Bill Bauer

On 3/23/2019 at 9:25 PM, Soaplovers said:

I always kind of thought Bob cheating on kim with Susan was perfect karma..since kim pursued bob when he was married to her sister Jennifer.  Glad Nancy pointed that out to kim.

Did she now? Nancy being salty?

20 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

There were definitely times when Bob's shortness of temperament reared its head in situations.  I know that John Dixon was often a provocateur who could get under anybody's skin but there were a few instances when he would voice a genuine concern with Bob (although, in typical John fashion, he used neither diplomacy nor tact) and Bob would just go off on John, sometimes unprovoked.  Bob could be very haughty, as he displayed with new resident Casey Perretti, even when Casey's ideas were in earnest (and yes, on occasion, Casey could rub people the wrong way with his abrupt manner).

 

Then there is the way that Bob talked down to Kim when he found out that she wanted to have a career shortly after Christopher was born.  Everyone talked about Steve Andropoulous' regressive views on married women (w/kids) in the workplace but no one mentioned Bob's, even after both Kim and Lisa challenged Bob on his out of step views.

 

FWIW, I think various writing regimes tried to show just how imperfect and flawed Bob could be (in many ways) but a lot of viewers often built up a hagiography in their own minds, based upon those warm and wonderful Thanksgiving toasts and Christmas carols but Bob was still the man who cheated on two of his wives.

Now that I think about, you’re right. Bob did always did have a haughtiness about him. I always thought he was too tough on Christopher as an adult. Then there is the time when Kim was having a hard time forgiving Bob for cheating on her with Susan and Bob had the gall to say, “Could you imagine my mother being so unforgiving to my father?” Then Kim rightly replied, “Chris never would have cheated on Nancy!”

On 3/19/2019 at 7:55 PM, DramatistDreamer said:

Dana Delaney!

This episode was quite enjoyable, imo.  The cat and mouse interplay between John Dixon and James Stenbeck is very compelling.  It's nice to see Justin Deas (as Tom Hughes) give a performance that isn't hammy.  To see Margo arguing with Lyla and being very much invested in a relationship with James is quite interesting to see.

Those scenes between Brad and Eric Hollister were...uh, interesting.  I was mostly interested in their discussion about Hayley and it was kind of weird to see that Brad was thinking about the possibilities of a relationship with either Lisa or Dee Stewart, two very different women.

Also, I liked this actor who played Rick Ryan.  In the later iteration of Rick, the character was much more obvious as a menace, very oily but this Rick is a bit more complex, almost wears two faces, one that appears earnest but underneath, lies a mercenary.

I would love to see more episodes from these storylines.  The video quality is excellent too, I'm guessing it's from one of the SoapClassics collection.

 

 

Wow. I realize Rick was always a weasel but Bob seemed like a real dick in that scene between the two. 

On 1/3/2019 at 12:18 AM, j swift said:

 

 

Which bar hosted Tom Horton's beat poetry?

 

Maybe Shenanigans? 

7 hours ago, Eboneece said:

Penny made that statement in 1998 at Nancy’s party set on the Valetta, which sank around August. Ellen was present. The episodes in whole or part are definitely on YouTube. This was also.when Kirk and Sam disappeared.

 

Penny did return in 2000 for a Christmas dinner at the Mona Lisa. Bob, Kim, Lisa, Nancy, and Chris were present. This may have been the final or one of the final times we saw the Mona Lisa set. Bob and Kim’s home was still intact gor several more years and used frequently during Allison/Chris’s storylines and many times that Bob/Kim were shown in general.  It was also used as a set when Colleen Zenk did commercials for Tyson Chicken as Barbara. We would see the kitchen until around late 2005. After that, elements of Bob and Kim’s kitchen became part of Katie’s WOAK set. We would not see Bob and Kim’s living room after 1999, I believe. Even then, its angles had shifted and it had been rearranged, sliced down to a couch in front of a window with a simple foyer (no step or staircase). 

