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Samantha’s storyline makes me really uncomfortable. For a show that claims to be so feminist and progressive, this feels straight out of the 1950s. She’s 16 and craving intimacy. She gets caught with a boy (mind you, her own age!) almost using protection—which, in my book, is a good thing! Instead, she’s reprimanded and humiliated in front of him, as if some sacred boundary had been violated. Ugh. She wanted it just as much as he did. All of my points were literally voiced by Samantha, but they were treated as “social justice warrior” propaganda and quickly brushed off—even by the show’s supposed heroine, Nicole. It’s all so puritanical, misogynistic, and frankly vile. And now they’re trying to rationalize the whole thing by throwing Nathan under the bus, making him brag about his “conquest” to his friends. But here’s the truth: Women talk about their hookups (and the size/performance) all the time. Even if Nathan is talking about it—who cares? It’s not a crime to have sex. Samantha shouldn’t be made to feel ashamed, period. And meanwhile, you’ve got the two most heteronormative gay characters acting all high and mighty as if they weren’t ram**ng their b**ts every night Oh, and obviously no one cares if Tyrell kisses or has sex with his girlfriend—because he’s a boy, and apparently boys don’t get hurt. No trauma there. Excuse my language, but this is just sickening. P.S. I’m convinced it’s now an inside joke that Rowena is nowhere to be found. PPS. I hate how you have so many offscreen characters being mentioned all the time. Yolanda, Deanna, Luke… that’s very Josh Griffith-y of MVJ and that’s not a compliment.

What makes a breakdown standout? The only thing I can think of is when the flow of the show gains momentum till the last cliffhanger. That's a good breakdown in my book. Ugh I find it ugly and bland. LOL at the silhouettes in the background making up for the extras!

I agree. She's so entitled. I feel the same. I'm like 'ok what's this week's shocking twist'? I'd rather follow a story from A to B but so far they haven't really had 'storylines', apart from the initial Leslie story. They've just had multiple events happening and the aftermath in-between. LMAO I thought the same thing. Glad I'm not the only one finding that comparison highly problematic. Big agree. Want to be edgy? Have Jacob fall for Smitty. Have Naomi get an abortion and take no prisoners. You get my point. A couple of things I wanted to point out: - Hayley's story is being played for camp, I assume; - is it me or you can tell Tracey Thomson's impact already? Friday's show had different camera angles and a different vibe altogether. They had more background music... I liked it. - for the life of me I don't get what the problem is with Samantha having a sexual life. She'll be in college in a couple of yeas. Sooner or later she ought to have sex. So? Why are her parents worrying so much? For a show that proclaims to be so edgy, feminist, sex-positive and progressive, the way they're worrying about Samantha's verginity seems straight out of a '50s show. Especially considering that nobody is worrying at all about her brother Tyrell's sexual life, let alone virginity. Double standard much? Just educate the girl about contraception, STDs and sex versus feelings and let her begin her sexual life like any normal human being!

The triangle sucked with Hayley in it because they did not develop her. They did not develop her because they were waiting to 'shock' us 8 months into the show. You see, it's a catch-22 situation. Oh yes. The elevator baby delivery? The wheelchair guy? It's straight outta the 80s. MVJ was given a show to create 40 years too late. Now, if Naomi were allowed to have a non-traumatic abortion, or if Jacob were allowed to explore his sexuality beyond the heteronormative rules... that would be modern. Ditto. And I just realized, everyone has 2 children. Vernon and Anita have 2 children. Dani and Bill have 2 children. Nicole and Ted have 2 children. Martin and Smitty have 2 children. Vanessa and Doug have 2 children. Elon has two children lol Most of these children are unnecessary and it's no coincidence that the show can't keep track of all the relationships, reactions and beats. Then you have a non-entity like Jan who has 1 child and then you also have Leslie, who possibly foreshadowed expecting another child of Ted's 😅 It made me realize how hard it is to have a supercouple these days when the hottest thing they can do is have dinner in a hotel room... I'd argue that you're enjoying the show precisely because you took a break from it

