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Well, obvs I would love that idea! Though I haven't had a chance to get into RHoA this season (is there an episode I should start watching that gets right into the good stuff? I've seen episode 1 but I'm too lazy to work my way through 2,3 and 4 etc), I think you have hit on something that audiences have been dying for -- the glamorous African-American reality soap opera. RHoA has aspirational, dream-come-true elements but the HWs -- even the ones we might hate -- are all relatable, or at least recognizable, in some way. Plus it has a mix of drama and humor. I think that balance is very important.

Cheap, thanks for the link. I read her blog -- and Lisa's, and Yolanda's -- with interest. I don't usually read the Bravo blogs unless you guys on this thread indicate they are worth reading. I just assume ghostwriters put these blogs together, and so many times the "HWs" refuse to acknowledge when they are in the wrong (Brandi being one striking example). But Boyce definitely backed up her argument and was quite charming about how she touches her hair as a nervous tick, as well as the "chastise" thing which made her look really dumb when I first watched it. Boyce is growing on me! I still think she is a Stepford Wife, but I certainly am not going to knock her for being proud of her roots. It is awesome that she is so proud of being from PR. As for the show... JAMIE LEE CURTIS!!!! I just love her. And the charity seems like a wonderful local cause, so kudos to Kyle and Mauricio for being generous donors. Having said that, those clothes... yikes. They make Forever 21 look elegant and fashion-forward. Indeed, the show seems a lot more budget and grubby lately. Palm Springs wasn't all that, Brandi and Kim's condos are not especially cinematic, KYLE by Arlene Too looks like it should be wedged next to the pizza takeout at your local strip mall, and even the transition shots are lacking their usual glossy sparkle. Lisa and Yolanda's houses are still spectacular, though. How I wish we could watch Camille's many homes in Malibu/Hawaii/Aspen! Contributing to the trash quotient IMHO are Carlton and Brandi. I'm not saying I want a boring show where everybody sips tea and talks about the weather. And I don't dislike Carlton per se. But she belongs on a different show, possibly on a different network. She knows it, and so does Bravo, because she is barely interacting with any of the other HWs. As for Brandi's non-apologies... girl, bye. Just accept that you spoke out of turn and say I'm sorry. I appreciate she loves her missing dog, but she can't use that or every time she breaks a nail as an excuse to attack someone. Obviously Brandi is depressed, but no doubt the excessive drinking and drugging are contributing to her mood swings and paranoia. They make her even more belligerent and irrational. She looks completely self-destructive. Though I can't hate on Lisa, Ken and Yolanda who really, truly want to see her for the (probably) nice person she once was.

Boyce looks like Camila Banus from Days in that photo, Cheap! Will watch RHoBH as soon as I can and come back here for comments.

If I look like Yolanda at 50, I would gladly tolerate an errant zit! Yolanda looked beautiful makeupless in her bathroom, moreso than in her talking heads, I think. But your acne prevention advice is always excellent and welcome. And yes, no Kim mention. I actually deleted what I wrote about Kingsley running around with other dogs in the countryside and how cute it all was... but even then, there was no mention of KR. I think that when we get to her son's breakdown, we will see more of her.

Isn't it Cobweb, Misty and Moonshine? LOL I think Cross is definitely one of the names, Destiny might be another.

And I have to say that while being a diehard Lisa fan to the death, as hostess, she should have nipped that argument in the bud. Everybody sat there like "WTH are we doing here?" Obviously it was all set up for the camera because normally Boyce and the hubby would have walked out once Brandi got belligerent and Lisa would have pulled Brandi aside. But both Boyce and Brandi were determined to make it all about them.

Brandi probably doesn't feel that she is racist, and she would argue that she hates Boyce not because she is Hispanic but because she is Boyce. However, she immediately goes to the gutter to attack her, by calling her every insulting name she can think of, racist and otherwise. I don't think she realizes just how hateful it comes across. And we haven't really seen what is causing this pent-up anger, so it ends up looking irrational. However, Boyce is all over this [!@#$%^&*] because it gives her a SL. She is practically gleeful at the prospect of having it out with Brandi. I have to say I felt embarrassed for her husband more who seemed truly repelled at Brandi's language. As did Mohammed and Martin, the Hair Twins from the 1970s. Martin especially looks like he is so over Brandi. As for the other stuff -- I just can't with Carlton rubbing herself against her MIL at Hustler. Though having seen her husband, I now 'get it.' He wants a dominatrix and doesn't care who knows it. BTW, who is looking after the kids Misty, Trixie and She-Ra when the 'nanny' is in the Play Room with Carlton. Regardless -- Carlton is out of place on this show. I feel like she should be on another show following Guns 'n Roses ex-groupies, but not RHoBH. Kyle's exclusive boutique looks like a strip mall TJ Maxx.