Thank you for the dates! I can look for it more easily now. I guess I did see it at some time or another because I clearly remember Penny saying that line but thought I hadn’t seen the birthday party. I thought it was the Christmas episode I have. Thanks for the info!

On 3/16/2019 at 12:37 AM, YRfan23 said:

Thanks! that sounds juicy! I'm guess they had a fight and Lorie did it out of anger?

Unfortunately, that was way too long ago and I was far too young to remember all the details. If I remember correctly, they were fighting and Leslie started playing the piano and ignoring Lorie. Then Lorie slammed the keyboard cover down on her fingers. I remember her crying out in pain. I’m not too sure about the fight. That’s very vague. It might have been more spontaneous like a fit of jealousy. I remember Lorie was very jealous of Leslie because she was getting so much acclaim as a pianist and had a big concert coming up so that’s why she did that. I just remember clearly the actual incident. It was very shocking as a child so that’s the only reason I remember it. I also remember Katherine driving Philip off the cliff and both the rape of Chris and later the rape of Peggy. Again, because these were all shocking. I can’t believe I was allowed to watch such adult stuff but my babysitter watched it so I had to as well. I remember Jill cutting into someone’s throat who was choking on some food as well. Can’t remember who it was. 

15 hours ago, Khan said:

 

I think Rosemary Prinz did put in at least one appearance post-Marland.  I can't recall the specifics -- something to do w/ a boat that sunk? -- but I do recall her watching all the drama surrounding Molly, David Stenbeck and others unfold and remarking, "Who ARE these people?".

She said that during the Christmas show in 2000. I have that on tape somewhere. They were in a restaurant. I guess they had already done away with Bob and Kim’s house by then. It was the same episode where Lyla made her appearance. Seemed to be the last nod to the past. That may have been Penny’s last appearance unless Nancy’s birthday party came after that. I’m not sure when Nancy’s 80th was. I missed that when it was on originally and it strangely never appears on YouTube or in soap trading circles. I’m thinking that episode was late 90s? Ellen’s last appearance was Thanksgiving 1998 so, if she came to Nancy’s birthday party, I’m guessing it was mid-90s. 

15 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Does anyone know the deal wit Leslie injuring her hand before the concert in the 75 episode?

 

When it was mentioned,Lorie had a reaction shot.Did she have anything to do with it?

I’m sure that was when Lorie slammed the keyboard case down on Leslie’s fingers while she was playing the piano. I can’t believe I remember that but I saw it when I was a kid so the scene had a big impact on me. I haven’t seen that scene in over 40 years. 

33 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

In the Old Y&R thread, being treated to some vintage episodes from the 1970s and appreciating how magnanimous many Y&R fans are, dipping into their collections and trading and sharing videos.  Also wondering why ATWT doesn't have that same tradition.

The Y&R videos are in such good picture quality, better than many of the ATWT ones from the 1980s and even early '90s!

I truly don't understand what would be the harm in sharing, if you have vintage videos?  I feel like, with Y&R, every year a crop of vintage episodes pop up somewhere online while with ATWT, I'm seeing many of the same videos uploaded and reuploaded from the past ten years on YouTube.  

 

Today I feel like I needed some entertainment "comfort food" so I am watching an episode leading up to ATWT's 30th Anniversary where several characters from the past visit Oakdale for Chris and Nancy Hughes' wedding anniversary celebration and seeing Dee Hughes converse with Tom Hughes, I felt that instead of Emily, it would've been much more interesting to me had Dee and Tom had a dalliance.  The added effect it would've had on John (if he were still around) could have provided a lot of drama. 

I realize that part of the reason I just didn't care about Daniel was because I just didn't care about Emily and Tom's affair, the two actors who were playing Tom (SH) and Emily (KMH) lacked chemistry and for that reason, I wished the writers had never done the story.

Seeing Greg Marx and Jacqueline Schultz interact made me see that, in the right hands, it could've been more plausible, compelling even.

