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18 hours ago, YRBB said:

Their choices continue to suck. Just stop trying to tie it in to current characters and give us the good, classic stuff!

Their choices are so terrible. Dreadful. 

Just now, soapfan770 said:

Alex was so regal as Diane; Sandra was great as Phyllis, she’s the same age as Stafford so I don’t find her old and she brought her own fierceness to the role. Her and Michael were so much fun together. 
 

Jill and Katherine are definitely tHe highlight of the episode loved how their feud was heating back up again at this time. 

Agree. Also Sandra Nelson never felt like a clown to me the way Stafford often does. Some of her and Michael's antics were OTT but she never felt like a straight up joke. 

Alex was the only Diane IMO.  

20 hours ago, Chris B said:

I think this upcoming week is a good mix of episodes. I’m glad 3 are from before 2000. I don’t mind the two later episodes because they’re giving us a good balance. I think that’s fair. If they keeep peppering in older episodes I’ll settle for two modern episodes a week. 
 

Also, Toups posted the ratings and I was stunned that Y&R is still#1 with a week of repeats that are so old. If this doesn’t tell them this stuff should be streaming then they simply don’t care. The value and demand is clearly there. 

This is honestly a weird view because of the extenuating circumstances. I have found the ratings for all the soaps during this pandemic pretty awful. People are FORCED to stay home. Nobody is working, stay at home orders are in place in almost every state but a few - and even when soaps were showing new episodes ratings were down from the previous year. 

Meanwhile, cheaper to produce talk shows are able to provide new content during the entire pandemic and a lot of them are seeing better ratings than they have in years. 

I get being optimistic, but when people actually go back to work and things are back to normal, what is the expectation for soap viewership? People were shut in and forced to stay home and still not watching soaps in signigicantly large or increased numbers. 

35 minutes ago, sheilaforever said:

I LOVED the Princess Leila story. It was when I started watching B&B full-time after some occasional watching with my mom in earlier years. *Leaves this thread ashamed* LOL

LOL, I remember the story being quite popular so I don't think you're alone. 

If we're going to show stuff from the Princess Leila story, they can at least show the snake dance.....

Two Liam weddings? I can't! And LOL of course they're going to leave out quite possibly the most iconic B&B wedding of all time. Hilarious

Honestly, they could have kept this episode. It's nice seeing Victoria Rowell and Jeanne but....

I was about to complain cause I could do without seeing stuff from 2004 but its much better than what B&B and GH are doing. 

2 hours ago, Marquise said:

i am sure the uploader will do also 1998/1999/2000/2001 (most of it) since they were also on the German forum. The first half of 2002 was not on the forum and the uploader started from the middle, so probably he/she will upload what he/she has.

Thanks. 

Also looking at these clips and I remember how much I hated how much storylines cenetered around Rick and Bridget. It was overkill. I think if you're going to focus that much on childcharacters - the really young ones - the actors need to be really strong (a la Hayden Panettiere as Lizzie on GL)

Thanks for the link to the 1996 and 1997 German episodes. I really hope they do1999 and 2000 because those years are nearly impossible to find.

Also, watching this episode and WOW, Hunter leaving for Melrose seemed to have them scrambling to change the story (and Grant's intro was messy as hell - making out with Taylor, dating Michael, sleeping with Sheila - so odd). I read the show knew for a while that Hunter was fielding other offers and she was likely to leave - I can't fathom why they went so far with Grant/Taylor only to have her leave the next two weeks if they were given notice from Hunter.

I would really like to know what the plan would have been had she stayed. I don't think any of the arc would have happened with Ridge and Grant becoming friends and Grant and Brooke starting an emotional (and physical though they didn't have sex) affair behind his back. It's clear they just pivoted to Brooke after Hunter left. 

53 minutes ago, Errol said:

https://www.soapoperanetwork.com/2020/04/yr-to-re-air-victor-and-nikkis-first-wedding-from-1984

They have shown this episode sooo many times.

Well guys apparently the Canadian episode that aired today (they are a day ahead of the US) was an episode from 6 weeks ago.

So there seems to be some questions about whether or not a classic episode is actually airing tomorrow 

On 3/27/2020 at 5:43 PM, Antoyne said:

Do people still like the Brooke character anymore? She seems to be an awful person through and through. The last time I semi regularly watched B&B she was having an affair with Bill.

I used to love to hate her but now I just can't. The intense focus on her through the years is what caused me to quit. I don't think the character works as a lead, or as the type of heroine Brad Bell tries to write her as. She worked better when she had characters like Caroline, Taylor or Stephanie on the canvas - it wasn't just every story for everyone over 40 revolving around who Brooke is screwing. I don't buy this "turning her into Stephanie" thing. KKL seems nice but she doesn't have the chops for it. 

I enjoy Rena as Quinn from the little I have seen of her but the only time they give her any focus is when they want a foe for Brooke

27 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

Doug Davidson also confirmed on Twitter that they plan to show Paul and Christine's Honeymoon where Phyllis was causing trouble.

I am meh on that episode personally. It was a lot of Phyllis and Tim hijinx when they followed them to the Caribbean

The first episode supposedly airs Friday and it's an episode from 1991

1 hour ago, victoria foxton said:

Most of 1987 is on this channel.

 

I found 2/2/87. But it doesn't have any Lucy and Jake.  

 

Yeah I found that channel but it is missing the episode where they actually sleep together 

Does anyone know where I can find the February 2, 1987 episode? 

