Bill Bauer

17 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Was this on air or in a press announcement ?

I read that the Bauers were first called "The Baums" from a history book. Whether it's true or not is anybody's guess. I don't think any of us were alive back then to listen first-hand. Unfortunately. I would tend to think that it's true because it seems way too random a piece of information to be made up. 

12 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

1946

"Dr. Ruthledge "Back in "Guiding Light"

The little community of Five Points, mythical locale of The Guiding Light (NBC, five -a -week, 4 p. m., CST) is preparing a welcome home week the first week of April, celebrating the return of its beloved minister, Dr. John Ruthlege, played by Arthur Peterson. For the past two years, Peterson has been serving with the armed forces overseas and his radio character, Dr. Ruthledge, has been with the services, too -serving as chaplain. Peterson created the role of the kindly minister in 1937, when The Guiding Light was first broadcast.

Hey Paul, 

Thanks so much for posting that. This clears up some ambiguity about the character's death. I had read that he died during WW2 while he was serving in the war as chaplain. The above article seems to clear that up and the character actually came back from the war and died sometime in 1946. That's what I suspected as I couldn't understand why it would take Ned over a year to deliver the friendship lamp to Dr. Matthews.  I'm much more likely to trust something that was published back then than a history book. We know how unreliable those can be. Thanks again. I'm thinking the death of Rev. Ruthledge and Jonathan and Claire's move were the catalysts for switching locales which happened in either late 1946 or early 1947. I don't know. Just conjecture. But this article helps. Where did it come from? 

4 hours ago, Elsa said:

Were the Bauers originally named Baum?

 

 

Yes.

1 hour ago, antmunoz said:

And yet Meta (Mary Stuart) refers to Reverend Rutledge—“one of the best men I’ve ever known for helping people in trouble”—and the church at Five Points at Thanksgiving one year. 

History is flexible. 

 Yeah, there was a lot of revisionist history being written in the latter days. They introduced a character who was supposed to be Rev. Ruthledge's grandson who had the last name Ruthledge who everybody knew of because Reverend Ruthledge was so famous in Springfield. Even though Rev. Ruthledge only had a daughter and even though he was way too young to be Reverend Ruthledge's grandson and even though Reverend Ruthledge didn't live in Springfield. I guess it was nice of them to give a nod to the origins of the show but I don't see the purpose since the only viewers who would even get the reference are soap history geeks who would know that they completely butchered history in the process.

12 minutes ago, Manny said:

 

Oh do I get this correctly that then Bauers did not appear on the show prior to the move to Selby Flats? I thought they had been one of the Rev Ruthledge church members, just not as prominent characters. I  am asking because you mention that the only characters to move to Selby Flats are Claire and her husband. But indeed I agree that this sounds like a much better transition than the one to Springfield. That one is just ..... yikes!

 That is correct. The Bauers were never in Five Points. The move to Selby Flats happened in 1946. The first Bauer, Meta, didn't appear until 1948. The Bauers never knew Rev. Ruthledge. 

2 hours ago, Manny said:

Yes, I think Roger did call her Chrissy. I thought others used that name more when she was a kid and that she became Blake only when she was SORASed. Obviously, this was only my assumption

 

Thanks for the reply. Oh, interesting. Flood is an interesting way to change locations. In regards to Springfield move, I wonder how they explained multiple characters moving to a different city just because Bill changed his job. Or was it just the Bauers that moved and then all the other characters stayed behind while Springfield brought on new characters? Do you happen to know which year this happened?

EDIT: I found more info on wikipedia, I don't know how I did not see this before when I was googling this earlier today. haha Thanks anyway