That was Vicky Dawson, not Jacqueline Schultz but I agree with you. Tom and Dee had a past relationship as well. I think they dated briefly but I could be wrong about that. It was before I started watching.

13 minutes ago, Mitch said:

Roger was rather one dimensional at this time. I think the Dobsons wrote James Stenbeck the same way...not that AH as hot as he was, was an actor of the same caliber of Zaz, but I always wish they had written him withe more conflict then just EVIL..

 

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On 2/24/2019 at 7:56 PM, DramatistDreamer said:

While looking for video for another thread, I happened to come across this episode from 1984, which I don't remember seeing in the past.

It features rare footage of an exterior shot of the Walsh stables, which honestly looks like a prop piece from Mr. Roger's Neighborhood.

Seeing the early relationship between Dusty and Lily, at this point, Dusty is angsty, restless and temperamental-- which honestly, seems like a template for a future Holden.

Also, I don't think I remember seeing the first actor to play Heather Dalton's father (I remember the 2nd).  This man looks like the actor who played the Dad in The Last Dragon.

 

 

1984 seems like a weird year for ATWT. It seems completely set apart from what ATWT used to be and what ATWT would soon become. Almost like it’s own, different show. I’m not sure if I like it, but I find it interesting. 

This  version of Frannie seems kind of dopey and I actually prefer this version of Lily. I always found Martha Byrne’s Lily whiny and highly irritating. Brian Bloom always creeped me out a little. He’s 14 here but looks and acts 45.

15 hours ago, SoapDope said:

I was looking back over some early GL stuff and wonder why writers never did much with Trudy Bauer ?  Meta was on and off the show over years, but Trudy was written out by 1959. 

Probably because she only had one storyline and that was fighting over Ross Boling with Meta and feeling inferior to Meta. Once Trudy married Clyde, that was all in the past and Trudy found contentment (no more drama). Plus she moved off to New York. She sort of rode off into the sunset. Not that she couldn’t come back to Springfield, perhaps as a divorced woman, but there was probably not much need for that once the focus was on the next generation and new heroine (Kathy). 

On 2/13/2019 at 3:37 PM, zanereed said:

 

Bert Bauer's passing was handled POORLY, considering TPTB took over a year to figure out what to do after Charita had passed away. As you correctly stated @vetsoapfan, no appearance whatsoever from her son, Mike, who she was incredibly close to? Yes, Mike got mentioned in passing, but to not at least try to get Don Stewart to return was ridiculous. I think that Stewart would have returned out of respect for Charita, but I'm guessing no one even tried to reach out to him.

 

For Nancy...I've given Chris Goutman probably too much sympathy on this, since I'm thinking there was not enough time (or a proper budget) to get a proper service put together that would have included the extended Hughes family.

 

Maureen...that was all JFP, as I assume @DRW50 was alluding to - it was to prop up Ed, but then nothing came of it for Ed at all.

 

One of the best funerals TGL ever did was the funeral for HB Lewis. That was how you did it - invite former cast members to come back and honor the actor (yes, that even included Rebecca Hollen returning as Trish!!!). Another good one was for Alice on DOOL, although there could have been/should have been even more Hortons that came back for her service (again, I'm guessing budget was an issue?).

I don’t think I’ve seen a soap matriarch/patriarch death handled as well as Alice’s funeral on Days. I’m not sure which Hortons they could have brought back that they didn’t. It seemed like they brought everybody back except Tommy. I guess since he wasn’t even mentioned we are to assume he died. They even brought back Maree Cheatham who hadn’t been on the show as a regular since the early 70s and went to the bother of casting a new Bill Horton since the main actor who played him had died. I was very pleased at how many characters they brought back. Nancy and Bert’s funerals were pathetic in comparison. I thought they handled Chris Hughes’ funeral well but that was under Marland so that’s expected. Nancy’s children (besides Bob) not only didn’t come but weren’t even mentioned and it was all about Katie. I almost wish they hadn’t even addressed her death. It was almost insulting. Bert’s funeral was almost as bad with no returning family members but, as someone said, the writers seemed very eager at that time to forget the past. 

