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Here is another short clip of Jill, this time with Lindsey Wells. Pretty sure Brenda is seen at Jabot with this outfit briefly in Vid 50a.

Same. I remember Bill Bell saying he recommended Days producers look at Diedre for the role of Marlena as he had no more story left for her at Y&R. When he would see her, once she was on the show, he said she wasn't at all friendly to him. He would say hello and she would just ignore him. Seems she always had an attitude.

I think that episode is out there, but the end is missing. Cuts off during this scene with Nikki and Jack. Might be April. Pretty sure it was posted in this forum if not in the vault https://bit.ly/2A3Bnhv Hopefully this works, let me know

She even tried to hire Jazz to bump her off in 1984, lol. I would love to see that scene Jill's story was short. She gets caught, helps Kay get back on her feet and that is that. Ends by May/June 76 and the Derek Thurston story starts up, but was halted after 8 weeks or so and revisited a year later in spring/summer 1977 after Jill had been dating David Mallory, the man who got Bill Foster's corneas. Suzanne rocks up around 1978 and starts gaslighting Kay around 1979. That story went on for most of 1979.

Yeah GH was so up and down pre-Marland and Monty. It is fascinating. I really want to get to know it better. I am fairly obssessed with soaps in general between 68 - 82. Just haven't had the time to read more than Y&R stuff at this point.

Thanks @FrenchFan for all this effort to share. Love the extra pages as well.

Is it possible he moved out after the whole paternity suit. He was pretty upset with Kay or maybe after the previous lawsuit that made Jill and Phillip's marriage void

I think BD's Jill would have kept you guessing, is she frightened for John or herself or both. That's what I preferred about her. You could never be quite sure. Jess did say once Jill was a sociopath, not sure I believe that, but let's face it, Jill always looked out for one person. Herself. In 1985 when Jill got kicked out of the Abbott home. Jill cries her heart out to John "I love you, you are the most amazing man, I will miss you" she walks out lof the house and with a cold steely look vows to take John to the cleaners. This is the Jill I have always liked.

Hey everyone. Here are some Jill clips from Nov/Dec 1983 and Jan/Feb 1984. Not sure where I got this but since the uploads are not really showing the Abbott's I figured I would share this. Clips are random and not full, but still interesting

Apparently there was a fire when the boys (Lance and Lucas) were young. I can't remember who was at fault. Maybe Lucas???? She wore it from day one. Lorie pushed Vanessa to have surgery as she felt Vanessa was using her scars as a way to hold on to Lance. At one point Lorie and Lucas were convinced Vanessa had already had surgery and confronted her and made her show her face. She hadn't had surgery and was so humiliated she swore revenge on Lorie by publishing her (Lorie's) book which led to Leslie and Lance sleeping together and little Brooks coming along. Vanessa did have the surgery eventually around 1978 or 1979 I think

I definitely got the Y&R one from ebay at some point. This seems to be it, but it can't b the full magazine, so who knows what I did with it. I wish had I had taken better care of things. I'll post this to the FB group too Part 2 I agree about Brenda and Jill, but I loved the ice in her veins Jill. The Ice Princess/Queen stuff she does is so good. That smile and soft voice, with those eyes that look like they will eviscerate you at any moment, wish Brenda had kept this style instead of the over the top Alexis Carrington routine that would come later. I do really like Deborah too though and would have been fine if she had stayed. I never found Jill to be a warm character though. Even in the Jan 74 episode you can tell she feels above it all and is just waiting for her opportunity to walk out the door of that shabby house and never look back

I really like Andrea and she did an amazing job, but it is hard to watch her play out those scenes. Lilibet was there for the two years of build up when Patty and Jack were involved (81-83), so it is a slight let down, but isn't Andrea's fault, you really still feel for her and she is chilling in the shooting scene. If Lilibet had stayed for a few more months and then Andrea took over, I think the recast would have been more successful. Julia is great, and I wonder if Meg was writing for the show at this point You can see from 1982 (Maybe once Bell knew JLB was leaving) that Nikki becomes a real focal point. in the 82/83 and 83/84 seasons it is really Nikki/Victor/Bancrofts The Abbots and the Williams. Nikki was such a main draw and had a lot of story I will always prefer Brenda, she isn't the better actress, she just inhabits the role so completely that everything she does is Jill to me. Only after Who Shot Jill wrapped up do I wish Deborah was back or Jess had taken over already. Though Jill does push Liz to go back to work for Kay to spy for her when she is convinced Kay and DIna are plotting to destroy her marriage, so I guess she got over that, haha The magazine she holds up at 11min I have or had, I wonder if I can find it.