I've never read anything about a flood. The move from Five Points to Selby Flats happened after Rev. Ruthledge died. His adopted son Ned brought Rev. Ruthledge's friendship lamp to his best friend in seminary, Rev. Charles Matthews, who was living in Selby Flats. Thus, the locale switched. By that time, most of the original characters had been written out and, I believe (though I could very well be wrong about the timing) that the transition happened in 1946 when The Guiding Light was off the air for a little bit. So, when they returned, it was just a whole new setting and cast of characters with the only thing really surviving from the previous story being the friendship lamp. The only characters (I think) who transitioned to Selby Flats (Ned didn't stick around) was Claire Marshall and her new husband Jonathan MacNeil and maybe a couple of characters who were in their orbit. I'm not sure about that but the story during that time period was mostly focused on them. The Ruthledges and the Kranskys had been written out. The exact years are a little fuzzy because I've read that Rev. Ruthledge died in WW2 (he was an army chaplain) but Ned didn't take his friendship lamp to Selby Flats until 1946 which was a year after the war ended. Maybe it just took him a year to get around to it? I think they just had Jonathan and Claire move to Selby Flats perhaps a new job in a hospital for Jonathan. But the transition was smoother and more realistic than the transition from Selby Flats to Springfield. In that transition, the entire cast practically moved together to Springfield. I would like to know the answer to that one as that move was always more mysterious. I've never read anything about it being about Bill getting a new job. I did read, I believe, something about Paul Fletcher getting transferred to a new hospital in Springfield. Why the Bauers went with him, I don't know. They may not have even tried to explain it. Perhaps they just started referring to their town as Springfield. That would have been 1966, I believe. Although the cast was not that large at that time, it would be less implausible that everyone would follow Paul out to Springfield than it would be in later years but it's still implausible and I wonder how they explained it (if they did at all). The history books are pretty silent on the subject on the move to Springfield. I would assume that Paul got the job in Springfield, moved with Robin and Johnny and then told Bill about a job so the Bauers moved there too. I don't know. At that point, the Bauers and the Fletchers made up most of the cast. There was probably an exit/entrance for peripheral characters . Just speculation. 

Personally, I didn't like the locale changes. I wish they would have just left it Five Points. I was partial to that town. 

I wrote a serial for one year when I was in high school (as a way to escape the hell my life was at that time). I had an audience of one (a friend I gave the scripts to). It was laughingly bad. I was a teenager, after all. But it was a lot of fun to write. Since I was only working with one year's time, I crammed what would normally happen in about 20 years on a regular show into that one year. The amount of tragedy that this central family suffered in just one year's time was pretty unbelievable. Then, to top it off, in a nod to my love of disaster movies, I ended the whole thing in a big earthquake destroying the city and killing off half the cast of characters. It was pretty morbid (which matched my mood back then) but, again, great fun to write. My friend loved the story, though, and has kept it all these years. As a joke, I killed off her favorite character in a "fake" script and then told her it was a joke and the character didn't really die. Come to think of it, I could have a job at Days of Our Lives right now. 

12 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Helen mentions that in addition to her sister Pearl, Nancy had another sister Ruth in Texas. I've never heard mention of her before.

I think she's talking about her real-life sister. Helen Wagner is from Lubbock, Texas. It's been a while since I saw that interview but I think what she was trying to say that wasn't very clear was that when Helen would go to Texas to visit her real sister Ruth, the writers would say Nancy was visiting her fictional sister Pearl. 

5 minutes ago, Mitch said:

I never thought of Bev as chewing up the scenery...now Marj on the other hand.

I suspect Alan doesn't know the true meaning of that phrase. 

4 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

 

Everyone was thinking it was cute how Tina was calling Ellen 'Maureen '..etc...but I found it very concerning tbh.

 

To me, it was like Tina almost believed she was Lillian and that Ellen was Maureen.  The letter story wasn't cute, but sad...and I'm sure Ellen saying 'write the letter' was more about being annoyed than anything.

Just to let you know you're not alone, I thought the exact same things. 

2 hours ago, Mitch said:

JFP desperately wanted to move the focus of the show to the Coopers, headed by her FOJ Deas.  The show replaced the calm, comforting matriarch was a too frentic, annoying patriarch..and the ratings dropped, who woulda thought huh?

 

And yes, it was mentioned by others who seem to know that Parker was let go to make money in the budget for Deas..another reason I disliked Buzz.

 

How could anyone in their right mind want to replace the Bauers with the Coopers? 

49 minutes ago, Asb23 said:

Great interview. Interesting that at the beginning Alan had to ask fans to be nice in the comments. I don’t think any fans would have anything bad to say about any on the ladies. It was the leadership and the storyline most took issue with.

 

I think that may have been a leftover from the writers chat. Apparently there was a lot of negative comments in that chat. For good reason. 

I thought I had watched ATWT to the very end but I don't know what any of you are talking about. LOL. I guess I watched less of the last ten years than I thought or I just blocked a lot out. 

Thanks for that, French Fan. Looking at that just makes me sad that I missed out on all of it. Another World may only be #4 or #5 on the list of my all-time favorite soaps but, in my opinion, Another World 1964-1975 was soap opera at its best. 

12 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

They made such of mess of several characters in the show's last decade.  I'm glad I missed that six month period as it would've tested my gag reflexes. By never even bothering to bring back many of those characters, it seems as if they were hoping the viewers would forget about the mess the show had made.

 

You know what I don't understand, what I'll never understand? Instead of wasting time "tying up loose ends" with inconsequential characters why couldn't the show have brought back some characters of substance.  They sort of did this with the return of John Dixon. There are plenty of characters that they could have done this with and it would've been meaningful, but instead what do they do? Resolve Liberty and Janet's storylines. What an entire waste.

