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@JAS0N47 has a complete floor plan for the Horton house from the book "Days of our Lives: A Tour Through Salem" on his website :

https://www.jason47.com/days/hortonhousetribute.html

TBH, I can see why they removed that door beyond space saving reasons as it's a bit confusing how the floorplan is laid out at first sight because you'd instinctively think that the den/study would expand to the left due to the front door. It's sort of counterintuitive, especially with the windows by the staircase, plus we so rarely see the outside to clarify how it might be laid out. 

And obviously this is a bit wrong anyway, as I'm sure the "family room" in this was always the dining room? But sets on television shows tend to work like the TARDIS either way. 

4.9 x 931k = 4 561 900

5.6 x 942k = 5 275 200

5.3 x 954k = 5 056 200

5.8 x 959k = 5 562 200

5.8 x 970k = 5 626 000

5.1 x 980k = 4 998 000

Worth remembering that the amount of household a ratings point represents changes from season to season (these were just quick figures  I googled up, so they might be wrong). That's why I think the amount of viewers might tell a better story sometimes rather than just the ratings - DAYS clearly broke a trend of decline in daytime and considering how weak NBC's daytime line-up was it was no small feat.

5 minutes ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

JustWatch.com shows it there & if you click on it you're taken to an Amazon page where you can begin to watch it, so, I'm not sure what to say. If it's not there, this is one fine optical illusion!

I sure loved watching Gerry Schwartz, Heather Reisman, James Allen and Isadore Sharp on Aaron Spelling's Titans!

ETA: it's this show, the year is wrong on FreeVee: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8094718/reference/

4 hours ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

TITANS, 1 season, FreeVee

Titans, the short-lived Aaron Spelling show, isn't on FreeVee...

57 minutes ago, Vee said:

That Amazon statement seems carefully couched. I wouldn't assume there's nothing to the rumor.

It's a classic non-denial. I think they're just folding FreeVee into the Prime app though as that makes sense. It's unnecessary for them to have two apps since the entire purpose of purchasing it and IMDB is to drive customers to Amazon.

3 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

LOL I searched a little, and from what I can tell, it's basically digital now. Their archives and new stuff is at

https://playgirlplus.com/ and it's $12.95 a month to subscribe. On IG and Twitter, they have about 25k followers, which isn't exactly huge. I don't think this is some great move by DAYS actors unless they got a decent payday out of it.

 

I wonder how many of those subscribers are actual women 

And yeah, of course they won't go dick out here, but at least it would bring some promo to the show as I doubt a slight show of butt will get much social media traction these days. 

I'd assume part of this might be because they're looking to launch in more markets? Better to just try it with the Prime app since it's already launched internationally than to try and promote a separate service. 

Do Playgirl still do full frontals?

Yeah, good resemblance lookswise at least - I'm happy to hear that she did well actingwise too apparently. Maybe they should introduce her as a character from a Horton branch (Sandy should surely have kids?).

1 hour ago, asafi said:

it will be nice to see Denise Alexander (Susan Martin) but don't think it will happen.

Checked and Denise last appeared on General Hospital in 2021, so who knows if she could appear if she wanted to. They're all getting up there in age unfortunately. But yes, Denise would obviously be the biggest "get" in this memorial, especially if they can show flashbacks.

On 2/18/2024 at 2:50 AM, Paul Raven said:

So then to drop Match Game for Love of Life seemed odd. LOL had played in the morning for years and expecting viewers to find it in the afternoon was a big ask.

Just like I've pointed out that it was a mistake to place younger-skewing soaps like The City and Sunset Beach in the noon, moving Love of Life was also dumb. It very much gives off the vibe of your "grandmother's" soap and was probably a good fit for the earlier time slot when those viewers are at home. Expecting those kids, students and younger people that might come home in the afternoon to suddenly start watching Love of Life was idiotic, but then again...

On 2/18/2024 at 2:50 AM, Paul Raven said:

I think it was just a way to get rid of Love of Life and blame the ratings.

... it was probably this. They could get rid of a somewhat middling performer by making it tank in the late afternoon by appearing to give it a shot as it was just a win-win situation for them here; either it bombs and they're rid of it, or it performs unexpectedly well and fixes a late afternoon slot for them.

18 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

It would be good if these writers could do something like that, but with a more modern twist.

I liked how it also kept Allison as an important character despite being off screen with a fate unknown - we saw the characters move on, but every now and then the consequences of her departure would flare up. Was Allison a victim Rachel's uncle? Did she really go off to New York? And so on.

Ultimately, people go missing and unfortunately aren't found in some way or another. There's a reason why Charley Project has 15k+ cases. And sometimes, people do bizarrely turn up out of nowhere.

Unfortunately, I think the whole "let's kill the character off" (beyond short-term thinking with ratings stunts) is a way to not deal with a characters absence and have the characters move on with their lives.

On 2/18/2024 at 9:13 PM, Soapsuds said:

I'll pass.

I watched last week and I was surprised that they actually said Days was bad lately. I almost fell off my chair.

I'm assuming they got away with that due to it being written by scab writers? If Ron was writing the current episodes they wouldn't say a peep.

17 hours ago, j swift said:

Also, I hesitate to speculate where Johnny was keeping that guitar this whole time.

In his butt?