I wouldn't necessarily say so. BH had an ensemble where each woman used to contribute something specific to make up the whole. It worked well, I thought. It is only with the loss of TayShanna, Camille and even Catwoman Adrienne, along with Brandi's thirst and the inclusion of the two latest nonentities, that Lisa's position "above the fray" has really come to the fore.

Benefactor is perhaps the wrong word. I don't mean they support her financially, but Yolanda does support Brandi morally, invitex her around and is her friend. David Foster appears warm and friendly with her, too. I am not surprised at the way she talked about Lisa as Brandi has been hinting at turning against her, but I was surprised at her tone regarding Yolanda because Yo is her biggest supporter. I am sad at the disconnect between the women, too. The Lisa/Yol/Brandi friendship was my favourite and even the Lisa/Kyle dynamic was interesting to watch. It's just now these women are turning on each other for fame and a SL. Lisa could happily live without any of them and that's probably what pisses the others off the most.

I can see why they buried this episode of RHoBH two days before Christmas. What a snore! PLEASE do not tell me that Placecardgate is going to be the main SL driving the rest of this season. PLEASE. Because I just CANNOT bear to see that vile ho-bag Kyle sniffle about Yolanda not putting a heart on her place-card like she did on Lisa and Brandi's (and some guy named Thomas who was also at the party, but nobody singled him out!). For !@#$%^&*]'s sake. Grow the !@#$%^&*] up! And stop thinking that you are funny feeling up Lisa or eating that giant strawberry, because you are not. There is a reason your "acting" career is practically non-existent. Speaking of the Duchess, I just adore her glass fridge and taste in flowers and Grand Marnier-infused strawberries. But my Duchess is getting increasingly smug and [!@#$%^&*]-stirring. Also, can you imagine how dull some of Yo's dinner parties must get after a while? The food and surroundings are stunning, but then to sit for hours on the sofa to listen to King David belt out some of his Greatest Hits -- which nobody but he and Natalie Cole are allowed to sing? Bye. Times like this I wish TayShanna was around to get grumpy and start squawking at David. I wish Camille were around to throw exquisite shade. Heck, bring back Adrienne and bring on her druggy toyboy, Rod Stewart's son! At least there would be some real tension at this dinner party! So the dinner was to honor the Canadian Tenors -- who were obviously banished to the kitchen with the other servants until they were trotted out to perform? On their one evening off? Ouch. Carlton is trying so hard to be edgy. I really did not need to see her prison-like, windowless Adult playroom. The ball-and-gag thing was tacky, I can't think of anything less of a turn-on than to be choking on some plastic ball while somebody whips you. Carlton's hubby is probably hiding in mortification and ruing the day he ever agreed to this mess. Boyce is trying so hard to act and she just can'. "As long as I'm with my baby, I always have a good time!" What are you, 15? While I despise Brandi for bullying her, Boyce by herself is a like a Stepford Wife robot, only less interesting. Brandi is just awful. This woman has no respect for herself if she is allowing the cameras to portray her this way. Just so trashy and classless. And now throwing her last remaining benefactor Yolanda under the bus to Kyle? You really are stupid. Lisa is so over all them hoes. I don't blame her. I'd rather hang with Ken at a building site, too.

Next stop for Brandi: porn. Obviously. I miss TayShanna, too, TBH. I never outright hated that grifter to begin with. She really called it like she saw it last season. Her scene with Formerly Twenny-Five ThouZIND, Now Broke-Ass comes to mind, as does the episode when she refused to stop yapping at Yolanda's dinner party while King David was humping the piano But Andy seems to hate Shanna; he wouldn't even let her travel with the other ladies to Paris! Major snub.

Uh because she kissed Carlton and bitched out brainless Boyce? And got an attack of the racists? Yeah, I'm sure that appeals to a certain section of the audience. Whatever, loon. She needs to stop believing her own hype. I liked her so much before she got deluded.