It is still mostly Victor/Nikki/Julia/Kevin etc. There is still a bunch edited out. No full episodes, 1982 had at least a couple of full episodes. The only big sequence we get not attached to Victor/Nikki is the Patty shooting Jack recreation. I was hoping for more Abbott family stuff, but not much is there. We don't get any Kay/Jill at all really, apart from brief glimpses

Alison and Kevin left around Mar 84. Earl left a bit earlier

@FrenchFan Thanks so much for continuing this. I have one issue of Soap Bubble magazine from May which has synopsis from late Feb - mid March. My scanner is broken but I should be getting it fixed today. Being in lockdown doesn't make this stuff easy. We are in stage 4 so pretty much nothing is open. I will try to get it up as soon as I can, good compliment to the DSN. Plus the Daily TV Serials Magazines I have waiting too. In the meantime here is a newspaper article about the P&G soaps from May 1976 Also for Y&R fans. Janice Lynde did a pilot for Norman Lear called Roxy. It wasn't picked up, though if it had been Janice would have left the show, though she did talk of doing both initally. This article talks about the dates of production and gives a bit of detail, I assume Janice was probably absent from the show during March or Apr. From Feb 26, 1976

Lorie blamed Stuart and Jen for doting on Leslie and ignoring her as they were growing up. She was more jealous of the attention, support and fame Leslie got that Lorie felt she never had, plus add the fact that she now knew Stuart wasn't her father and she probably felt more on the outside.

It's the last mention of him in synopsis, he may have appeared again, but it seems doubtful

Yeah I wish we had seen more about Kay's motives in that scene. She spends the whole time admitting she was a drunk who slept with stable boys and makes Jill seem saintly. Then attacks her, of course everyone is on Jill's side. Seems so out of character for Kay. She never took responsibility for things with Phillip Also she seems almost scared to see Jill in that later scene when Jill comes to visit her

Julia mentions Jack coming to see her later on in a conversation. She says Jack was the one who lured her back to Genoa City though a job at Jabot. Jack did know her during her modelling days. He and Jill worked on Michael Scott and Julia Newman's ad campaign. There was some slight cross over with Jill getting very briefly involved with the Newman story, partly through work and partly through Eve.

I liked that they reused sets. Having Nikki and Kevin in her house she shared with Casey and Julia in Lorie's Penthouse. It also gave a connection to the past, no doubt Summer 82 was the end of the original Y&R and the transition to the new one. Does anyone know if the Abbott residence was first seen in Mar/Apr when Jack and Mamie are first together. I think it was Apr 1, 1982 or near there. Synopsis mentions Jack has an apartment in 1981 and I think most scenes pre-1982 took place there or at Jabot or Jill's place or other locations. I assume the scene of John finding Jack and Jill together in 1981 was just a hallway set. Like the recreation with Jerry Douglas in 1982. Also Jerry Douglas and Terry Lester's first and I think second scenes together are so good, like they've been working together for a while, rather than they just started, just such a natural flow. A little more uptight than later years, but still the chemistry and flow between them is solid. Was that a production goof during the scene between Nikki and Kevin when they are fighting after she comes home from The Bayou. Looks like the camera went too high and we saw above the set

Yeah she's too nice, but the scene where she comes back in the green outfit, I have another snippet (literally a few seconds) from that scene where she says something like "I have everything I want and you have nothing" just that snippet showed me she could still do the more wicked part of Jill as well. Too bad we didn't get that whole scene. Allison at the Bayou is hilarious.

They were mentioned in pre-press info as the other family in town, so this article probably got the info from there, they probably are mentioned early on but I don't think anyone is seen until June 1973. Robert Clarke who played Bruce Henderson didn't join until June 1973. Presumably when Liz is in hospital for surgery. It seems this kicks off the Jennifer/Bruce affair storyline as Bryna Laub's DSN mentions this in the Jan 74 synopsis.

