH lost footage episode this season confirmed what I have suspected for a long time; all interviews are now filmed in studio with a green screen shot of their homes.  Remember when Kyle shows up to do LVP's makeup touch-up and then later in the episode LVP pops into Kyle's interview?  They weren't at each other homes.  They were scheduled after each other to film interviews in the production studio.  That is why the time of day behind them never changes in the interviews.  It is also why the women look a little weird they wear reflective makeup because it messes with green screen.  Finally, if you look closely you'll notice that all of the ladies in every city sit on the same chair to be interviewed.

If Karen was being filmed in her own home for interviews then production would know where she lives.  Thus, the Potomac women are left debating an issue that could be easily solved just by asking a producer.  This creates a fourth wall issue which is always frustrating as a viewer because they cannot address it directly.

@Soapsuds @KhanWhat happened to the actual store once Barbara started designing?  Did Lisa buy it originally after her bookshop?

Please help me to remember the provenance of the fashion boutique of Oakdale. 

My memory is that Lisa owned the store, then she partnered with Barbara, then Barbara took it over, then Barbara started her own line with Hank as the designer, then the focus switched from the store to the clothes business and eventually Carly designed for the company.

BUT

What was the name of Barbara's store and the clothing company?  Were they both called Fashions (like AMC's eponymous Boutique)? 

Wasn't there also a Simply Barbara line of clothes?

What happened to the original store?  How did Lisa get it and why did she sell it?

Wasn't Daryl Crawford or Brock Lombard somehow involved with the fashion company?

Was Barbara still in the fashion biz at the end?

At what point did they stop referring to Tristan Roger's character as Scorpio and started calling him Robert?

Was it Holly or Anna who first called him Robert?  Or was it Mac, in order to facilitate the differentiation of the Scorpio brothers? 

Bonus points if anyone can answer my other question about what happened between Tristan and the actress that played Prunella?

Extra bonus points if anyone can tell me why Kevin doesn't live in the lighthouse he bought from Bill Eckart on Port Charles (besides the obvious that the set was destroyed years ago, I mean have they addressed it in the story)?

I think the issue with all the Kevin and Joey's is that (1) there was never an established narrative to differentiate the boy's personality.  (2) Neither son had a specialization that was vital to the plot.  And (3) Kevin was burdened with a family too early in his story so he seemed like a deadbeat when he was romancing women and neglecting Duke. 

They were also poorly transitioned from Bo and Clint. The Buch Bros dominated stories as  leading men and when it was their turn to become older statesmen, Kevin or Joey were obvious leading man material.  However, Clint "went off to the London office" once too often and, Bo was de-aged to be so close to Kevin that both guys dated Cassie.  As a result, neither boy had any conflict or special relationship with the prior generation; like Bo and Rex would share in latter years.

Joey needed to a male version of Kelly; a spoiled irresponsible playboy.  While Kevin should have developed an antagonism toward Clint for trying to adopt him and erase the memory of his father; as well as all how Clint cheated on Vicky.  Kevin should have stayed a journalist, like his father Joe, and always threatening to expose Buchanan family secrets (sort of like Todd and The Sun).  Vicky could have been constantly torn between her devotion toward her two sons.  Instead, Vicky's daughters got much more airtime and they became better defined than her sons.  In fact, the final decade contains a bunch of Kevin and Joey stand-in characters who were mentored by Vicky, Bo, or Clint when they should have maintained a focus on those two.