But how could we have gone on not knowing what happened to Liberty and Janet? 

2 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

The first TV episode June 30 1952

Cast

Joe Roberts - Herb Nelson

Meta Bauer Roberts - Jone Allison

Kathy Roberts - Susan Douglas

Bert Bauer - Charita Bauer

Bill Bauer - Lyle Sudrow

Joe and Meta have separated and Meta is worried how Kathy will fare. Kathy tells Joe she wants to move out and substitute college for a career.

There were two sets and the show just picked up from Friday's radio episode with no background supplied to new TV viewers.

Thank you for that, Paul. Very cool. Where did you get that info from?

2 hours ago, All My Shadows said:

They brought Dani back for a pretty forgettable six-month stint in 2008-2009 where they very disgustingly paired her with Craig. It was gross.
 

Wow. I had forgotten about that. Thank God I had largely tuned out by then. That's really disturbing and shows you how low things had sunk in the writing department. 

5 hours ago, DRW50 said:

 

With Kim's hair I might have too - if not for Betsy leaving for good in fall 1988 I would have a harder time knowing.

 

(I still think never having her come back, aside from a few very short bits, was a mistake, but oh well) 

Yeah, the hair is one of the things that threw me. I think it was a mistake to forget about Betsy as well. I always liked the character. I liked her a lot more than KMH's Emily and Dani. 

4 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

 

Late summer or early fall 1988, probably.

Thanks, DRW50. I would have guessed later. 

14 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

 

Anytime a Snyder is taken to task is a happy day for me.  Worst family ever created..except Iva

That's a GREAT scene that I think I missed when it originally aired. What year was that? 

I just don't get Ben at all. Why is he the new hero of the story? He's not even a likable serial killer as serial killers go. 

44 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Maybe I mentioned this before (ironically, I had been watching Guiding Light episodes from 1994) but ATWT in 1994 truly looked like a show/set in mourning.  The hair and makeup looks so severe and with a few exceptions, the wardrobe choices look so drab and dour-- it's not just the color palette but even the fit of most of the clothes (a lot of shapeless, formless, boxy garments).  The garish lighting and set pieces (the new Fashions looks awful) is another matter.

I agree totally with the above assessment. There was a heaviness to the whole show. Like they were mourning the glory days being over. Everybody seemed depressed. It picked up a bit in the late 90s. 

I really wish someone would have a long, serious talk with Alan Locher. 

On 7/14/2020 at 6:05 AM, DRW50 said:

I think I posted it a few months back but it's easy to miss. 

 

Sorry to hear that channel is gone. I never did get to watch those new 1985 videos.

I'm truly sorry that in order to keep one person from accessing my videos I had to make them all private. I really regret that because I know how much joy it was bringing fans. I hope you enjoyed them while you could and hopefully downloaded your favorites. According to this person, I stole all of my videos so you should be able to find them all on youtube anyway. Or you could go to his channel where he is using some of my ATWT videos. I'm glad you enjoyed my channel. There's always that one person that has to ruin it for everybody. 

2 hours ago, Days22 said:

 

Hello there, I know from experience between copyrights and fans that go too far that uploading on youtube can get to be too much, but I think you should at least put them unlisted and make playlists for people to still be able to view like many others have done here in the past. Especially if it is just one person causing the problem. 

Perhaps I will do something like that later after I cool off. Right now, the whole thing has been soured for me. I had a couple of playlists already on unlisted to share with people I know and like. I may do that with all of the videos although there's no certainty this person couldn't still access them if they get ahold of the link. Unfortunately there's not a "douchebag blocker". LOL. 

1 hour ago, All My Shadows said:

I did notice that everything went away today. I was actually watching your GL ep from 6/01/79 while you were privatizing your videos. I hate it when those people ruin it for everyone because this is content that is so very hard to come across. Everyone should just be appreciative of your willingness to share.

I truly am sorry about that and I appreciate your kind words. 

3 hours ago, All My Shadows said:

@BillBauer, you're doing GREAT work bringing all of these back to YT!!

Thank you. I really appreciate that. I enjoyed making other fans happy by sharing my collection. Unfortunately, due to some nasty harassment, I had to make my collection private. I didn't want to share my really rare stuff with this person but you can't just block one person. There's always got to be that one person to ruin it for everybody and I shouldn't let nasty comments keep me from sharing but I decided to share originally to spread the joy and hear comments like yours, not snarky comments which was starting to happen. I hope that you were able to enjoy the collection while you could and were able to download as much as possible to enjoy for future use. Thanks again for the kind words!