OT: I am loving all the hot Yoncé sigs people have! RHoBH: This episode finally felt like the season is picking up some momentum. Although if this Palm Beach trip is the only trip for RHoBH, then woah. I expect more glamour than this self-catering weekend! Felt a bit bad for Kyle but at the same time, Kyle is both an actress (well, loosely) and a younger sibling, so she is adept at turning on the waterworks. And it got Yolanda and Lisa to soften, so it worked. That's why she got so pissed at Kim for making it All About Her. Doesn't she know it is All About Kyle?! Kyle finally had Lisa on her bed (no sexual allusion intended), they were going to have the heart-to-heart that Kyle has been longing for (and for a minute there I was getting flashbacks of the Lisa-Kyle friendship in season 1-2)... And then Peeing Kim stomps in and tries to start a fight with Lisa. Honey, pull your big-girl pants up, go flush that toilet and take a seat. Seriously, when Lisa shut the door on her peeing, that was AMAZING. Nobody has time for that mess! Still, is it wrong that I find Kim so entertaining sometimes? Like when Carlton said about wanting to take home a squirrel and Kim responding, totally seriously, "I have my purse." Carlton and Brandi were so obviously going to hook up if the cameras hadn't been there. Carlton took fright because she has to present some semblance of an image, even though she probably has an open marriage and the nannies aren't just there for the children. IMO DrunkBrandi wasn't all that drunk. I think Brandi can somewhat hold her liquor IRL, it's just when she mixes it with coke (not the drink) and uppers/downers that she gets really wasted. She knew what she was doing when she went after Kyle at dinner, and she certainly knew what she was doing shading Lisa with the "strategizing" comment. I do not for a second believe that Lisa is busy controlling everybody and forcing these women to badmouth the other women. How? Why? Is she paying them? Blackmailing them? Hypnotizing them?! Lisa is a wily social operator, sure, but masterminding entire hate campaigns against Adrienne and now Kyle? Please. She's not Dr. Evil, calling the shots from her secret island lair. She's a reality star. It was clear that Adrienne was the one briefing Radar Online about the other ladies, as the site later admitted, and as for Kyle's sanctified marriage, this is a SL that Bravo has been actively promoting as part the main story of the season. Since Kyle prides herself on being BFFs with Andy, she obviously signed off on this charade. She certainly talks about it enough in every episode.

Nene looks good with a short, sharp, punchy hairstyle, not the mid-length or long tresses which make her look budget. That picture ^^ makes her look like she got caught in a severe rainstorm.

That is sad because I love Yolanda but after reading this blog, Lisa will always be my #1 housewife. I think it is Brandi's coke exploits that must be troubling Lisa. I'm sure Empress L has seen it all (and maybe done a little) but she also seems like a responsible person. And I think she finally recognizes that Brandi, with two small kids, is irresponsible.

I am right there with you. My dissatisfaction with the franchise happened suddenly, right around when RHoV self-imploded and RHONJ becoming impossible to watch. RHoA bores me now, although I know I am pretty much alone in feeling that way. Honestly, I am clinging on for BH and NY here (since Miami looks like it won't be returning) and the decline in BH's quality is probably the hardest for me to bear.

I don't think Brandi was being mean with her "black folks can't swim" comment, just stupid. The last two seasons she was a refreshing presence, but this season she is trying WAY too hard to be controversial/in your face and it is too much. I actually felt a little sorry for Boyce with the harassment about going into the pool (who cares? Leave her alone) and the name thing. Her name is Boyce, people! Get it right! Why Lisa jumped in to defend Brandi for being a fucked-up drunkard, I will never know. I love Lisa but it was unnecessary to show her support in that way. A better way would have been to take Brandi aside, give her face a few short, sharp slaps and brought her back to the table. Because all that Brandi is doing is playing into the hands of Kyle and Kim who specialize in playing that victim card. It's so funny how everybody thinks Brandi and Carlton have the hottest bodies. Both look like Eastern European gymnasts with bad boob jobs but IMO Duchess Yolanda in her simple, white bathing suit looked the most stunning. Speaking of aesthetics, Kyle should never wear bell bottom jeans because they make her legs look squat. And that lady at the store was really going heavy on the "gurrrrrl, you look so thin!" stuff. Is she an employee of Vyle's? I see Kyle is back on the Let's Get Yolanda train. She is so desperate to turn Lisa against her. Of course Yolanda probably said something in passing and without really thinking about Lisa, and Kyle took it and blew it up into a bigger thing than it prob was. I don't doubt that Yolanda can bitch with the best of them, but to take Kyle, who she barely knew, aside to bitch about Lisa? Can't see it.

