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50 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Even though I know it was sexy for its time and lushly produced, it still reads to me as old fashioned soap.  I’m not slamming that at all.  I see a kindred spirit and not evolution between Bill Bell here and Bill Bell on DAYS.  But by the late 1980’s to around 1992, I think his style evolved a lot, as did the look of the entire show.  That lush thing was turned up.  The drama and intrigue was turned up.  Not campy, just dialed up.  I’ve posted before about finding many of Bill Bell’s characters kind of cold, aloof.  That does not seem to be the case in his earlier show.

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I actually agree with you. It's not the lushly produced soap that we would see later in the 80s, or what some have described Y&R as being under John Conboy. Watching episodes of other soaps around the time this aired, it's interesting how it compares to AMC and GL at the time. I guess many of the changes that occurred during the last half of the 80s were mostly due to Wesley Kenney and later continued by Ed Scott. 
 

And H.R. McMaster is outta here.....

9 hours ago, Khan said:

 

I read somewhere (maybe in his memoir?) that Harding Lemay would do something similar on ANOTHER WORLD, but with the expressed intention of having one storyline or scene serve as a counter-point to the other.  Nothing that I have seen on this show (and I will admit, I FF sometimes, because some of their [!@#$%^&*] is just too unbearable) suggests to me that the Pollocks had similar intentions with their material.  We didn't see Mike and Karen commiserate over their similar, custody-related dilemmas.  We didn't see Alan and Stacy get blotto and end up in bed because they're still hung up on their exes.  We didn't see Ann and Stacy bond and decide to get over their sexual hangups by knowingly seducing the same man (on different nights, of course, or even on the same night, in some sort of envelope-pushing threesome).

 

It's just lazy, irresponsible storytelling.

Yup this is what I agree with.

I can't help but to think having Allen Potter as EP somewhat helped to make the Pollocks writing a bit better than it was under Stuart. 

The Pollocks are gone, I'm a bit sad, but also happy at the same time. Farewell to repetitive triangles where the third party turns out to be a total nutcase. But I'll miss the stability they provided the show with. 

Looking forward to DePriest, Marland, and Chuck Weiss's tenure. 

I have to say Toni's characterization these days is all over the map. 

Heck even this Gabby/Liv storyline is being used *at the moment* to prop up a Dingle and have the whole family gang up on a much more smaller family. It's ridiculous. 

In my off and on viewing, I will say that I like where they are taking Rebecca's character these days and that the car crash that took the lives of Lawrence and Chrissy is being shown to have a lasting impact. I just hate that I have this tiny feeling that the TPTB will use Rebecca's mental instability to make sure Robron will have Sebastian. 

I'm already feeling as if Emmerdale is not giving this Ross storyline the justice it deserves, with the repetitive scenes of Ross being visited by the police. 

15 minutes ago, danfling said:

Wasn't Billy murdered?  I know that Judith Howard (Judy Collins) was giving condolences to David O'Brien's character after someone had died.

 

Yes, he was murdered and there was bit of a mystery surrounding his death. I think it was a major mistake to kill off another Aldrich(of course he's not Aldrich by blood). 

I'm liking the slow burn of Mike's return to Madison. For all their faults, I think the Pollocks were masters at build up. 

Isn't much of what we are currently seeing (or 76?) around the same time ratings were declining? Having done some reading much of the expansion of other soaps had some effect on TD's ratings. Later on many of the cast changes, a revolving door of writers, and later on time slot changes put the final nail in the coffin. 

The only team I'm willing to believe that might have formulated a bible would probably be Culliton/Tomlin. 

Never thought I'd be this interested in Tom and Althea, but I am. The miracle of miracles. 

Yay Penny is back!

What's even more ridiculous is that Pam Long had worked with Paul Rauch on SB, and I honestly don't believe he bothered to ask her to return to GL. 

1984...back when the show was seemingly firing on all four cylinders. GL was at its best IMO when much of the drama was taking place at or around Cedars. 

Sucks that we're losing the actor that plays Lachlan, as he's quite talented. I hope he turns up somewhere else very soon. 

Rita should've returned with a adult son, who's paternity could've been a toss up between Alan or Ed.

Wished they would have brought back James Tate. But this was a decent twist, I wonder if somewhere down the line we'll get to see Zoe. 

18 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I'm so far behind on this show and to be honest I don't even really want to catch up...

Why is that?

Watching the fallout after Toni and Alan's wedding, particular how it's impacting Greta is PURE CAMP!  LOL I can't help to think that some of the Pollack's writing must have influenced JER somehow lol

Matt/Maggie and Greta are perhaps the only part of the show I'm enjoying. 
 

Yeah that's what I'd like to believe too. Sigh..

Why did the Dems allow for a extension on the budget debacle, instead of playing on the threat of a govt shutdown?

5 hours ago, SFK said:

So Greta is Maggie's daughter from a previous marriage or is she Matt's?  Mike is Matt's from a previous marriage, he isn't Maggie's biological son, right?  And Toni affectionately refers to Matt as dad because he was her father in law?

Yes to all three questions.

On 12/10/2017 at 11:22 PM, juppiter said:

You will justify all this in your mind and say Drumpf is really, truly, different, but I can tell you it is not the case. Obama was President for half the country. He was more than happy to rule by Executive Order, bypassing congress. Drumpf is now president and he is getting the exact same criticism the Tea Party lobbed at Obama.

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Putting aside all the points you listed, don’t you just think it’s a bit jarring, unlike any president before him, the way Trump personally attacks private citizens both before and after the election?

During the election you have him advising his followers to look into the past of a particular Miss Universe for a sex tape. When he became president, you have him calling private citizens S.O.B.’s, demanding others to be fired from their jobs, or just recently labeling one as “dumb”. Most notably you have him going after the families of two fallen soldiers. He even politicized the act of presidents contacting families of fallen soldiers by claiming Obama rarely did it, then in a complete 180 claiming someone told him this. The list goes on and on…

I’m not going to shout you down, something that you state has happened on numerous occasions when you’ve made similar comparisons in the past, but I am seriously puzzled when faced with what I have listed above, that the left’s criticism of Trump is still somehow considered as being the same when the roles were reversed for the last 8 years.

With news of this travel ban being approved by the courts, the ruling that apparently Same Sex Couples aren't entitled to benefits, I'm just numb to how low this country can sink under 45.

16 hours ago, DRW50 said:

It's going to get even worse with Corrie, as

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David is going to be raped, and Gemma is going to go out with a man who dates her solely to embarrass and humiliate her so he can win a bet. Kate Oates is drowning the show in shock value, trashy stories passed off as social commentary. That's way too many members of one family being sexually assaulted, it's overkill. And I don't trust her after the Alicia story.

 

Ugh. It's just filled with too much misery and sadness for shock value.

I've gone from really loving KO's Coronation Street to really hating it. Mary and this ridiculous storyline. Anna/Phelan/Faye/Seb bs. Gary's affair. Now this nonsense with Billy and his past. The show has gone off the rails and I find myself not closely following any of the UK soaps these days. 

Good riddance