On 1/29/2019 at 12:28 PM, Mitch said:

 

Zimmer IS Reva..sometimes she annoys the f*ck out of you and other times you love the hell out of her...here I love the hell out of her!  I lover her Charita comments and I think she did a great job of channeling Charita for the anniversary show, she had the zest, and the outgoing warmth of Charita down pat.  Again, would love to sit down with Kimmer with a bottle of wine and let her rip!!!

 

The thing is, Peapack would have been the perfect time to get back to the show being about family....the format cried out to the return of that as there was nothing else the budget could stand. But Wheeler kept throwing in jewel thieves and secret agent Jeffie chasing after Eddie who had a double...it would all have been dumb in the old format but it looked even more ridiculous in a real town setting.

 

I’ve met and talked with Kim Zimmer and she is a very fun and friendly person. Someone you’d want to have as a friend. Not pretentious in the slightest. Very honest and straight-forward. Wears her heart on her sleeve and will tell you anything. Great gal. 

On 2/1/2019 at 11:31 AM, Mitch said:

I don't even remember this woman!!!

 

Sean WAS hot...he played Gaston on Broadway...but he was totally not Frannie's type...or Marland's type..i.e. he didn't prisspot around about "feelings," and "honesty"  I forgot he was annoying Courtney's bro and I HATED this Frannie with her helmet hair..she just didn' t seem to be a Hughes...(I would think Nancy would think that "flashy" hair is good for Emily but NOT a Hughes...)

Although I thought Mary Ellen Stuart looked a lot more like she could be Gillian Spencer’s daughter than Julianne Moore could. I much preferred Julianne Moore in the role though. Looks aside, she seemed more like a Hughes. 

On 2/3/2019 at 5:46 PM, P.J. said:

 

That's because for most of his existence, he was a limp presence on a shoulder or "sleeping". While Emily was married to Hal, we saw more of Emily with Parker than her own kid. 

 

The entire "Hughes man with Stewart woman" feud the last ten years was made up crap, but Dan Stewart's grandson should've had a presence on the show. 

The existence of Daniel Hughes was much more significant when you realize that the first major storyline on ATWT back when it premiered was Edith Hughes affair with Jim Lowell. It was the big scandal. Then, 50 years later, the two families were finally combined in Edith’s great-great nephew and Jim’s great-great grandson. I think he was pretty much related to everyone on the show in one way or another.

20 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I'm sure everyone's already seen these clips, but they are periodically muted on Youtube, so if you haven't, here they are. The B52s on Guiding Light. GL was trying very hard to move into the youth soap market in this period, which viewers didn't seem to mind, but I do wonder how their mostly conservative audience felt when they heard "Throw That Beat in the Garbage Can." 

 

It's nice to see Ricky Wilson. 

 

(I love the shot at 1:58 of the very beautiful Maeve Kinkead and Robert Newman, then reigning as the bitch goddess and boo hiss bastard of Springfield, haughtily rocking out to the sounds of the day)

 

 

 

And here's Jennifer Holiday. I think that's Rebecca Hollen doing the sassy head shake...

 

 

Key Largo. I remember the first time I saw this, I thought, "Will they reference Nola's Casablanca fantasy?" And sure enough, they did. It always makes me smile. 

 

 

That weird, surreal moment when my favorite soap opera and my favorite rock group intersect. Private Idaho is my favorite song ever but Throw That Beat in the Garbage Can is such a bizarre choice. I saw an interview with the B-52s where even they couldn’t understand why the producers wanted them to play it. They thought it was a weird choice too. I guess it’s worth it just for the image of Vanessa Chamberlain grooving on a live performance of Throw That Beat in the Garbage Can. It’s like what you would think watching a GL episode while on acid would be like. 

I tell you, that Wired For Sound was a happening place. I would’ve been there every night.