Vizion

17 minutes ago, charholden5 said:

I still prefer Colleen Dion over Lesli Kay. Nothing against Lesli, I just found her performance over the top sometimes.

Same. I also just liked how stylish Colleen Dion's Felicia looked, down to the haircut. I absolutely believed she worked in fashion. 

1 hour ago, BetterForgotten said:

Laura Wright is just playing a more shouty version of Cassie Layne. 

Totally agree. I honestly don't think any of the recasts have gotten Carly right. I pretty much went from her being one of my faves to not caring about her at all after Sarah left. 

19 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

Laura Wright can play Carly for 20 years, yet she'll never have the same impact in the role Sarah Brown had in 5 years. 

100% agreed. I don't like Laura's Carly at all. She plays her like an annoying soccer mom with very little depth, nuance or subtlety 

I have never yelled HARD PASS so fast in my life. Isn't almost every episode of this show dedicated to Sonny and Carly? Gross.

Monday, June 15, 2020: Episode 11232 (Original Air Date: 2/07/07)

Sonny and Carly re-declare their love during the Metro Court hostage crisis.

Tuesday, June 16, 2020 Episode 12898 (Original Air Date: 9/24/13)

Sonny has gone off his meds and begins to spiral. Carly convinces him to resume taking lithium.

Wednesday, June 17, 2020 Episode 13390 (Original Air Date: 9/14/15)

Sonny is in critical condition after being shot. Sitting vigil in the hospital chapel, Carly reads the vows he wrote for her and remembers their ups and downs.

Thursday, June 18, 2020 Episode 13412 (Original Air Date: 10/14/15)

Sonny and Carly get married in the GH chapel, surrounded by their loved ones.

Friday, June 19, 2020 Episode 13661 (Original Air Date: 10/12/16)

Grieving for Morgan (Bryan Craig), Carly blames Sonny for their son's death.

So nice to see a Spectra-centric episode with Felicia and Stephanie thrown in. The conversation between Sally and Stephanie was so fantastic. 

The more I see these episodes the more I realize that I will probably not like or watch this show regularly again.

Just great scenes between Nikki and Jack. Incredibly well acted and well written. 

Jill in this dress and hat is killing me! Great to see Dina as she used to be (the current illness story has gone on entirely too long)  

1 hour ago, kalbir said:

Hunter Tylo was stunning in the 1990s. No wonder she made People's Most Beautiful list twice in the 1990s. Sadly she ruined her looks with all that awful plastic surgery.

I don't really like commenting on this because it feels very gross to me but I think a lot of the decisions she made regarding plastic surgery were a direct result of some things that happened in her personal life including some mental breaks.  She clearly developed some type of body dysmorphic disorder.

Anyway, I have to say, I quit being a regular viewer of B&B an eternity ago but I was suprised at how great she looked here in 2008:

2 hours ago, Marquise said:

i love the Ridge and Taylor story may be becouse i was a Ridge and Taylor fan

Hunter was the reason I started watching too but also loved the Spectras and Flannery. 

Actually, I realized the other day that I really had no use for the men on the show. I only really tolerated Ridge because of Taylor. But I loved Taylor, Stephanie, Sally, Macy, Sheila, and later Amber - the male characters I could pretty much take or leave. 

Has this interview ever been posted?

Bill Bell and Claire Labine Interview from 1997

https://www.serialscoop.com/2014/07/bill-bell-claire-labine-on-writing.html?m=1

This episode is positively dreadful. 

1 hour ago, Soapsuds said:

Critically acclaimed maybe but not ratings rise. GL was constantly #8 soap in 1997. The comeback soaps in 1997 were ATWT and Days. ATWT numbers rebounded in the early part of 1997 with FMB coming in as EP. After that Days took the torch with Reilly HW.

I feel like the Annie Dutton story definitely helped GL in the ratings. I don't remember what they were but I remember it being pretty big. 

Interesting choices. I'm most excited about that Stephanie vs. Sally episode.

That 1995 episode - is that when Hunter was wearing that wig and using that terrible accent because nobody knew Taylor was alive yet?

34 minutes ago, OzFrog said:

 

I mentioned this on the 90s Ratings thread in the Cancelled Soaps group. Even as early as 1990 (three years into its run), B&B was hitting Top 5 in overall households, sometimes getting as high as #3 in 1991. And this was way before Sheila even crossed over from Y&R (incidentally 1990 was when that storyline was just starting on Y&R).

It wasn't just Sheila, it had a fantastic timeslot in most markets but Sheila crossing over was a big part of the show getting Y&R's audience and keeping them engaged. And considering the quality of content the show put out as the years progressed I have my doubts it would be where it is for as long as it has been without those two factors 

1 minute ago, Fevuh said:

I would love to see a NY produced soap again.  I always liked them more.  When GL and ATWT were good, they drew me in far more than Y&R and B&B.  