Y'all are reminding me just how underrated RHONY was towards the end of last season. St Barts was epic, and Aviva so spoiled and deluded. I'd be interested to see how Carole is this year. Last season she was great, but she lost me at Reunion with her snobby attitude. I am glad Luann is still around, despite everything. In fact, I am feeling so generous towards RHONY that I wouldn't even mind if Jill came back for a few episodes. Just so I can hate on her.

MARCH?!! I thought it would be January! I don't want to wait that long! I know what you mean about the normal HW stuff. It's crazy how sympathetic I was towards Kim this week after her horrible behavior towards Yolanda last episode. I truly believe that she regrets not having a normal childhood with HS and college. It is ironic that Kyle did not have as big a career as Kim had as a child actress and therefore had the chance to attend college but got knocked up instead. And Kathy had already met her future husband by 15, so... Boyce is a bust. Kathy Hilton seemed very comfortable in her own skin -- she didn't seem to be playing up to the cameras or trying to win over the audience or cause trouble just to get some screentime. Her comment about what Kim was wearing was entirely natural and organic. Portia is just adorable with her face full of chocolate. Most of the RH kids come across really well, at least in the franchises I watch. OC, BH, NJ, MI etc. NJ's Milania needs to be made a fulltime HW IMO. We don't see the NY kids all that much anymore, unfortunately.

That RHoNY trailer was way too short!

I was dreading watching this week's RHoBH after last week's quacking borefest but, even though it was filler and most of the ladies were in their own little stories, I enjoyed it! Even though I hate the Richards sisters and think Parasite Hilton is a leaky sore on the groin of humanity, I would not be against Kathy Hilton becoming a HW and dispensing leopard-clad fashion advice. Despite it all, I think she feels very protective of Kim, unlike Kyle who is too busy telling us how much she wants to protect her sister to really do anything meaningful. Carlton with the cat, Kyle's dog -- yeah, total filler but I like the BH pets. Yolanda with her mom and brother, and with David Foster at the Hollywood Walk of Fame -- gosh, I still love this lady. LOL at Carlton's kids' godfather being Slash from Guns & Roses! Why am I not surprised? After seeing Yolanda's amazing infinity pool and flawless interiors, Brandi's empty, rented, poop-filled condo is a let-down. Ken is Up there as one of the best husbands in this franchise. I love how he defends Mauricio and feels that in his heart, he'd never cheat. Lisa's insistence that "why just don't know" in the face of her husband's declaration makes me just about 99% certain that the Lisa the Bitch SL is totally production-driven and that she is in on it. Which is fine. Boyce is still the world's dullest fembot. ^^ Brandi's Christmas plea -- Jesus. Thirsty much? She's so needy. Who was it who said "Never complain, never explain" ? If she's going to bitch somebody out, Brandi needs to grow a pair and stand by her opinion. I've never, ever seen Lisa or Camille hurriedly put together a vid in order to explain their actions. This reeks of of a lack of accountability more befitting VictimKyle.

Wow. I found it hard to get through this last episode of RHoBH (a first for me!) but hey, different strokes for different folks! IA with you that Boyce's attempt to make something happen with StrayHairgate was hilarious (unintentionally so, which makes it even more funny) but I still find her a Bore. So many diva Miss PRs, Miss Mexicos, heck, Miss Venezuelas are the most crazy divas of them all -- but Boyce and her budget beauty pageant that nobody has ever heard of was the best they could do? She makes me miss Camille all the more and even shed a little tear for TayShana and Faye. I truly truly truly hope BH is back and more fun than ever, but I am nervous about where this season is heading. I don't want it to go the NJ Season 4 route. I just do not have the patience for that mess anymore, and I don't think I am the only one. Bravo better be careful because NJ might be slowly killing the entire franchise. NY's reboot was super tricky as it changed the entire dynamic of the show. However, I warmed to the reboot and like the additions after the toxic previous seasons. Honestly, NY was never quite right after Bethenny departed and it was time to start from near-scratch again. I don't know what has happened since then because we haven't seen them in forEVER, but I miss my NY ladies.

