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This is going to feel weird to say, but similar to Robin, I just think Sam has moved on as a person since Jason. It was fun and games and motorcycle rides in the beginning, but now she has kids, Dante, and stability. There is no reason for her to take steps back. Carly is the only one idiotic enough for that.

Yes I am going to grab the gif of John slamming Marlena into a door because it's hilarious and also abuse etc so I am not advocating it, but still makes me laugh. I can't find the actual scene but this is a fantastic silly montage. At approx 5:30 in Okay. I just wasn't clear. John was healthy and of mostly sound mind. He just wanted nothing to do with his past life.

I am not exactly sure what your asking, but John was RoboJohn no memory John when Ava/John dated. IMO, there was no coercion or force. John just wasn't "normal" John.

First off, I meant RH as Todd. Can't type lol. Sonny probably only has had 2 or 3 good pairings 1. duh Brenda 2. SJB/TB's Carly 3. Megan Ward's Kate 4. LW as Carly. I don't hate them. I just don't think they have romantic chemistry. Yeah. I didn't see that much chemistry with her and Ted King on GH. Sometimes I think the show actively works against Carly pairings because if it's too good then she can't be paired with Sonny again. Ric locked her in a panic room and faked raped her, so maybe he could have been Jagger lol.

The only people I have thought LW has ever had romantic chemistry with on GH was IR and SK's AJ . Maybe early RH as Todd. She's great at platonic chemistry, but not great at romantic chemistry on GH. I know she's had it in spades on other shows. It's weird, but I don't think the people Carly interacts with play to her romantic heroine strengths.

I am not saying John doesn't have reasons to hate her. I find the whole relationship ill conceived and random. I was just saying I don't think she forced herself on John or that he was unwilling. It was a bad time on Days. I think in regards to John's memory it's all a bit of a slippery slope because he's never had much memory or idea who he was, so was Marlena forcing him when they thought he was Roman? Isabella? When John had no idea who he was? So while I didn't like Ava or the relationship, I just don't think there was any coercion there. RoboJohn made it clear he did not want his memories back.

Yes, but Jason doesn't remember Jagger. He got brain damaged way after the fact. Jason wouldn't remember anything about Karen.

She's still alive. Lol @AbcNbc247 just said that. I wouldn't say Ava forced John into anything. He wasn't himself, but he was fine with that and didn't care about his old memories.

The story was just terrible too. The reality show, Trey, abandoning college. Idk, I can barely remember the actress and I just remember she was called "sexy Kristina". Trey being Kate/Connie's rape baby was enough for me to block out the entire period of time on the show.

I probably agree with this, but I don't think I have seen NuMolly actually do anything career related yet. I think we've only just seen her saying she was going/leaving/on a break from work lol.

I think TJ works fine as a Dr. Portia didn't even put her stethoscope to her ears the other day while checking Dante's heartbeat and she's the Chief of Staff. I think TJ is more believable as a Dr. than HP's Molly was as a lawyer.

Yeah. At this point the woman has made it clear she is RETIRED and never coming back, so as long as Abe got his memory back it is what it is. The show wasn't really being lazy. The actress sounded a bit like RJ. Unless Abe was visited by his dead brother Theo SR. I can't really think of any way to get out of it. And OGTheo is probably too obscure of a reference since he died in 85, but so did Megan lol.

It's funny both John and Steve are so exasperated by Ava, but both men have slept with her lol. Anyhow, I thought today was OK. I thought Tate/Holly was by far the best part. The Lexie stuff was silly, but didn't bother me really. What can you do? Renee Jones retired.

I liked Lexi. I didn't mean to imply I had an issue with the way she looks. I suspect she didn't get written for because she looked so young for so long. I absolutely think she would have done fine in this story. I just like Kate Mansi too. Like I said, LLC and Kemo are only 5 or 6 years apart in age. It's not weird that they look similar in age. There have been a lot of times KeMo has looked tired, worn out, and not that well. I haven't noticed any difference good or bad in the last few years. She looks the same to me. I do think she dresses much cuter than she used to though. As I said above Dante looks older than both Sam and Olivia and I don't think DZ looks bad or anything. I also don't think LLC looks unnatural even though it's obvious she gets work done. I liked last week too! I really hope the Ava twist is coming. I think it would be a great story. Did people like LM as Kristina? Besides @Liberty City right now, I don't think I heard anyone say they liked her lol.

Could work. I didn't think about that. Jagger is pretty much a blank slate, so you could really put him anywhere. I was just assuming it would be someone closer to Sonny so Sonny gets to throw a tantrum.

Lisa LoCicero is only 5 or 6 years older than KeMo. Even though she's Dante's mother lol. KeMo has always looked a little rougher around the edges even when she was younger. LLC clearly has fillers and takes care of herself, so it's not even strange to me she looks younger. She looks younger than Dante most of the time. I was a big Lexi supporter but the fact is the girl just never stopped looking like a teenager. In about 10 years LA might be happy about that, but Mansi looks like an adult. Mansi is doing a great job, but I do think Lexi could have handled the material. It's a shame Lexi didn't get more story and airtime for so long though. I like both actresses. I still think they may pair Jagger with Carly, not Jason. I could see Jagger and Ava too though.

