This is the Presidential Campaign Thread.

Barack Obama Vs. John McCain.

Edited November 6, 200817 yr by Toups

No, she doesn't.

Don't be SO sure.

The peeps from FL and MI aren't even looking for the results to be counted so i'm not sure what your saying.

The only person looking for Hillary's results (Which Obama would sue over) to be counted is Hillary!

It's just not going to happen to will be split right down the middle ir halfed!

THis whole thing about Obama (Who's winning) to be Hillary's runningmate is NEVER going to happend!

There;s noway the Drms are going to let this be decided by a back room deal.

They would lose many many Black and young voters FOREVER!

Lie much. Many people in FL and MI want their votes counted, saying they don't is stupid and absurd. Many want MI & FL counted. There's a petition to the DNC regarding that btw. You nor I or anyone else knows how the MI & FL delegates are going to be counted, whether they're gonna be split down the middle of halfed (which is the SAME thing btw, lol). Obama being Hillary's running mate or vice versa will VERY LIKELY HAPPEN . Some votes could be losted but NOT many and MOST DEFINIELY NOT forever.

Well, some don't see it that way.

They think that we all will still vote for her even though she lost the primaries.

If she did get it that way.......some people are in for a VERY rude awakening.

Roman if people who think like you don't vote for Hillary if she ends up being the Democrat nominee, then you're voting for McCain even if you don't vote at all. BTW, Hillary did NOT lose the primaries, she's won some, Obama's won some. SIMPLE. The Democrat party needs to support and vote for whomever the nominee is. I intened to so whether the nominee is Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama. Anyone who cares about this country should do the same. I think it is wrong to just vote for Hillary because she's white or a woman, or to vote for Barack because he's a man or African-African, but that's what some are doing.

Edited May 20, 200817 yr by Mulder

Lie much. Many people in FL and MI want their votes counted, saying they don't is stupid and absurd. Many want MI & FL counted. There's a petition to the DNC regarding that btw.

You are right here...I have seen the petition and signed it because now I think it would be smart to count the votes since, if we don't, odds are both MI and FL go Republican this November...that is not a risk we should take.

I don't see the votes being halfed because that says one half is more superior to be seated and the other isn't so that would be unfair to the half that is not counted...I cannot see them distributing them equally since he would be ahead by the same amount so what is the point. I don't see the ban being accepted since the meeting with the rules committee would be pointless.

Don't be SO sure.

Lie much. Many people in FL and MI want their votes counted, saying they don't is stupid and absurd. Many want MI & FL counted. There's a petition to the DNC regarding that btw. You nor I or anyone else knows how the MI & FL delegates are going to be counted, whether they're gonna be split down the middle of halfed (which is the SAME thing btw, lol). Obama being Hillary's running mate or vice versa will VERY LIKELY HAPPEN . Some votes could be losted but NOT many and MOST DEFINIELY NOT forever.

I'm not sure. I'm positive.

You are right here...I have seen the petition and signed it because now I think it would be smart to count the votes since, if we don't, odds are both MI and FL go Republican this November...that is not a risk we should take.

I don't see the votes being halfed because that says one half is more superior to be seated and the other isn't so that would be unfair to the half that is not counted...I cannot see them distributing them equally since he would be ahead by the same amount so what is the point. I don't see the ban being accepted since the meeting with the rules committee would be pointless.

Then none of them should be seated.

He shouldn't be penalized for having honor. He kept his word, she didn't., but he should be messed over while she benifits?

BS.

He took his name off the Michigan ballot but not the Florida one...that does not make sense. I see an agreement being made because, if there is not one, what would be the point of the meeting with the DNC?

I think it would be smart to seat MI and FL now so as not to risk them going red/Republican in November

Edited May 20, 200817 yr by DevotedToAMC

He took his name off the Michigan ballot but not the Florida one...that does not make sense. I see an agreement being made because, if there is not one, what would be the point of the meeting with the DNC?

I think it would be smart to seat MI and FL now so as not to risk them going red/Republican in November

Dude, he took his name off after he signed that agreement.

You know, I tried to be down the middle on this, but you want her to get delegates she herself said should not be seated when she signed that agreement.

I now agree with the others wholeheartedly. NONE of them should be seated if this is the game that will be played.

Period.

Right she said they should not be seated and then she changed her mind...she can do that along with anyone else. I think it is only fair they be seated and the popular vote be counted (I see them counting the popular vote, which she would then be in the lead).

They agreed to not seat them but there can be a new agreement...they did not have as a stipulation that their names should be off the ballot. That is Obama's fault that he did not put his name on the ballot

Whatever.

She flip-flopped just like the current president we have. Which means she won'yt keep her word just like he doesn't keep his.

You've made your point clear, Devoted. No matter what, by hook or crook, she should have the nom.

If she gets MI and FL seated, with Obama's agreement, then yes she should get the nomination

If we don't seat them, we risk losing both states to the Republicans in November

Edited May 20, 200817 yr by DevotedToAMC

Glad you made that clear.

Then say hello to John McCain, your next president.

Every Obama supporter will stay at home. You want Hillary so bad, you can have her.

Guess I have to get used to saying President McCain.

John McCain won't win if Obama is on the ticket with her...they are both beating him in polls so it makes sense to make them the ticket. That way, no Democrat from MI and FL votes Republican and no Obama supporter stays home

Oh, no, no, no.

Find some other running mate for her. Hell DAMN no.

You screw him out of the nom, and expect him to now play second fiddle?

No. This is your idea, so she can do it withut him. You are the one saying she is the much stronger candidate, so she won't need him.

I think she would need him since there will be some upset if they seat MI and FL. If they are seated or unseated, some people will be upset. The way to NOT upset them is allowing them to be seated and putting him on as VP. He would not be screwed over anything if he agrees to it. For the sake of the party and a win, he should agree to it so we don't lose MI and FL

Edited May 20, 200817 yr by DevotedToAMC

Then the Party should lose both states.

That's offensive.

The person who did what he was supposed to do gets screwed, then HE has to bow down like a good boy and be happy to be VP.

After HE BEAT HER!

Shockingly offensive.

No. You are the one saying she can do this much better than him. He should not be on the ticket. No way in hell.

You tell me this...who should be screwed? Obama out of the presidency when he can be in The White House as vice president or the million plus people who voted in both states?

I don't want us to lose both states because they are critical...it is not a risk to take. In order to not take the risk, seat the delegates and, to avoid uproar with Obama's second place finish, put him on as VP so those people will still vote

You tell me this...who should be screwed? Obama out of the presidency when he can be in The White House as vice president or the million plus people who voted in both states?

I don't want us to lose both states because they are critical...it is not a risk to take. In order to not take the risk, seat the delegates and, to avoid uproar with Obama's second place finish, put him on as VP so those people will still vote

Man, whatever.

You are making this bed. Hope you can lay in it.