Boyce is terrifyingly bland and a huge bust. Carlton is not comfortable in this shitshow and knows it. Time to cut their losses and BEG Camille Donatucci to return. Bring Faye and Shana back as friends. Hell, even Marissa would lighten the mood. Otherwise BH is going downhill fast.

Did I just lose an hour of my life watching RHoBH?! Let me recap for y'all so some of you don't have to: Brandi and Carlton are shopping for trashy lingerie (yes, there is a difference between sexy and trashy lingerie). Brandi is purring about Carlton has a hot sexy bod. I guess she's hoping to get Carlton to either make out with her or cast a spell on LeAnn/Kyle/Lisa. Kim is doing circus stuff. Well, the poor girl has to do something while Kingsley is gnawing through her rented furniture. I want to hate on Kim's endearing awkwardness but I can't. Her petrified smile in that "KIM" hand-on-hip opening shot makes me LOL. Kyle and Mauricio in Operation SaveOurImage involves lunch with boring Joyce and her husband Augustus Gloop [© Charlie and the Chocolate Factory]. Mauricio is slurring "I'll take a lie dee-tec-tuh test with any of dose fuckin women" re: the infidelity rumors. Who cares, More-REESE [© Drunken Kim]? Nobody thinks you felt up Lisa! Kyle regales us with her scintillating humor in the VT. "If Kim's going to do this (Cirque party mess), let's do this right and put one of the girl's in a cage with a lion." Then she puts on her best [!@#$%^&*]-eating gummy grin. Cue crickets and the sound of bales of hay blowing through a ghost town. Luckily for Kyle, Boyce (bore + Joyce) has an even worse sense of humor than Vyle. "I'm GOOD at JUGGLING BALLS!!! Right, HONEY?!!!" Jesus. Karent Sierra she ain't. Not surprisingly, Kyle adores this sycophant who will never overshadow her except in terms of hair products. Yolanda's walk-in closet is the stuff dreams are made of. Her two girls are lovely, too. Meanwhile, Ken gives Lisa a gorgeous golden retriever puppy! Gah! He is cute and fluffy! Lisa is going to call him Rumpy Pumpy. It's circus day. Yolanda shows up clad in head-to-toe green nylon. Unbelievably, she still looks amazing. Kim starts a big speech about Building Trust between the ladies (Lisa: "This isn't going to work with this crowd") and Supporting Each Other and Putting Issues Behind Them. Yolanda innocuously says "Let's just have fun. We're all grown women, so let's go for it" and Kim immediately snaps "YO-Landa! You're being rude!" Kyle looks on, smiling smugly. So this isn't a team-bonding exercise at all, this is another Richards Sisters' entrapment to make Yolanda look bad again. So now it's a big issue and Brandi and Kyle use this moment to passive-aggressively mean-girl each other. Kyle is still boohooing about the EVIL LIES Brandi spread in the previous episode, and Brandi does damage control by saying she was just giving Kyle a 'head's up.' Uh huh, Brandi. Then Brandi starts boohooing about the paps chasing her with the kids and how Kyle may have called her a bully because of what she said to Kyle. I am exhausted and bored just watching this, and it drags on for [!@#$%^&*] EVER. Lisa, who has remained quiet throughout, pipes up about how maybe Kyle should tweet that she didn't call Brandi a bully (sigh...) and Kyle goes into full Victim Mode. I wish I cared enough to shed a little tear for poor, rich Kyle. Boyce decides to make a stab at relevancy by going to speak to Lisa about Something Very Important. She drags her to one side, touches her hair repeatedly and tells Lisa she was Very Hurt by the fact that Lisa brushed her hand away when Boyce tried to fix a stray hair on Lisa's head last episode. However, Boyce is NOT a gossip and that's why she wanted to bitch Lisa out to her face! Lisa and says "We've got major issues going on over there. This isn't one of them, so don't try and create one." Boyce is left yapping after Lisa walks away, bored. In other news, Brandi's extensions look horrendous in her VT.

Well then those people were crazy! LOL I mean, everybody can like or dislike who they want, especially on a RH show. But death threats? For doing Playboy in the 90s? It was a some time after Nicole's death, too, it wasn't like she booked Playboy the week after. I just enjoyed what Faye brought to the table (pot-stirring wise) even though she is Vyle's lackey. Also I loved her speaking voice!