It's the episode where Jake and Lucy have an ONS. I have been looking for the actual scene everywhere, I'm still very confused as to how it happened. I know he was defending her when everyone felt she was a murderer but still the ONS seemed to come out of absolutely nowhere. 

Not surprised this show is down over 800,000 viewers from last year. 

8 hours ago, JamesF said:

It looks like they're working in the opposite direction - 2005 is patchy but they've uploaded pretty much everything from 2006 to date. A strange move but interesting development. I hold out hope we'll get more.

 

There's no geo blocking either which is a refreshing change.

I tried to watch these after watching the older stuff and I just can't. It's all so damn terrible. 

I have been rewatching the Morgan storyline since it's being uploaded and Sarah Buxton was better than I remember.  The story was nonsense though and insulting to the viewers intelligence - an email? He got an email from his wife telling him to sleep with someone else and he goes OK SURE! 

While Ronn IS Ridge, I really felt bad for his co-stars sometimes. It really had to be like acting opposite a brick wall. Everyone else always had to do all of the heavy lifting:

Not sure how but I kind of think they should have found a way to keep Buxton around. Also Morgan "killing" Taylor would have made more sense than Sheila doing it 2002

I was watching old episodes and I didn't remember this Tony and Lucy scene - it was jarring seeing him be this rough with her and it become borderline violent:

I also found the conversation they had the next day fascinating (Lynn Herring's vulnerability here is just great, rarely did we see that from Lucy and they never said much about her childhood prior to this I don't believe)

2 hours ago, DRW50 said:

 

KKL and Sean Kanan had so much chemistry together I didn't mind the story, but I do agree it was very corrosive. I think Brooke had already lost some of her depth before that point though - the whole Brooke's Bedroom story felt very silly and tacky to me. Bill Bell gave her more layers and respect. 

When B&B celebrated it's 8,000th episode, Parade Magazine asked him for his 8 favorite Bold and the Beautiful storylines EVER.

His answers told me everything I needed to know (and explained why he's such a terrible writer - who in their right mind would pick these):

https://parade.com/728784/dianareese/bradley-bell-shares-his-8-favorite-the-bold-and-the-beautiful-storylines-and-shockwaves-coming-in-8000th-episode/

1991: The wedding of Eric Forrester and Brooke Logan. 

1998: Brooke’s Bedroom. 

2010: Stephanie Forrester and the homeless. 

2011-2017: Steffy’s wedding entrances. 

2015-2016: Maya’s secret. 

2018: Who shot Bill Spencer? 

B&B - It absolutely positively was the Ridge/Bridget arc. B&B had always been somewhat trashy, but respectable trash. That turned it into something else. It went from guilty pleasure to cheap Jerry Spinger-esque junk. Ridge was never a great character but that effectively killed any appeal he once had as a romantic lead. It was also when it became crystal clear to me that the days of Bill Bell having any input or overseeing the direction of the show were completely gone. I know Bill Bell was not there in an official capacity, but from what everyone said he was still overseeing and giving some direction to B&B until he got sick (which I believe was around 2000-2001).

Y&R - The sperm saga. I like Kay Alden but I felt she was given too much of a pass for this story. To have not 1 (Nikki), not 2 (Ashley), but 3 (Diane) women fighting over Victor's sperm was uttrrly ridiculous. I HATED what it did to all three female characters and I think that story did irreparable damage to Ashley. We are still paying for that atrocious story today with all the Abby focus - a completely useless character that should have never existed. 

GL - Peapeck and Wheeler. 

GH - Opie's Opus. That was when the destruction of GH started; the fight over Michael and specifically Sonny snd Jason forcing AJ to give up his parentsl rights. That was the beginning of what become two atrocious decades of the mob and specfically Sonny and Jason ruling all and the show systematically destroying vet after vet after vet to make sure they looked good and righteous in every single story. 

I never got a chance to contribute to this thread and I'm up so a few of my favorites

Guiding Light - Vanessa reads Henry's letter.

Maeve Kinkead was just brilliant. I think pound for pound, the acting on Guiding Light was consistently a cut above the rest of the soaps. Other shows had better stories, better production value, but I always felt like there was such a massive emphasis put on letting performances really breathe. 

Guiding Light - Reva "pushes" Annie down the stairs

Annie Dutton will forever be one of my all time favorite soap villains. Cynthia was just brilliant and I was so 

Santa Barbara - Julia talks about her father's alcoholism

IMO it's one of the best performances Nancy Lee Grahn has ever given

OLTL - Kelly Confesses to Blair

And there's not nearly enough Lynn Herring in this thread

Hunter Tylo is basically on Twitter confirming why she won't return to B&B (seems she said she's not coming back to play a doormat or some bickering high schooler).  

I mean, I can't say I blame her. Why won't Brad just recast? The show is completely unrecognizable and nothing like the B&B of old anyway. Stephanie gone, Sally gone, Macy gone, Thorne recast, Taylor gone, new awful Ridge, Sheila gone, James gone, just recast and rename it 'The Logans' or some nonsense.

Why are full episodes from 1995 -1999 so hard to find? Was something happening during that time?

It's the same way for Y&R. I feel like finding full episodes from those years is incredibly difficult (I feel like I have been looking for the episodes where Veronica/Sarah shot Nikki for YEARS)

Randomly, I totally forgot that Grant Chambers first episode was him making out with Taylor until someone in the comment section of a YouTube video mentioned it. 

Was the original plan to put him with Taylor (before Hunter told them she was leaving for Melrose)? They never did anything with their connection and history did they?

Episode isn't in English, but you can still hear the dialogue pretty well underneath it