pdm1974

11 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

Yes, it was.  Patrick Mulcahey and Frank Salisbury were and are the best dialogue writers in the business, bar none.  But, SB might have been TOO different (for daytime) to have any real staying power.  Plus, was it just me, or did anyone else who watched notice how the writers tended to throw out or cut short even the stuff that WAS working?  It's as if Chuck Pratt, Jr., or whoever was HW'ing the show at the moment, had an extremely short attention span.

Stories moved very quickly sometimes! And many characters came and went as a result. I often think it was a show way ahead of its time.

22 minutes ago, Wendy said:

No love for Santa Barbara here? When it was good, it was awesome! (And when it was bad, a la the last year or two, it was painful.) still, it seemed to get a lot of love and a cult following for only 8.5 years on the air.

Santa Barbara has always been my top soap...and one of my favorite TV shows period. I watched from the beginning to the end. When it was hitting on all cylinders it was off the chain good!

On 5/21/2019 at 10:54 AM, MichaelGL said:

Has Maggie ever fallen off the wagon before?

 

 

I don't believe so. This would be a first which will make it more compelling.

5 hours ago, MichaelGL said:

Has Maggie ever fallen off the wagon before?

 

 

I don't believe so. This would be a first which will make it more compelling.

15 hours ago, DaytimeFan said:

 

But I did find Suzanne Rogers compelling when she went over to the bar set. Is Maggie going to finally fall off the wagon? 

This is literally the ONLY reason I'm tuning in right now. SR/Maggie is so deserving to have a real storyline again. I, for one, really enjoyed the show a few years back when she was frontburner again. No matter what, or how little, they give her, she manages to squeeze every little bit of possible emotion out of it.

I think this story has a lot of possibility IF it is done right. What happens when the person that so many people lean on to maintain their own sobriety begins to slip? This could, "COULD", be a great umbrella story that could impact many characters. Fingers crossed it's done right.

I'm pretty sure I saw Esther at Neil's funeral, but she didn't have any lines.

8 hours ago, DaysFanatic777 said:

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8 hours ago, DaysFanatic777 said:

 

 

Maggie almost taking a swig was great soap opera, and Suzanne could nail another turn at the bottle, if they let her do it.  

 

 

 

I would love for them to give SR another crack at a REAL story. The woman can act, and when they really give her meaty material she runs with it.  She was such a highlight a few years back when they sort of rediscovered her character and had her frontburner for a couple of years. Maggie has spent all of these decades nursing other addicts, so it would be interesting to see what would happen when the one who usually holds others together begins to fall apart. I could see from the character's perspective that it would be very difficult to ask for help when all the other addicts in town look to you for advice.

21 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

That's when Minx came back. She even joked that the Capridge Water deaged her.

She was de-aged quite a bit by that water! I wonder what the age difference was between Janis Page and Nicholas Coster. I did enjoy her in the role though. As much as I wasn't a fan of Pam Long's last year of writing, she did use the Lockridges, including Minx, more than previous regimes.

8 hours ago, chrisml said:

I wonder if Paul Rauch as producer of SB also caused a lot of the problems during the Dobsons' return. He made a point to destroy Augusta's character and fire Louise Sorel (wasn't it because they had had an affair at some point?) and Augusta kept having those flirtations/dream sequences with her sister's rapist. Rauch and Roscoe Born butted heads so Born was gone, and Bizeau soon followed. A real shame as I thought the Flame/Michael pairing was great. Runyeon also disappeared soon after. 

Bizeau as Flame was amazing....she had a real "it" factor about her.

I really wish Amazon or another streaming service would show this show from the beginning.

1 minute ago, amybrickwallace said:

 

Yes, here's the preview:

 

 

Oh, wow! I wonder how it would have went if he had been able to do the role.

1 minute ago, amybrickwallace said:

 

Don't forget Lloyd Bochner, who was originally cast as CC. He got sick right before taping was to start, and thus was replaced at the last minute with Peter Mark Richman. Thankfully, they eventually got Jed Allan and the rest is history.

Oh wow! I didn't know there was yet ANOTHER CC before the show even aired.

Out of all the SB recasts, who do you think was the MOST successful in their role?

I am sooooo going to be watching this one. I've been waiting for Netflix to do something good and soapy!

This might be a bit controversial...it sounds like he was a nightmare on set, but I enjoyed Robert Kelker-Kelly's Bo much more than Peter Reckell's. The character under RKK was more complex, a bit darker, and he's what got me into DAYS during that time.

1 hour ago, Wendy said:

 

Well, CC on Santa Barbara had recast after recast until TPTB got it right with #4 in Jed Allan. Maybe other shows hoped to finally hit the casting bull's eyes - and just never did.

I think CC #2 only lasted about a month!

A tale of four Thornes....Out of the four actors playing Thorne on B&B, who do you think was the most successful? I always found it odd that they just couldn't seem to get this character to take off.

30 minutes ago, Efulton said:

 Ellen Wheeler , Anne Heche, Jensen Buchanan (Marley/Victoria)

Wasn't there a brief time when another actress played just Vicky between Ellen Wheeler and Anne Heche?

I hated that JB refused to also play Marley. The recasting (after a fire facial reconstruction) with Ellen Wheeler was so baaaaaaddddd. Not to mention the height difference was like a foot between the two! Of course, this was near the end.

36 minutes ago, j swift said:

Dan Gauthier (June 27, 2003 to November 2010)

 

 

He was probably the best out of all of them! The custody trial with Kelly...he did some great work.