Bruce doesn't even seem to be involved in finding out Lorie is his daughter either. He takes off after Jennifer rejects him and is never seen again.

@SoapDope That's awesome, thanks for sharing, Ron Becker seems so nasty almost evil in the show, which makes his ending so horrifying. 1976 seems like such a dark and often morbid period of the show, slowly moving towards the gothic style Bell went for shortly after As a side note: I found this article. The reviewer seems to hate the show, but actually gives a synopsis for the Thursday March 29, 1973 episode, even though they hate it. So we have synopsis for at least 3 episode from week one, haha

The bigger issues was 1980. We start with a really silly story. Lance has become a compulsive gambler after being kicked out of Prentiss. Lorie is so concerned for him that she agrees to Vanessa's demands to divorce him, and Vanessa will give him back his position at Prentiss back. Lucas has decided he no longer wants to be with Prentiss and hands it over to Lance, but Vanessa tells Lorie it was her doing and convinces her (somehow) to go through with the divorce. Lance is stunned by the divorce and plans to fight, but instead decides Lorie is better off without him and leaves. This takes place over a month and a half. Lorie gave up everything she had been fighting for so easily. They brought in Michael Scott, but it went nowhere and he was shifted to Julia and Victor. Lorie and Victor become friends, but by this point JLB's pregnancy was showing and the show could do little with her. I said it before, but I really think John McCook may have left suddenly. Maybe he agreed to stay then changed his mind. Apparently they left the door open until the last minute when they were planning to bring Lance back the next year, but McCook had well and truly moved on and Dennis Cole was hired. I believe Troy Donohue may have been in contention too, or maybe it was someone else. When the show went to an hour, All My Children pulled out all the stops to challenge Y&R and won, Y&R dipped to 5th place that month. Leslie's amnesia story also seems like it fell flat, especially with how Lucas finds her and the whole Santa Leandro stuff. There seems to be no tension or build up. Lucas comes back to GC tells Lorie, she visits her sister, realises she has no memory of her past life and that's it until Leslie comes back to GC. Lance returns briefly, dates Lorie and then leaves again. No mention if he and Leslie even saw each other. I know Jon-Michael Reed didn't like the cult story. It does seem a bit weak, by August 1980 the show had dropped to about 12th overall in daytime and around 7th in soaps. This was as the cult story was rolling ahead and abouto climax in early september, August was also when JLB was already on maternity leave. Brenda Dickson was gone, Bond, even though she was good and Conboy and Bell liked her and Jon-Michael Reed liked her too didn't last long. Audiences didn't seem to warm to her. But as I stated before Bond said her agent was to blame, I am guessing Conboy had no time for any of it and was just being ruthless, since they had a show bleeding ratings. Bell barely got Jill up and running again before Bond was let go for Deborah and whatever happened with Brett Halsey, pushing back the John/Jill/Jack story to Fall. Then Halsey was apparently a dud in the role and was let go six months later, before the story had even gotten off the ground Lyn Topping was pregnant with twins and is MIA from about mid Feb to late April on maternity leave, then appears a handful of times through to Aug and then is gone until Mar 81. The Hoff is around every two months for a brief appearance only. Jaime Lyn Bauer was also pregnant and it was her second pregnancy and just as difficult on her as the first. Again she had to be wheeled to set each day and she left the show early as a result. Wesley Ann Pfenning stepped in for two weeks then Lorie was gone for a month and didn't really come back full time until Nov 80. Basically JLB was sidelined for in total half the year. Kay/Derek seems to have been pretty boring. After Brenda left the story morphed into Derek trying to take over Chancellor. Jeanne was out with an injury for several weeks, the story picked up more in the summer and got a bit stronger once Kay jumped overboard and was rescued by Felipe All this plus Bell was trying to adapt to a format (1hr) that he didn't like. Characters were coming and going and he didn't have the established cast to fall back on so much. I guess Bell really needed to recover from 1980 and I feel he did start to get back to things in 1981, but it just took another year or so to get really back on track.