I hate to be that person, but this Hayley reveal is silly, repetitive, and counterproductive. Unpopular opinion: leaving breadcrumbs left and right and then picking them up after months (and possibly wrapping it up in 2 weeks, cause we know the show is notorious for skipping beats) IS NOT telling a story. In less than a year, we’ve had countless foes infiltrating the Dupree clan—Leslie, Kenny, Alison, and now Hayley. At this point, the show is basically a “Who’s threatening the Duprees this week?” gimmick. It’s lazy writing. Oh and I can’t wait to find out Hayley’s real name, because let’s be honest—this show is obsessed with aliases. We’ve had Dana/Leslie, Sammy/Randy (completely pointless), Samantha and Tyrell had different names, and I’m sure I’m forgetting more. I do think the twist was planned from the start (which explains why Hayley never had a real “talk-to”), but it completely writes her into a corner. It ruins the fun of the triangle—it’s not a love triangle anymore, it’s just another villain vs. good guys setup. And in this economy, who commits to a multi-year con like this? There are a thousand easier, less demanding scams. Also, Randy was supposedly one of the good guys, which is why Doug and Vanessa even took him in. As for the rest of the show: - This show has a weird gambling fixation. There’s the Golden Corral, the Dupree family literally placing bets on Ted’s marriage, Dani getting married in Vegas, Joey offering Donnell a job at the Golden Corral… It’s bizarre. - A few weeks ago, Naomi described herself to André as “vindictive and ferocious.” Um… where? She’s boring, sanctimonious, and insufferable at best. - Leslie’s actions toward Ted are borderline predatory and rape-y. Not sure why no one’s talking about it, but it’s giving very double standard vibes. - Ted continues to be a total non-character. The new actor has zero charisma or presence. His line delivery is grating, and I’m genuinely shocked he gets more POV scenes than Nicole. Just look at Nicole’s first kiss with the new guy—it was shown from Ted’s perspective. Why?

I had been meaning to tell you: Alex Cheeks is a strong, promising young actor. Definitely Emmy and primetime worthy someday

Mona is the type of class traitor who will stand up for the 1% even though the 1% would drop her in a heartbeat. I can’t stand her sanctimonious a**. Team Jan all the way.

It’s funny how Dani was shocked at the prospect of Vanessa and Joey. I seem to remember her clocking the two at Uptown while she was having drinks with Pamela. It stuck with me because I thought it was a very Reva moment - trying to insert Dani in every storyline. Maybe this thread will get picked up again via a throwaway line in episode 258! Lol

I actually like some of those. I loved what this DAYS page did with the hourglass here: https://x.com/DOOLONCHAIN/status/1945125461073317990

The footage from the previews includes new camera angles... I like how they look!

Beth Ehlers’ pregnancy was written in as Harley expecting Rick’s baby on GL. Pointless child, can’t even remember his name. I seem to remember it was Eileen Davidson who was pregnant IRL, pregnancy was written in and then Ashley lost her baby in a car crash. Always thought that was a crass choice.

I find Deke really attractive and I love that he’s not buff/bulking like most of the guys are these days. However I hate the shirt they put on him. I don’t understand why some people are suggesting he is Little D’s son and Deacon’s grandson. He’s the right age to be an un-sorased Little D.

That set must be more MAGA than I ever realized.

My question is - why do they think international audiences would be interested in this? I mean it’s great - and I’m international - but I’m a niche in a niche…

Uhm? https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/beondtv-and-recast-unlock-global-access-to-iconic-tv-content-launching-all-my-children-internationally-for-the-first-time-ever-302556675.html

But then again Daphnee said in one of those YT interview that she met Maurice at an event a few days into the recasting, she approached him and gave him the chance to address the recast but he avoided the subject... Had it been an HR issue she would've known and she would've avoided him. I dunno.

They're an item already? So convenient of them to skip the romancing part.

Glad someone else noticed those damn chairs. I understand decorating with symmetry but this is nonsensical: Mind you: they have similar random chairs at Orphey's too. You're forgetting the mean girl attitude she displayed with Naomi against Hayley. I kinda want that sweater! hahah @janea4old any idea where to find it? We actually don't need any further space being wasted on Naomi. If anything, they should build a courtroom set and get a legal writing consultant. Because in the first episode the writers wanted to show how hot the show was and the only couple standing was Naomi and Jacob. Who debuted in bed together.

That’s even worse than I thought.

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LMAO precisely. Who's so intrigued to watch solely because Fake Ridge is on? I mean, I would've understood if it had been Sinn... but Fake Ridge? Does he have any fans?

Same. Plus she’s stuck on 2000’s AMC. Which is fine, but still…

I could never stand this person and never understood how she made a ‘name’ for herself.

KKL is a class act and a team player. And tbh she's a great, underrated actress. I love her and will defend her till I breathe!