40 minutes ago, j swift said:

Obviously, there were a million actors who played either Tom Hughes or Kevin Buchanan.  

How many Kevins were there? It felt like a new one every year. Kirk Geiger is the one that sticks out to me because I watched the show during his tenure.  There were also quite a few Joeys. The casting of Natalie is the one they seemed to get right from the start.

1 hour ago, danfling said:

 

 

I never cared for Blair #2.   How did others feel about her?

 

 

 

 

I just remember being shocked when Blair turned white and had a Southern accent!

27 minutes ago, j swift said:

 

Kelly - I prefer Carrington Garland, even over the original Robin Wright, mostly because she played the dynamic between Kelly and Eden.  Two girls growing up in a single-father household would have tons of issues with competition and sexuality.  Carrington played that motivation more than the others in the role

 

 

Carrington Garland was my favorite Kelly as well. She played a perfect balance of everything, and plus...she looked like Eden's sister. I think it was very short sighted to replace her with Eileen Davidson who just never meshed into the role. Once Eden left, I think CG's Kelly was the best candidate to pick up that mantle of lead heroine.

On 4/17/2019 at 11:50 PM, Wendy said:

BJ and Warren never made sense. And unlike many, I thought they had zero chemistry. I hated Cassie, but she and Warren (even with the later incestuous angle) had chemistry. Ditto Warren and Angela.

 

So why the hell TIIC put Warren with BJ the drip mystified me. Well, I kind of know. To help Pam Long's pet Kim Zimmer's character's family get a foothold. Alas, the Walkers sucked. Every last one of them.

I actually loved Cassie. I thought she was a fascinating character and had the potential to keep stirring the pot long-term. I was disappointed when they got rid of her. I saw the actress who played has done some directing for TV since then.

I didn't get BJ and Warren either. He seemed way too old for someone who was just a college freshman. I was always just so-so with the Walkers. They tried to start a family around Thaao Penghlis giving him two kids, but that was all at the very end.

One thing they never revealed was who Warren's birth father was, and I was glad they didn't. That shouldn't have even been a story point to give him a history with Cassie. At one point, I just knew they were going to have it revealed that CC was his birth father.

On 4/17/2019 at 11:53 PM, amybrickwallace said:

The only Walker the viewers wanted was Marcy. I wonder if she was even approached about coming back after Palace Guard tanked.

I think when she left it was really the beginning of the end.

8 hours ago, j swift said:

For every Robert Barr in a cage, we mostly got stories where main characters were falsely accused and their innocence was never in doubt.  

That was probably the BEST twist they ever did. I remember that episode to this day...first with Flame removing the black wig and we see she's a blond goddess...then she walks into that room...hits a remote and there was Robert Barr...it was like WTF but in a good way.

1 hour ago, Soaplovers said:

I think Mary dying when the C from the sign fell on her was the best twist..and oddly made sense.

 

I'll even say I liked that a middle class family The Walkers were introduced...and even liked all of them...but fo agree BJ and Warren were a bad fit...Warren/Angela were a good couple.

Poor Mary and that big letter C.

3 hours ago, j swift said:

This is what I still don't get about the remake - are the characters destined to same fate simply because they share a name with a character from the original?

I have no clue whether they're going now that Alexis and Fallon are played by the same person. I still don't know how THAT'S supposed to work!

2 hours ago, John said:

Not sure  I liked it. Thought it was Calista Flockhart at first

It's a bizarre twist. I'm not sure how this can work long-term. Won't it be confusing for new viewers? It's one thing to play twins...but mother AND daughter??

There's jump the shark and there's jump the whole freaking ocean!

On 4/3/2019 at 10:17 PM, pdm1974 said:

Alexis will have to become Alexis Colby at some point. Originally, I thought she'd marry Jeff and Monica's father, but her hooking up with Jeff...that'd be a twist.

 

The bigger question is who are they recasting the role with. Obviously, they're keeping the character. I kind of wonder if we were given a clue when Adam told Alexis she once looked like a young Fallon. Then, he gave the doctor a picture to base the surgery on...Would they do it? Have Elizabeth Gilles play both roles??? Use make-up to produce an older version of herself.

OMG! I called it!

11 minutes ago, j swift said:

 

 

To be fair, when they write Brandon off before the end of the series, it is CC who pays for his education, even though Gina goes on to marry his grandfather Lionel.  

I hated it when they wrote off Brandon. His relationship with Gina was such a sweet one, and it brought out a totally different side to the portrayal of Gina.

On 4/15/2019 at 10:56 AM, Emma1420 said:

 

I agree with a lot of this.  I think a lot of EP's are just not a great fit for the show that they are producing.   Or at least their vision of the show simply doesn't mesh with mine as a viewer.   

 

But, I do think that there are some EP's who are simply incompetent.  I think Ellen Wheeler fits in that category.   

 

 

 

 

The last couple of years of GL...oh, man. Those who also watched...what did you think was the final nail in the coffin: the writing or the production values? Because at this point I think the production values were actually better than was DAYS has now!

2 hours ago, j swift said:

Hayley and Skye are interesting counterparts.  Both found out that Adam was their rich father when they were no longer children, but Skye settled into the Chandler lifestyle so much easier.  Skye immediately took on the Chandler name, I think Hayley was always a Vaughn.  Hayley stayed in touch with her mother and her side of the family (including Uncle Porkchop), whereas Skye was never as invested in a relationship with Rae.  They had such little overlap, but it is interesting to think about what they must have thought of each other.

Didn't Adam also have a long-lost son that was part Latino?