Honestly, I miss GL a bunch, particularly the quality of the performances on that show. It was always a notch above the rest from an acting standpoint and IMO this was even true as late as 2005. 

B&B likely wouldn't be where it is (or even on the air) without the timeslot and the Sheila crossover, lets be honest. 

I loved the idea of Generations but I agree that Sussman ain't it. One of the genre's most boring writers 

Has anyone put the last two episodes on the OneDrive?

2 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Do you get direction from the network?

Not really. The vision for B&B is the other writers — Jack Smith and Teresa Zimmerman — and myself. Also, my father [who serves as B&B's Executive Story Consultant]. So, yes, the show is really our vision coming straight from the writing staff with no interference from CBS. I can't tell you how grateful I am to [the network] for having the discipline and the faith in us to let us tell story the way we tell it. Everyone from [CBS Entertainment President] Les Moonves and [Sr. Vice President of Daytime] Lucy Johnson have been wonderful in respecting us. They know we won't go too far in terms of bad taste, too much violence, or things that are too sexually explicit. They know that that's not our style.

 

LOL this appears to be a clear case of Bill Bell's vision still somewhat being THE vision for the show. Because what is quoted above is NOT Bradley at all. He LOVES and LIVES FOR the trash and sleaze. 

He clearly says he still gets story direction from his father, it seems as though this interview is more about his father's vision than his IMO. The man who wrote Deacon/Brooke and Ridge/Bridget saying going too far in terms of bad taste and sexually explicit content is not B&B?  Didn't the Forrester family listen to Deacon having sex with Bridget and her losing her virginity over the phone? 

1 hour ago, sheilaforever said:

I think she voiced her discontent with the story but apart from that is surely Fanboy BS.

La Flannery had her summer holidays in August (?) for several years with Stephanie being off the canvas for roughly 3 weeks ever since 2006 (?)...

Ok thanks! 

8 minutes ago, Darn said:

 

Christian LeBlanc is off contract?

I thought he was? Aren't both him and Tracey recurring? 

Why has Cricket been in every classic episode?

And they could have skipped this Isabella episode it mainly focused on characters no longer on the show (Raul, Brittany, Bobby) or ones no longer on contract (Christine, Paul, Michael)

1 hour ago, Aback said:

 

She just decided overnight that she was still in love with Ridge. Thorne overheard Brooke confiding in Megan. And that was it. They were over.

 

I was so disappointed. Brooke and Thorne were my favorite couple on the show. 

 It was completely stupid and out of the blue. There was no actual reason to break up Thorne and Brooke except that Brad Bell is forever creatively bankrupt. 

Question, I just read on social that Flannery protested the Andy story, in fact she was so pissed about it she took a leave from the show (which they claimed was medical) - does anyone know if that is true? If so, I don't blame her at all. I had long quit the show by then but I knew the general story points. 

I forgot RJ existed tbh.

Brad is so awful. He seems to think Brooke's only relevant child is Hope. He never had any interest in RJ and hasn't cared about Bridget in years and Jacob Young is off contract isn't he? 

10 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

Leave it to Thudley to randomly create

a major plot twist of “Massimo is Ridge’s father!!!” and have it be completely forgotten about almost 20 years later.

Do they EVER mention Massimo? Or the fact that Ridge is not Eric's son? 

It seemed like once all of the Marone's left that was all forgotten and never mentioned

I quit watching the show regularly like 20 years ago tbh

11 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

I read about that stuff and it really left a bad taste in my mouth, especially since Taylor was in on it too, or at least kept quiet on what Stephanie and Massimo were up too...I get Brooke who was newly single went after Ridge again, but I still think they all did her dirty. 

 

Massimo and Stephanie put the plan in motion and then told Taylor after they did it but she kept the secret because before that Brooke had told Taylor she was going to take her family and her kids (basically). Brooke was even planning creepy play dates with Thomas so I couldn't blame Taylor for wanting her gone even though the plan went too far. Ridge went off on Taylor when he found out the truth, Brooke thought he would leave Taylor over it but he told her it wasn't happening and Ridge and Taylor got back together. 

It seemed mainly to be a setup for Ridge/Massimo conflict for the big dumb reveal that Massimo was Ridge's father (what was ever the point in that).

On 5/22/2020 at 11:30 AM, YRfan23 said:

Didn’t Massimo always have a problem with Brooke? It was because of him she fell out of the Eiffel Tower right? 
 

the 1998 episode sounds promising although I could give two hoots about Usher....i wonder how much his residual check is worth??

Yeah he had issues with Brooke from the second he came on the show. His first story was teaming up with Stephanie to make Brooke think her father was dying so Brooke would leave town permanently. They paid off Stephen to pretend he was dying.