On 2/18/2024 at 4:25 PM, te. said:

the rich tart who loves all the guys (but has especially taken an eye for the lone black guy at the dorm). 

If anybody was wondering, Freshman Dorm quickly killed this off post-pilot and had Justin Lazard join as the Rebel Without A Cause (aka the Dylan McKay for college) character. In the third episode we get to know more about he-of-the-leather-jacket in the California heat - he can not only recite Shakespeare from memory (in a particularly awkward moment when a teacher got confrontational, something which I've never experienced irl) and had an abusive marine father who didn't appreciate how his son totally had his head in the books at the library.

4 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

There are other ways to create dramatic impact, or temporarily take a character off the canvas without killing them.

See Allison just walking off on Peyton Place into the unknown, or Stella Chernak leaving town as a disgraced woman.

17 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

Bummer, glad we got to enjoy it while it lasted. Maybe it'll end up on Tubi or something? I'd hate for the series to sit in the dustbin for 17 years again. Or at the very least, maybe finally get a complete series DVD? 

I'd assume it might turn up on whoever owns Lorimar's catalog at worst? I don't think they'll let it lay on the shelf after all that job digitizing it.

But another FAST service seems likely.

7 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

The stand out for me was that only 14% of affiliates were running the schedule. NBC allowed that and paid the price.

I think this is what trips us up with their shows having high clearances - yes, they were airing the shows, but at what time? I also imagine that it would screw up any nationwide promotional efforts for these shows. Why did NBC never push back on this, especially later in the 90s when they attempted to launch Sunset Beach? Maybe they had hoped that affiliates would choose the best time slot to optimize the ratings for those soaps, but clearly that didn't happen.

1 hour ago, teplin said:

Did they actually get David Bowie to license "Young Americans" to them, or is this some fan edit?

It did apparently serve as the theme song, yes. I doubt the show had any fans to make fan edits either way...

We all know those reality shows are scripted to hell and back so it was probably meant to drum up the internet shade machine.

Well, Freshman Dorm is on archive.org at the moment - it aired together with 2000 Malibu Road during the summer of 1992 as counter-programming against 90210 and Melrose Place. It stars among others Robin Lively, Matthew Fox and Casper Van Dien. I will say it's sort of a basic soap set up - three girls from different backgrounds sharing a dorm room and it's definitively soapy. You have the naive midwestern girl (Lively), the hispanic girl from a blue collar home having to work to make it through college and the rich tart who loves all the guys (but has especially taken an eye for the lone black guy at the dorm). 

I'll say it's very soapy from the start and would've made a fun night along with 2000 Malibu Road - shame they threw it away on programming it against THOSE 90210 summer episodes as it stood no chance against manwhore Dylan cheating with that snake Kelly against poor innocent and sweet Brenda! If CBS had actually programmed the shows another night and been able to order more episodes they might've gotten something going with that elusive 18-49 demographic.

On 2/17/2024 at 1:07 AM, AbcNbc247 said:

If the chair survived, then the Christmas ornaments had to have survived too 

I've said it before and I'll say it again - this will basically lead to new paint, re-stuffed couch and maybe some throw pillows if they managed to steal enough pocket change from the actors. That the chair would survive the fire and not be completely smoke-damaged at least is lol.

I'm not sure if the backstory of Tom and Alice will be sweet or a trainwreck. Hopefully they went back to the source material for that as I recall they did write a bit of their background in the OG storyline bible.

I think Julie (and Doug, for now) re-building the Horton house isn't the worst storyline.

Promo for Aaron Spelling's little heard of The Round Table, which debuted on NBC in the same season as Melrose Place:

Theme songs: 

53 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

IMO there was still mileage in his story too.

I feel like they could've also just explored more with LilliMae's background and why she was so against proper mental health care... they seemed to hint a lot that there was something very wrong going on there during the Chip storyline, then of course Val's breakdown, then Joshua's religious fervour. I think it would've given Julie Harris Emmy-worthy material (even if she wouldn't have won anything of course lol), but maybe it would've been too heavy-handed for Knots at that point?

2 hours ago, Khan said:

I think KL always meant for Joshua to be an antagonist, but given what we now know about Michael Filerman's personal distaste for Alec Baldwin, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Filerman made the other producers and writers lean harder onto that in order to force Baldwin off the show.

It definitively feels like something changed between seasons six and seven for his character - they seemed very much to focus on the fact that he was detoriating mentally and that there might be some issue in LilliMae's past surrounding mental health (which would've tied nicely into Val's breakdown that season), but suddenly he became very one-note villain until he died imho.

I also don't think he got physically abusive with Cathy until season 7, which was a line too far.

On 2/10/2024 at 9:22 PM, I Am A Swede said:

Anyone who has died on-screen in front of the audience.

This. I'm generally fine with being back from the dead if it's the usual vague soap opera death, but if you have them die on screen that should be it, as regrettable as that is for some characters.

It's always sounded to me like Loving needed to choose what they wanted to focus on - young adults from different backgrounds at a university, with maybe parents as more of a recurring presence, or the class struggles of different families? If it's the later, then they needed to cut down the main families to two to be able to make a coherent 30 minute soap. If it's the former, then they could have students from varying families, but mostly keep other family members off screen and just have them drop in as the plot dictated.

It just sounds like trying to do too much and not really ending up with much at all in the long run.