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Gotta say, I don't think there is an actress in daytime who sold sex and seduction better than Lynn Herring. It was just effortless. 

I keep thinking of other actresses that could do this scene justice and deliver it without it coming off as forced or cheesy or cringe and I'm coming up blank. 

I know one of her Emmy nominations came from a seduction scene - it was deserved.

18 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

Love Flannery, but I’ve always found those Big Bear scenes extremely over the top, and the undertones even a bit disturbing....

 

At times, it felt like Stephanie was going to rape Brooke...

I agree. Flannery was always a pro but I vehemently hated the direction they took Stephanie - an unnecessarily violent villain and eventual rape facilitator. It absolutely ruined the character. 

1 hour ago, soapfan770 said:

 

Worse is a year later Stephanie hired a sleazy man to seduce Brooke but the guy ended up raping Brooke instead, this right after Ridge and Brooke had that trashy “too sleepy from medications” sex story. 

They basically turned Stephanie into a rape facilitator to prop Brooke and Ridge. Having Stephanie tell him "don't take no for an answer" was so over the top and disgusting.

I have no idea how Flannery stayed on that show as long as she did. 

3 minutes ago, ChickenNuggetz92 said:

Would Gina Tognoni have been able to submit this year? I thought the scenes leading up to her departure were Emmy-worthy and I'm kind of disappointed her name didn't show up (also would have been a great way to stick it to the execs at Y&R for letting her go in favour of Michelle Stafford).

I don't think she would have submitted. I agree she would have been deserving but I highly doubt she submitted. 

15 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

ATWT: Lisa & Barbara, Carly & Molly, and even though I really came to hate Katie, early Henry & Katie were superb.

 

B&B: Sally & Lauren, Sally & Darla, Stephanie & Taylor

 

GL: Vanessa & Maureen

AW: Cass & Felicia, Rachel & Felicia 

 

Y&R: Katherine & Nikki, Rex & Jill, Nina & Christine, Ashley & Olivia

 

Katherine and Nikki drove me nuts. Maybe if Katherine wasn't always so pro-Victor I would have found them easier to tolerate but the way she shoved Nikki towards Victor and encouraged her to forgive him of any and everything was exhausting. 

I just find these embarrassing now. It feels a little "please put these out of their misery."

I can't even be happy when deserving actors get nominated because the competition is so scarce and limited.

On Monday, May 25, Los Angeles Dodgers player Enrique Hernandez makes an appearance at the invitation of Rick Forrester (Jacob Young), who aims to make love Maya Avant (Karla Mosley)'s dreams come true. This episode first aired on September 12, 2016.

On Tuesday, May 26, R&B superstar Usher guests as Amber Moore (Adrienne Frantz)'s fling (and possible father of her child!) Raymond. Usher croons a tune at Insomnia Cafe (remember Insomnia?!), but bumps heads with Amber's then-boyfriend C.J. Garrison (Mick Cain). Lauren Fenmore dishes to C.J.'s mom, Sally (Darlene Conley), that Eric Forrester (John McCook) and Stephanie Douglas Forrester (Susan Flannery) are done-zo. This episode first aired on June 11, 1998.

On Wednesday, May 27, Betty White pops up as Ann Douglas, who spars with daughters Stephanie and Pam (Alley Mills). Stephanie is furious that Ann, who turned a blind eye to her husband abusing her eldest daughter, does not want to return to Chicago. Meanwhile, Eric and Pam grow closer. This episode first aired on February 27, 2007.

On Thursday, May 28, Gina Rodriguez joins Forrester Creations as intern Beverly, who catches Rick's eye. Rick's ex Amber warns Beverly away from her former beau. In Mexico, another of Rick's exes, Steffy Forrester (Jacqueline MacInnes Wood), urges brother Thomas (Adam Gregory) to keep Rick's sister Hope (Kim Matula) away from Liam Spencer (Scott Clifton). This episode first aired on December 28, 2011.

On Friday, May 29, former Let's Make a Deal host Bob Barker interrupts an argument between Liam and Wyatt Spencer (Darin Brooks). Barker bonds with Liam, while Wyatt makes a poor first impression on the game show legend, who plays himself...Barker then sucker punches Wyatt in the face! This episode first aired on August 28, 2014.

I can't believe this is what they chose for the next theme week. This show could not be more of a flop if they tried. Jesus. 

Read the thread:

I have a lot of issues with soaps these days but one of my biggest gripes is how anticlimactic and flat a lot of the big reveals and confrontations are - particulary for stories that some soaps spend months or even a year building (the horrid baby switch reveal on GH that was just a lot of Carly yammering on comes to mind). What a terrible, boring reveal for a story that lasted an eternity. 

I was just watching the scene below and thinking (despite the distracting music) that I can't remember the last time I really anticipated a big soap reveal or confrontation and it lived up to or exceeded my expectations or made me feel the way this scene does:

What do you think have been some of the best confrontations on soaps? And are there any recent ones you actually liked?