Jason is pretty dense. The red flags are everywhere with Karen lol. I wouldn't say Brenda lacks humanity, but lacks depth and direction in early episodes. VM is also very green as an actress. I think WN would have been great as Bill

The actual island story wasn't that bad. Once Jason/Jagger/Karen got back thinking they killed a man they were getting blackmailed into increasingly goofy things. Jagger was stealing cars, Jason was stealing Edward's coin collection to make money, Karen was crying or something and it just one of those dumb teen stories. If any of them had any brains they would just tell their parents (or just Monica/Alan) they killed an escaped con in self defense. And...he wasn't even dead. Then Brenda arrives two minutes later and the island debacle is mostly forgotten.

The clips I was watching were strictly early Jagger/Karen, so Robin only appears when she is with them. She doesn't get an entire POV, but I assumed Robin perceived Karen as a romantic rival although Jason/Karen were oblivious. I am not sure if we are supposed to find Karen/Jason rootable. Obviously, Jagger/Karen were the endgame from the jump, but Jason was very nice to Karen in the beginning. Jason was a bit douchey to Jagger, but good to Karen. I can understand Jason's anger a bit (not the slut shaming) because Karen did really lead him on for a long time. This is why I tend to find Karen so passive. She seems to just let things happen to her and creates problems with her lack of action and backbone. She let's Brenda walk all over and she let's Jagger and Jason save her or fix her problems. I don't even think Karen truly finds her own agency and power until the end of the Sonny storyline. Lol! I really don't have a take on Nikki because I only have seen her in scenes and Kelly's but I do know no one except AJ likes her and I am not sure why Ruby even rents a room to her. Idk, if we hear more about Lenny or the boyfriend/stepfather. I am pretty sure Brenda/Jagger talk about it again when they are looking for Gina and Stone. I'll take a peek at that soon. I am not sure if the story changes because they obviously age up the kids quite a bit. I know Jagger says something about running away from a group home, but looking at the clip I linked he's just crying in a hallway. They don't appear to take Jagger into custody. Thanks for breaking down the Atkins story. I knew who they were, but I started skipping ahead when Karen/Jagger/Jason started doing increasingly ridiculous things because it got a bit silly.

That makes sense. It's pretty decent. The stuff with Cal drags on a bit post-island, but it's mostly silly plans teenagers would do that are absolutely stupid. There is blackmail, them all pooling their money together to pay the blackmail, Jason trying to sell Edward's coin collection, and it all working out in the end. There is also a whole thing about Rhonda sending one of her boyfriends to beat up Jagger because she was convinced Jagger beat Karen on the island. Brenda shows up at video 94 of this playlist (I skipped a bit), so I am dipping out of this project. I am pretty well versed in everything that happens next and I still don't find Karen compelling enough to follow even in edit form. I might go back and watch edits of Brenda and Jagger talking about Mike/Stone because I think there was more elaborate info there and Brenda actually has a bigger part in find Gina/Stone than Karen does.

Is anyone else getting really dizzy looking at Ava's blurry shirt or am I losing my vision entirely? I can see MW clearly, but her shirt is like an optical illusion or something.

This is just a Karen/Jagger playlist. The clip I linked above has all the videos, but I have no idea what month. I would say August of 92 because they celebrated 4th of July fairly recently and it appears to be still summer, but not sure. Brenda first appears on Sept 18th of that year and I haven't seen her yet so it's between late July and early September because Karen/Jason are back at the hotline now.

So I have gotten to the Stone/Jagger/Gina backstory. I will insert a clip. It happens when Jagger/Jason/Karen are stranded on that island. Basically Jagger was 14 and Stone/Gina were looking like kids-much younger. The mother leaves them for someone named Lenny. And is all you are a man now Jagger because 14 year old Jagger was played by ASJ perhaps? His name was currently Jagger at the time so I guess he got it on the playground or something? CPS or something like that took the kids away because Jagger wasn't watching them when he was working all night which all in all seems fair. Jason/Karen/Jagger also kill a man which I entirely forgot about lol. I can't remember if this guy stays dead. I want to say he ends up alive. This island story is so silly, but fun.

I felt Robin/Jason was supposed to be a young crush that actually slow burned once she grew up and finally got the guy she wanted for so long. It was in people's mind, but put away until Robin grew up and had some experience. I am not sure if Karen was supposed to be an interloper or not. I honestly think KMc just probably looked way too young at the time to be paired with Steve Burton. Karen was just always so morose and Jason was so upbeat. I don't blame Karen for her attitude, but she wasn't even that nice to Jason lol. I don't even know what Jason Q saw in her. I must have missed that episode or it wasn't included lol. I just thought it was such a shift for Bill, but it did really seem like temp work. I have seen him working once for Bill and not again. Yes, I noticed Nikki lived upstairs, but everyone from Ruby to Jagger to Karen are openly hostile with her and calling her names and dropping food on her. Why would she want to live there? I can understand the Brenda comparisons because it really did seem like the show was thinking about her and Jagger from what little I've seen. Not enough data yet to tell if they have chemistry, but I don't know how much longer she's going to be around. I remember tolerating Rhonda overall, but her intro is just so ridiculous. Wearing boas and skin tight dresses to the Q's and trying to smoke a cigarette inside? It's just a lot of flash with no substance behind it because poor, poor Karen.

I was going to say Paulina's illness escalated really quickly. I knew she was quite sick, but not near death. The scenes around it were nice. I actually found Tripp/Wendy's scenes okay and less boring. They were a bit more deep then them just pretending they were in other places. So I did like Ava taking charge, but it was incredibly stupid to make both her hired goons/bodyguards to bring Steve/John home. She left herself alone with Clyde with no back up? Cop girl and Clyde is just gross but also gave me a little laugh, so whatever.