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Yep, it sounds pretty serious since they've post-poned the public voting now (it was supposed to open at midnight). I doubt they'd consider disqualifying him over something non-serious because trying to fill three extra minutes in a tight live show is a nightmare.

I'll never stop laughing at Lucy talking about how hot Cliff was.

He always looked like a rat (which was perfectly in character).

1 hour ago, soapfan770 said:

Good lord CBS, and why was Jane Wyman named last in this promo?

 

Well, last is usually considered a "star spot". I'm more confused with Mark Lindsay Chapman being named in this - he was hardly famous and not even a regular! I do think it's interesting how they just promoted it as a new show. Though it makes sense - I actually think it's probably a much more well-plotted and written season that a lot of them. But they could've pretty much just named it Falcon Crest: New Beginnings or something...

On 4/20/2024 at 2:05 AM, Chris B said:

Joan clearly has body dysmorphia.

Yup. Unfortunately, you get the feeling she spends hours each day studying her face for new lines and misses the full picture. As you said, she has filler all over her face but for some reason won't go for the lips - I assume it's the lines in the face that annoys her. Add that she's unhealthily thin for her age...

On 4/30/2024 at 2:28 AM, j swift said:

It is definitely marketed to a niche audience.  But, even if one were a fan of glass block, and was willing to repaint the exterior. By the time you ripped out the kitchen and the bathroom to this century's standards, you might as well just tear down the whole house.

Exactly - either you'd need to largely keep it the way it is or you'd just need to do such an overhaul that it's not worth keeping the structure up.

2 hours ago, janea4old said:

Several interviews with cast say that sometimes they tape parts of several different episodes in one day.  I think the taping is planned by what set is being used, or groupings of actors, or when guest actors are available, etc.

 

Yes, exactly. Kassie DePavia filmed a three week stint in like three days. I don't think they film *episodes* in that manner, which makes sense if they're going to be that far ahead. 

(I know there's a Melrose Place thread, but I feel this needs a WIGERVERSINNARY... okay that sounds wrong but it's the thought and so on)

I'd argue that CBS will try and secure what they'd consider the main players of the soap for as long as possible. It's been incredibly long since we've had a new soap, so who knows how long that'll be? The reason why established soaps aren't known for giving long contracts it's because they've already mapped out who the important cast members are and those aren't going to sign long-term contracts because short-term is usually a better deal for them. 

They gave it an hour slot because that's the show that's being replaced (The Talk). It was either that or try and develop a companion piece, which in itself would be riskier than just doing a hour show. Personally, I think the soap format - especially with the gigantic growth on streaming - probably works better as a half hour (or ~20 minutes). It makes for very easy catch up viewing at the very least.

That's just imho of course. But after watching old soap episodes I think a daily format works better shorter.

Called it that they were going to go straight from The Talk to The Gates. Now lets see if the name sticks.

Whenever I hear how soaps end up over-indexing on AA viewers I always wonder if it's because AA viewers love seeing white people act insane; Dynasty also over-indexed as does apparently shows like Grey's Anatomy.

I forgot that this was the moment when Sami truly went after Austin because Carrie is such a bitch.

Since ReRon loves his recycling this should be a plot point for Allie and Sydney (who whould be a red head).

Nothing against Guiding Light or As The World Turns, but I don't think either really has a huge interesting premise to appeal beyond their original fanbase that would make them worth rebooting over just creating a new show. The reason why many people point towards Edge of Night or something like Dark Shadows is because both shows have an instantly recognizeable point of view beyond just being a soap. Guiding Light might have an up there because it's well-known as one of the longest running shows and the oldest long-running soap, but it'd like end up doing "meh" like the Law & Order reboot.

6 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

After a couple of well regarded but low rated seasons in various 10 o'clock timeslots, ABC moves it to the prime  8pm Sunday up against MSW and Family Ties. It was certainly counter programming but very odd nonetheless.

 

My understanding is that at least a part of it was because Spenser was quite expensive, so airing it in a time slot that got lower ad rates might've been not been practical in order to make a profit on the show. I don't think it was a tank job as much as they were trying to find a way to keep an expensive, but moderately rated series, going.

8 hours ago, kalbir said:

I think The Gates will launch after the March Madness break, so going by the March Madness 2025 dates on March Madness Final Four: Future dates & sites (ncaa.com) , I say series premiere is Monday March 24, 2025.

To be honest, I don't see why they wouldn't just run The Talk until March if that's what they planned to do. It makes no sense for them to have to get filler programming if they could just smoothly transition from The Talk to The Gates and The Talk could literally end any Friday as there's no need to wrap anything up. I still think The Gates will premiere over the winter break and they'll just use March Madness as further promotion to keep any "hype" going. Daytime soaps aren't as reliant on having huge premieres as much as keeping people tuned in so for me it makes more sense as they would hopefully start having storylines heating up and gelling properly by March.

27 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

I wonder what CBS will air in the Talk's timeslot till the Gates premiere's? 

I can't see why they wouldn't just air The Talk until The Gates is ready to premiere. It's a show that can literally wrap filming at any point in time if needed, so I think we've gotten a timeline on when we can expect The Gates.

I just hope they'll re-build the set as it was and not go with the far too glitzy (but at the same time cramped) look of the reboot.

Yep, was about to post that. The Talk cancelled and ending in December. I'm guessing they're going to aim for The Gates to premiere either late 2024/early 2025. There's literally no reason for them to end The Talk earlier if they didn't have a plan for The Gates.

Maybe they can kill off Matt again.

[!@#$%^&*] YES. 

This whole show is essentially cat nip for the gays. There's a bit of annoying anachronisms in there, but overall, if you like things like Desperate Housewives, this is a show for you essentially.

1 hour ago, Vee said:

I could swear she appears dead on a gurney in the hospital scenes filmed for S4, but otherwise yes.

She doesn't. Richard informa Jane she's dead despite casually passing by the alcove she died in.

Off screen deaths. Never dignifying.

Sorry, but no penis no sale for me.

On 4/9/2024 at 2:21 AM, Vee said:

Yes and yes. She was on a handful of episodes at best.

Technically, Morgan Brittany only filmed to appear in The Big Bang Theory aka the two hour finale of season 3. Since the explosion was post-poned to the season 4 premiere, but she technically didn't film anything for that. You can tell that post-explosion there's no shot of her when the others get up with fabulous new hair-do's.

ETA: I've said it before, but I suspect that the episode was first set to end with Amanda mouthing "oh my God", then the explosion of her apartment pushing her down the stairs. Post that you can clearly see Sydney has a new hair-do:

5 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

I think that not giving these characters an exit was deliberate.

I guess if we view these soaps as viewers only being given a slice of daily lives of a dozen or so people that live in a town of thousands it makes sense that sometimes people will just "disappear" off screen without much fuzz and we as viewers are kind of expected to think they're just living their lives. Of course, with people like Marie and Doug / Julie being so interconnected with the main families that makes it problematic that they wouldn't be mentioned.