3 minutes ago, BoldRestless said:

 

It's an accomplishment considering what's going on! 

 

They'll probably rush through filming when they get back and it will be really crappy lol...

Who would know the difference? 

1995 was a down year for both Y&R and B&B. Decent year for GH though

So no episode from the HIV story from Winters week? Does that seem wrong to anyone else? 

1 hour ago, Faulkner said:

I was curious if Jon Hamm had any daytime credits (as a jobbing actor who had been kicking around the industry before his Don Draper break, it wouldn’t have surprised me). But I can’t find any. I thought he might have been there to bolster the idea that even a “prestige” drama series like Mad Men was basically a soap, but they didn’t make anything of it. Maybe he was friends with one of the producers? He seems up for anything. Who knows.

 

I chalked a lot of the Agnes Nixon focus and Bill Bell erasure to the fact that she was ABC. Plus, thematically, she followed the “shows for women, by women” theme.

An odd thing to focus on while failing to mention that not a single soap currently on the air has a woman HW or EP. 

On 5/15/2020 at 2:41 AM, Aback said:

 

Yeah I don't understand how that makes financial sense? Maybe it's because soaps don't have reruns?

How many people are on the show? Does the show tape for just 3 months? That's a lot less money than a soap that tapes year round (meaning you have to pay crew year round) and has a contract cast of 25+ people.

Gotta do a cost benefit analysis. Are the ratings and demos for soaps good enough to justify how much they cost to produce annually? 

1 hour ago, Dion said:

I wonder if they would have killed Ridge off had Susan Flannery not decided to leave at roughly the same time as Ronn Moss.

I don't know, the way Brad Bell spoke it seemed like he was always pretty gung ho on recasting Ridge. Ronn and his wife made it VERY CLEAR how they would feel about recasting Ridge and Brad did it anyway. 

30 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

 

 

 

Lol I suppose that rumor of Moss being digitally removed in favor of Kaye not happening is impressive. And yes, Moss got terribly lazy and got even worse in the 00’s. He was like B&B’s version of Drake Hogestyn, except worse!

I think these two episodes are probably the best I've seen from Moss.

The first clip is one of the few times I have actually seen him be able to actually squeeze out some real tears smh

17 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

Brad Bell has never had any talent and has coasted on his family name for years. Whatever he would have brought would have been short term and unsustainable.

This. Brad and JFP and Sussman and JFP both would have been dreadful. Brad has no talent and is only where he is because of nepotism and Sussman is the most boring writer on the planet. 

Hey everyone, great news! Nikki N got back to me and said she has full episodes that she will put on the Onedrive (I gave her the link). She said she has a ton from 1993 that she will share. 

The only issue is the episodes are in a vault or stored away somewhere and it might be a month before she can get to it because of COVID-19

6 hours ago, LuckyBold said:

Are they from Nikki N's channel? Those seem like the clips taken from the full episodes, but unfortunately Nikki N repeatedly commented that their uploading only clips of Taylor, not the full episodes. It's a shame, because it seems the person has quite a collection, especially from 1993-1995. 

Yes it seems so. I assume she has entire episodes because she seems to have almost every Ridge/Taylor scene - especially from 92-97 or so. Unless she found someone who does Taylor and Ridge edits? 

I sent her a note on YT, sometimes she responds. Hopefully she has some full episodes she's willing to contribute to the vault. 

I still wish we had dates for those clips. There are so many, would love to see them in some kind of order

I see that all of those Taylor and Ridge clips that were put on You Tube are being put into the OneDrive.

Does anyone know the dates of any of those clips (especially the stuff before 1996)? They all seem to be labeled weird as hell but there's a lot of stuff there. 

Yikes at B&B's numbers though....

8 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I wonder who makes the final decision on what episodes to air. Is it CBS or is it the Bells? Brad probably has an obsession with Hope/Liam/Steffy, so I thought the wedding week was his idea but is he the one who chose to air the Ridge/Brooke and Eric/Brooke weddings too?

Pretty sure it's all Brad Bell

6 hours ago, KristinG79 said:

I have some episodes from 1999 to 2002 that I can upload if you want them. These have subtitles though, and I don't know the episode numbers or the original air dates (are those important?).

Yes please! I have been looking for 1999 and 2000 especially! 

2 minutes ago, Michele Soap Writer said:

 

Oh wow, they are the same age? She just feels older in some way. Not that she has aged skin, but yet she just looks and feels older

I feel like for the most part this week they picked TERRIBLE Victor and Nikki episodes. Not any of their weddings? Hell they can do an entire week of each Victor/Nikki wedding. surely they have married each other at least 5 times?

Honestly weddings are boring. Unless someone gets shot at one, I would rather they not. 

But I agree the Nikki and Victor episodes have largely sucked (still better than anything B&B has done)

The same person who does the Taylor and Ridge clips for B&B is clipping Kevin and Lucy's story from the time they met.